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Post by Skaathar on Oct 3, 2022 18:01:51 GMT
I wonder if this show and it’s reception factored into Feige’s decision to turn Armor Wars into a movie. There’s no way he can be satisfied with the way some of these shows are turning out. I hope so. I know She-Hulk has its fans but the low audience score is quite telling. I'm hoping that Feige cares enough that he doesn't just brush off the low audience ratings as "review bombing" and that he actually gets the feedback from this show and makes sure not to make the same mistake in the future. My biggest worry is that the MCU, Disney and Feige have taken their success for granted so much that they no longer care about quality control. And so far the products of Phase 4 seem to point in that direction.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2022 18:22:38 GMT
I wonder if this show and it’s reception factored into Feige’s decision to turn Armor Wars into a movie. There’s no way he can be satisfied with the way some of these shows are turning out. I hope so. I know She-Hulk has its fans but the low audience score is quite telling. I'm hoping that Feige cares enough that he doesn't just brush off the low audience ratings as "review bombing" and that he actually gets the feedback from this show and makes sure not to make the same mistake in the future. My biggest worry is that the MCU, Disney and Feige have taken their success for granted so much that they no longer care about quality control. And so far the products of Phase 4 seem to point in that direction. I hope so too. The last three Marvel products were Thor L&T, Ms Marvel and She Hulk. That’s the worst 3 in a row they’ve ever had.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2022 3:47:05 GMT
A series so bad it was immediately classified as non-canon. To be fair, the Inhumans actually has far better writing than She-Hulk (and Ms. Marvel for that matter). She-Hulk has better actors and a far larger budget which makes it feel more polished, but had the Inhumans been released as part of the D+ MCU shows (with a proper MCU budget) I'm pretty sure it would rank somewhere in the middle of the other D+ shows. I think in retrospect I might consider She-Hulk to be a bigger disappointment than Inhumans, because unlike the Inhumans more time and money was put into it, and it was designed to be very in-tune with the Marvel Cinematic Universe with plans to set-up later events and introduce newer characters that are intended to be regulars going forward. Inhumans was dropped from its intended phase line-up, made into a TV series, rushed into production, given too small a budget, and had no good faith going for its months and days leading to premiere, and to make matters worse the cost of using IMAX cameras and showing the pilot in theatres did no one any favors. Inhumans could have only hoped to be seen at best, as average, and it barely got to there. I think it's pretty telling that the one aspect people liked enough was Anson Mount as Black Bolt, and they brought him back as the character, albeit a more comic accurate variant in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Still, I am not sure if comparing the writing is that fair. Inhumans, in the back of the filmmakers' minds, was hoped to be something of a cosmic Game of Thrones, while She-Hulk is supposed to play out like a David E. Kelley law comedy with a superhero twist. Inhumans failed to be what it was trying to get at, She-Hulk has all the right ingredients for what it's trying to do accomplish but agenda and clear lack of direction for Phase Four of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is working against it very much. I disagree regarding Ms. Marvel, for me personally it was a very good to just fine in terms of quality. Its intention was clearly to be a teenage superhero dramady in vein of John Hughes movies and for the most part it delivered for me, and I think the style the directors behind the first and last episodes were fresh and creative for the universe, the likes of which we are not generally used to but worked well for its storytelling.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 5, 2022 16:57:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2022 17:02:02 GMT
The Marvel tv shows are just like the Star Wars tv shows now. They stick in these really big fanservice moments to get people hyped, but the shows they are centered around are mediocre filler. That DD scene looks awesome, but what’s the point if it’s just random coolness in a terrible series.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 5, 2022 18:55:25 GMT
Guys...
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 6, 2022 12:20:24 GMT
This is the first episode of She-Hulk that I've enjoyed since the series started. Loved the nod to the hallway fight scenes from the Netflix Daredevil series.
I will not be surprised if this episode was a bit controversial for hardcore fans of the Daredevil Netflix series considering this episode let Matt be a little more comedic than usual.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2022 18:50:33 GMT
So does She Hulk have superhero sex with Daredevil?
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Post by Marv on Oct 6, 2022 18:58:01 GMT
This is the first episode of She-Hulk that I've enjoyed since the series started. Loved the nod to the hallway fight scenes from the Netflix Daredevil series. I will not be surprised if this episode was a bit controversial for hardcore fans of the Daredevil Netflix series considering this episode let Matt be a little mode comedic than usual. There will definitely be fans who will hate this Daredevil. I honestly didn't find him all that different. A few more on the nose quips and less serious but not Thor levels of buffoonery. Thinking about it now tho but including DD here is a big risk. A large vibe of She Hulk is negative and the first sample size for the MCU's DD character is in this show. Many fans will dislike this version and it could very well impact potential viewers for the upcoming Daredevil tv show. From what I've seen most people like to watch shows they hate regardless...but still.
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Post by Marv on Oct 6, 2022 18:58:33 GMT
So does She Hulk have superhero sex with Daredevil? Jen does. Can't confirm whether She Hulk smashed or not.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 6, 2022 18:59:33 GMT
So does She Hulk have superhero sex with Daredevil? We don't get a sex scene, unfortunately, but yeah She-Hulk and Daredevil bang.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 6, 2022 19:02:40 GMT
It was cool too to see Daredevil more acrobatic. A lot of his moves reminded me of the stuff you would see him do in an Daredevil comic.
Hopefully they bring that over to Born Again.
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Post by havenless on Oct 7, 2022 2:22:55 GMT
It was cool too to see Daredevil more acrobatic. A lot of his moves reminded me of the stuff you would see him do in an Daredevil comic. Hopefully they bring that over to Born Again. I also like that they didn’t go “angry face” again with his mask like he, Batman, etc always get. Doesn’t fit his character IMO
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Post by havenless on Oct 7, 2022 2:39:13 GMT
This is the first episode of She-Hulk that I've enjoyed since the series started. Loved the nod to the hallway fight scenes from the Netflix Daredevil series. I will not be surprised if this episode was a bit controversial for hardcore fans of the Daredevil Netflix series considering this episode let Matt be a little more comedic than usual. I thought it also had some of the best CGI so far. In the beginning I thought maybe getting 2 actresses and deep faking would have been the best course, but this is starting to look really good
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 7, 2022 15:59:17 GMT
Good episode, great to see the MCU version of DD. Surprised nobody has mentioned the casual throwaway line about the Sokovia Accords being repealed. I'm glad because it opens up more storytelling opportunities, but it's weird that they were such a big deal in the MCU and they simply get thrown out in a random episode of a comedic tv show.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 7, 2022 17:48:49 GMT
Good episode, great to see the MCU version of DD. Surprised nobody has mentioned the casual throwaway line about the Sokovia Accords being repealed. I'm glad because it opens up more storytelling opportunities, but it's weird that they were such a big deal in the MCU and they simply get thrown out in a random episode of a comedic tv show. I actually thought that was one of the weaker parts of this episode. IIRC, the Sokovia accords specifically applied only to the Avengers. They didn't cover every single masked vigilante out there. As far as I know, masked vigilantes have never been exactly legal in the MCU universe, same way they're not exactly legal in real life. So masked vigilantes wouldn't be protected by law from having their secret identities be revealed in a court of law, Sokovia Accords or no. I actually enjoyed this episode quite a bit. But the worst part was still the courtroom scene. Too much dumb stuff happening. The rest of the episode was pretty much what I wanted from a She-Hulk show... just wish we got more episodes like this.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 7, 2022 18:42:18 GMT
Good episode, great to see the MCU version of DD. Surprised nobody has mentioned the casual throwaway line about the Sokovia Accords being repealed. I'm glad because it opens up more storytelling opportunities, but it's weird that they were such a big deal in the MCU and they simply get thrown out in a random episode of a comedic tv show. I actually thought that was one of the weaker parts of this episode. IIRC, the Sokovia accords specifically applied only to the Avengers. They didn't cover every single masked vigilante out there. As far as I know, masked vigilantes have never been exactly legal in the MCU universe, same way they're not exactly legal in real life. So masked vigilantes wouldn't be protected by law from having their secret identities be revealed in a court of law, Sokovia Accords or no. I actually enjoyed this episode quite a bit. But the worst part was still the courtroom scene. Too much dumb stuff happening. The rest of the episode was pretty much what I wanted from a She-Hulk show... just wish we got more episodes like this. I assumed it covered all heroes, we only saw the part where the Avengers had to sign. I think they talked about it a little at the beginning of TFATWS as well as WandaVision.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 7, 2022 19:47:07 GMT
I actually thought that was one of the weaker parts of this episode. IIRC, the Sokovia accords specifically applied only to the Avengers. They didn't cover every single masked vigilante out there. As far as I know, masked vigilantes have never been exactly legal in the MCU universe, same way they're not exactly legal in real life. So masked vigilantes wouldn't be protected by law from having their secret identities be revealed in a court of law, Sokovia Accords or no. I actually enjoyed this episode quite a bit. But the worst part was still the courtroom scene. Too much dumb stuff happening. The rest of the episode was pretty much what I wanted from a She-Hulk show... just wish we got more episodes like this. I assumed it covered all heroes, we only saw the part where the Avengers had to sign. I think they talked about it a little at the beginning of TFATWS as well as WandaVision. Pretty sure it was limited only to the Avengers. It basically made the Avengers into the strike force of the UN. Like Cap said, the UN would then be able to tell them where to go and not to go, what to do and not to do. General Ross clarified that if someone didn't wish to sign it, then they can retire (presumably from being an Avenger). And since neither Daredevil, She-Hulk nor Frogman (or whatever his name is) were ever part of the Avengers, I don't know how the Sokovia accords would have affected them one way or another. Maybe it was opened up to all heroes but only if they joined up with the Avengers. Otherwise they'd just be vigilantes, punishable by law for whatever infractions they occur.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 7, 2022 19:54:35 GMT
I assumed it covered all heroes, we only saw the part where the Avengers had to sign. I think they talked about it a little at the beginning of TFATWS as well as WandaVision. Pretty sure it was limited only to the Avengers. It basically made the Avengers into the strike force of the UN. Like Cap said, the UN would then be able to tell them where to go and not to go, what to do and not to do. General Ross clarified that if someone didn't wish to sign it, then they can retire (presumably from being an Avenger). And since neither Daredevil, She-Hulk nor Frogman (or whatever his name is) were ever part of the Avengers, I don't know how the Sokovia accords would have affected them one way or another. Maybe it was opened up to all heroes but only if they joined up with the Avengers. Otherwise they'd just be vigilantes, punishable by law for whatever infractions they occur. Just looked it up, it covers all enhanced individuals. Makes more sense this way, why make an international law that only covers a small group of individuals, as opposed to a blanket law for everyone? Anyway it doesn't matter, since it's gone now.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 7, 2022 21:18:33 GMT
I actually wonder if the new Captain America movie will cover that accords repeal?
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