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Post by kolchak92 on Jun 29, 2022 13:33:44 GMT
people refer it to as being a slasher movie? Two people get knifed in it, but it really bears no resemblance to what became the slasher sub-genre, and it feels like something of an insult to label it as such. Now Psycho III on the other hand is a different story.
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Post by James on Jun 29, 2022 13:48:18 GMT
It's more of a proto-slasher, but with only two deaths and it being more of a prestigious film with more focus on suspense and mystery would seem like labelling it as a slasher feels wrong. Also, the stereotypical tropes hadn't been invented or established yet (though you could argue Marion Crane being shady and getting undressed in the shower was what started things like that).
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Post by politicidal on Jun 29, 2022 13:49:49 GMT
I’d categorize it more of a psychological horror than a slasher.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2022 13:59:58 GMT
These days I see it classified as a suspense movie.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 29, 2022 14:07:09 GMT
No.
I don't completely agree, but it doesn't bother me.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 29, 2022 15:10:03 GMT
No, because I read it as origin of the slasher genre, yet origins aren't necessarily full bore.
Besides, if that tag gets more ppl to see it, that's good. As gateway to more sophisticated horror, it's more than earned its keep as a classic.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 29, 2022 17:48:01 GMT
I actually never heard of anyone call it a slasher film.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 29, 2022 18:51:33 GMT
I think finding it insulting to call it a slasher says more about you than Psycho. It helped lay the groundwork for the genre, which even academics agree on - I'm reading "Men, Women and Chainsaws" by Carol Glover which is basically the slasher movie bible and she says the same thing. It's no accident that Halloween, the quintessential slasher that kicked off the boom is the 80s, had numerous references to Psycho, including character names and the casting of Jamie Lee.
Of course, it's not a "perfect" slasher movie. The characters are adults (though not all slashers focus on teens) and there's only a couple deaths (though others do have small bodycounts). But you still have a deranged killer with a traumatic past that dresses up and kills scantily clad women for sexual reasons. In Psycho, it's only one (onscreen at least, it's implied he's killed others), but upping the ante is how all cinema works. The missing pieces (creepy mask, chase scenes, teens) were filled in when Texas Chain Saw and Black Christmas came along, then it was off to the races for John Carpenter to take all these elements and make Halloween.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 29, 2022 20:23:38 GMT
I actually like the debate about Psycho being a slasher movie.
I consider a slasher movie to generally be a B-movie that involves a group of young people being killed off one by one. Psycho doesn't fit this criteria.
Giallo movies are a bit different from American slasher movies. These focus more on the mystery aspect of who the killer is and are generally more intelligent and artistic. The first true slasher movie is Black Christmas and you can see the Giallo inspiration more clearly with this movie.
Psycho isn't a slasher movie imo, but it set the groundwork for both Giallo and American slasher movies.
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Post by 博:Dr.BLΔD€:锯 on Jun 29, 2022 20:27:37 GMT
I don't give a monkeys what anyone labels anything.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 30, 2022 3:41:41 GMT
It might have been called that. In 1960.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Jun 30, 2022 3:59:15 GMT
Doesn’t bother me
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Post by mgmarshall on Jun 30, 2022 4:17:25 GMT
I think the influence on stuff like the giallo genre and guys like Brian de Palma and Richard Franklin are very clear. It's definitely a progenitor. But, hell, I'd argue the movies William Castle was doing like Homicidal and Strait-Jacket are much closer to what you'd consider a modern slasher.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 30, 2022 17:37:15 GMT
Bother ?
No ... it just seems to me to be a rather ludicrous and bizarre observation ... rather like the whole "Die Hard = a Christmas Movie " and "Rached was just a nurse doin' her job" debate cycles.
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