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Post by eyelikefilms on Sept 1, 2022 4:24:53 GMT
Mr Pitt speaks with a bit of an unusual accent. What is it? Upper class NYC? British? German? Can't tell.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 4:32:43 GMT
It’s only German when he seeks to annex Poland Creek bottled water.
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Post by eyelikefilms on Sept 1, 2022 8:03:02 GMT
Thank you, priceless scene. But I dont mean that. Your can hear it best in 0:50et seqq. youtu.be/CzZuonXghOQMeanwhile found out that Ian Abercrombie was born in Essex, England. So I think it's his English "uppa class prronounciation". No special NYC accent.And: which American would say "forbad us"? In the us you say "he forbid." Agree? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 17:18:50 GMT
Thank you, priceless scene. But I dont mean that. Your can hear it best in 0:50et seqq. youtu.be/CzZuonXghOQMeanwhile found out that Ian Abercrombie was born in Essex, England. So I think it's his English "uppa class prronounciation". No special NYC accent.And: which American would say "forbad us"? In the us you say "he forbid." Agree? Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s a slight English accent, of someone from England who has lived here most his life. I haven’t seen the actor in many things but I’m pretty sure it’s his real accent.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 1, 2022 18:41:46 GMT
Thank you, priceless scene. But I dont mean that. Your can hear it best in 0:50et seqq. youtu.be/CzZuonXghOQMeanwhile found out that Ian Abercrombie was born in Essex, England. So I think it's his English "uppa class prronounciation". No special NYC accent.And: which American would say "forbad us"? In the us you say "he forbid." Agree? Totally tangential, but as far as I know forbade is the correct past tense for forbid in both English and American speech. That said, I don’t hear it much at all.
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Post by eyelikefilms on Sept 1, 2022 18:53:00 GMT
Ok, that being so I guess my initial impression was right: British. Although it is interesting that there seems to be a N.Y. upper class accent that is pretty close to the roots in Britannia.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 1, 2022 19:55:49 GMT
Ok, that being so I guess my initial impression was right: British. Although it is interesting that there seems to be a N.Y. upper class accent that is pretty close to the roots in Britannia. Thanks to both of you! Oh, I didn’t do anything, but thanks for the thanks!  As for an upper-class U.S. accent that sounds vaguely English (by which I mean “has aspects of Received Pronunciation”), listen to New Yorker Franklin D. Roosevelt’s accent. Roosevelt’s is particular, but in general what he’s speaking gets called “Mid-Atlantic” or “Transatlantic” English. Elite prep schools in New York and New England taught the accent as “correct” English, which is why wealthier Americans spoke it. (People now make fun of the accent, saying it’s “fake,” but I still very much like the sound of it.) You can hear it from many ’30s and ’40s actors—Katharine Hepburn and Orson Welles, to name two*—because of both the prep schools and the theatrical training. And you can hear lots of parodies, notably Jim Backus’s Thurston Howell III in Gilligan’s Island (to be precise, Backus was parodying Boston Brahmin speech, which sounded even more RP-esque than, say, Roosevelt’s accent). The late Christopher Plummer, who was Canadian, had an extremely similar accent (Wikipedia distinguishes Transatlantic American from what it calls “ Canadian Dainty,” but I honestly can’t hear a difference). Abercrombie’s accent is somewhat different: He was born in England and moved to the States at 17, so that was too late for his accent to change much (i.e., intentionally change much). Living in the U.S., though, he probably adopted some American pronunciations and phrases. But his “transatlantic” accent, like Cary Grant’s (whose accent was unique), is probably natural rather than acquired. *Hepburn, Welles—and my avatar, John Barrymore! (And his siblings.) Unforgivable of me to forget him… 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 22:02:20 GMT
Ok, that being so I guess my initial impression was right: British. Although it is interesting that there seems to be a N.Y. upper class accent that is pretty close to the roots in Britannia. Thanks to both of you! Oh, I didn’t do anything, but thanks for the thanks! As for an upper-class U.S. accent that sounds vaguely English (by which I mean “has aspects of Received Pronunciation”), listen to New Yorker Franklin D. Roosevelt’s accent. Roosevelt’s is particular, but in general what he’s speaking gets called “Mid-Atlantic” or “Transatlantic” English. Elite prep schools in New York and New England taught the accent as “correct” English, which is why wealthier Americans spoke it. (People now make fun of the accent, saying it’s “fake,” but I still very much like the sound of it.) You can hear it from many ’30s and ’40s actors—Katharine Hepburn and Orson Welles, to name two*—because of both the prep schools and the theatrical training. And you can hear lots of parodies, notably Jim Backus’s Thurston Howell III in Gilligan’s Island (to be precise, Backus was parodying Boston Brahmin speech, which sounded even more RP-esque than, say, Roosevelt’s accent). The late Christopher Plummer, who was Canadian, had an extremely similar accent (Wikipedia distinguishes Transatlantic American from what it calls “ Canadian Dainty,” but I honestly can’t hear a difference). Abercrombie’s accent is somewhat different: He was born in England and moved to the States at 17, so that was too late for his accent to change much (i.e., intentionally change much). Living in the U.S., though, he probably adopted some American pronunciations and phrases. But his “transatlantic” accent, like Cary Grant’s (whose accent was unique), is probably natural rather than acquired. *Hepburn, Welles—and my avatar, John Barrymore! (And his siblings.) Unforgivable of me to forget him… I was just about to mention Mid-Atlantic accents, which is (probably) the origin of the stereotype of high society folks speaking with English accents. I love this accent as well. Sometimes I say things in it for no particular reason. It’s fun. 
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 1, 2022 22:05:58 GMT
Oh, I didn’t do anything, but thanks for the thanks! As for an upper-class U.S. accent that sounds vaguely English (by which I mean “has aspects of Received Pronunciation”), listen to New Yorker Franklin D. Roosevelt’s accent. Roosevelt’s is particular, but in general what he’s speaking gets called “Mid-Atlantic” or “Transatlantic” English. Elite prep schools in New York and New England taught the accent as “correct” English, which is why wealthier Americans spoke it. (People now make fun of the accent, saying it’s “fake,” but I still very much like the sound of it.) You can hear it from many ’30s and ’40s actors—Katharine Hepburn and Orson Welles, to name two*—because of both the prep schools and the theatrical training. And you can hear lots of parodies, notably Jim Backus’s Thurston Howell III in Gilligan’s Island (to be precise, Backus was parodying Boston Brahmin speech, which sounded even more RP-esque than, say, Roosevelt’s accent). The late Christopher Plummer, who was Canadian, had an extremely similar accent (Wikipedia distinguishes Transatlantic American from what it calls “ Canadian Dainty,” but I honestly can’t hear a difference). Abercrombie’s accent is somewhat different: He was born in England and moved to the States at 17, so that was too late for his accent to change much (i.e., intentionally change much). Living in the U.S., though, he probably adopted some American pronunciations and phrases. But his “transatlantic” accent, like Cary Grant’s (whose accent was unique), is probably natural rather than acquired. *Hepburn, Welles—and my avatar, John Barrymore! (And his siblings.) Unforgivable of me to forget him… I was just about to mention Mid-Atlantic accents, which is (probably) the origin of the stereotype of high society folks speaking with English accents. I love this accent as well. Sometimes I say things in it for no particular reason. It’s fun. You, I, Niles, and Sideshow Bob Frasier should form a club! The High, Exclusive, Mighty, and Allusive Muck-a-Mucks of the Mid-Atlantic!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 22:07:20 GMT
I was just about to mention Mid-Atlantic accents, which is (probably) the origin of the stereotype of high society folks speaking with English accents. I love this accent as well. Sometimes I say things in it for no particular reason. It’s fun. You, I, Niles, and Sideshow Bob Frasier should form a club! The High, Exclusive, Mighty, and Allusive Muck-a-Mucks of the Mid-Atlantic! I say! My good man that’s a real crackerjack idea!
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Post by eyelikefilms on Sept 1, 2022 23:58:53 GMT
Good luck, old sports!
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Post by frogarama on Oct 6, 2022 7:34:17 GMT
No=one would ever accuse anyone from Essex of being upper class.
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