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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 23:03:01 GMT
Having just watched L&T a second time I have to say The Dark World, while very flawed, is actually the better movie.
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Post by James on Sept 27, 2022 23:22:42 GMT
Love and Thunder
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Post by Marv on Sept 28, 2022 3:01:06 GMT
I like both…edge to Love and Thunder for now.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 28, 2022 17:08:50 GMT
TDW wasn't great but you could see it was at least trying to be good. And to be honest, the first 2/3 of that movie was fairly decent.
In comparison, L&T felt like it was intentionally sabotaging itself.
TDW was a mediocre movie. L&T was an expensive SNL skit.
So yeah, TDW for me as it at least didn't make me want to throw my popcorn at the screen.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 29, 2022 1:21:07 GMT
If you edit out Darcy, i would give it to Thor The Dark World. But Darcy and that god awful dark elf villain really brought that film down for me.
Thor Love and Thunder wasn't amazing, but Bale performance at least made it more tolerable.
Plus in Thor Love and Thunder a lot of the actors felt like they didn't want to be there. This is of course true for Natalie Portman.
At least with Love and Thunder Natalie seemed like she was enjoying herself this time.
But overall i dislike both Thor The Dark World and Love and Thunder. Both films wasted a villain that should have been more and both films had forced cringed humor.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 29, 2022 4:02:05 GMT
At least with Love and Thunder Natalie seemed like she was enjoying herself this time. That actually took me out of it a bit. I was expecting a heroic arc for her into Thor 2.0. Not just encountering her on a random battlefield out of the blue, making wisecracks about things with Thor. At least Dark World felt more concise. L&T is needless. Even Zeus (g'damn f'n Zeus!) was a joke.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 2, 2022 0:36:12 GMT
Love and Thunder. It's more visually interesting and the villain's much better. Chris Hemsworth and Natalie Portman work off each other far better as well. The humor is hit-or-miss but it didn't annoy me as much as I thought it would.
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Post by Cat on Oct 3, 2022 23:33:39 GMT
Probably Love and Thunder for the sheer utilization of Natalie Portman, who I've thought was underused all this time. There were times where I even felt she was acting on autopilot in at least the 2nd Thor, which she still did well so that's saying something. She's a really good actress, but I also get the feeling that she puts out for material she respects, and it was never really clear to me that she respects the material. Jane Foster was kinda one-dimensional in phase one and two, so I get it. L&T changed that, and not just with her being a new Thor, but how it connected to her cancer. I think that's something Natalie Portman can sink her teeth into as an actress. Otherwise I think she's just like Christian Bale. She'll show up for the check and do a good job but once someone yells cut, she's bored.
Also I never got into the TDW is lower tier MCU bit. The first 3 phases hit a high batting average and it did it together, so even the lesser of them were still good movies. TDW has a recurring low rank compared to other MCU and I get that, but I'd rather watch TDW than How Green was my Valley.
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Post by Marv on Oct 5, 2022 5:35:53 GMT
The Dark World gets a bad rap. I think it’s largely due to it having a boring villain…but that can be said about a lot of phase 1 and 2 mcu films.
I still prefer LaT at the moment but Dark World is an entertaining watch.
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Post by merh on Oct 6, 2022 23:55:55 GMT
I love the subtle character moments in Dark world.
Like on the skiff they define both their natures.
Satisfaction is not in Loki's nature
Surrender is not in Thor's
Which is why Endgame socks.
That isn't Thor.
It's the directors needing to have Tony have his big moment so they needed to take Thor out of the running for the glove so they turned him into Volstag
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Post by Surly on Oct 12, 2022 2:13:00 GMT
Having just watched L&T a second time I have to say The Dark World, while very flawed, is actually the better movie. Finally got around to seeing Love and Thunder. I have to say I agree with you. While the big action scenes and heroic moments in L&T may have been better than DW, L&T’s humor is mostly miss rather than hit. Too many jokes felt like an inside joke that the writer and/or director was having with himself. And it wasn’t really funny to anyone else but him. It reminded me of some of the cringy humor Rian Johnson put into The Last Jedi. And some of the filler (conversation) dialogue was bad. It just sounded like pointless rambling. What people would say to each other because they don’t know what to say and they would rather say anything than stand there in awkward silence. There were times I wished they would have. And that’s really bad when you have a moment when you would prefer awkward silence because the dialogue is so bad! The villain was good and Bale gave a good performance. The plot was basic, nothing special but good enough. Too bad that almost everything else about this movie was so horrible that I wanted to edit it all out and just watch the fight scenes. One of the worst MCU movies in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 3:36:05 GMT
Having just watched L&T a second time I have to say The Dark World, while very flawed, is actually the better movie. Finally got around to seeing Love and Thunder. I have to say I agree with you. While the big action scenes and heroic moments in L&T may have been better than DW, L&T’s humor is mostly miss rather than hit. Too many jokes felt like an inside joke that the writer and/or director was having with himself. And it wasn’t really funny to anyone else but him. It reminded me of some of the cringy humor Rian Johnson put into The Last Jedi. And some of the filler (conversation) dialogue was bad. It just sounded like pointless rambling. What people would say to each other because they don’t know what to say and they would rather say anything than stand there in awkward silence. There were times I wished they would have. And that’s really bad when you have a moment when you would prefer awkward silence because the dialogue is so bad! The villain was good and Bale gave a good performance. The plot was basic, nothing special but good enough. Too bad that almost everything else about this movie was so horrible that I wanted to edit it all out and just watch the fight scenes. One of the worst MCU movies in my opinion. I definitely agree with all of this. I’ll also add that the green screen was far worse and more excessive here than previous Marvel flicks. I noticed this quite a bit watching at home. The movie just looks claustrophobic and cheap- like one of those Disney Plus tv shows.
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Post by Surly on Oct 12, 2022 4:57:18 GMT
Finally got around to seeing Love and Thunder. I have to say I agree with you. While the big action scenes and heroic moments in L&T may have been better than DW, L&T’s humor is mostly miss rather than hit. Too many jokes felt like an inside joke that the writer and/or director was having with himself. And it wasn’t really funny to anyone else but him. It reminded me of some of the cringy humor Rian Johnson put into The Last Jedi. And some of the filler (conversation) dialogue was bad. It just sounded like pointless rambling. What people would say to each other because they don’t know what to say and they would rather say anything than stand there in awkward silence. There were times I wished they would have. And that’s really bad when you have a moment when you would prefer awkward silence because the dialogue is so bad! The villain was good and Bale gave a good performance. The plot was basic, nothing special but good enough. Too bad that almost everything else about this movie was so horrible that I wanted to edit it all out and just watch the fight scenes. One of the worst MCU movies in my opinion. I definitely agree with all of this. I’ll also add that the green screen was far worse and more excessive here than previous Marvel flicks. I noticed this quite a bit watching at home. The movie just looks claustrophobic and cheap- like one of those Disney Plus tv shows. Yeah. Why did they go backwards with the quality of the special effects?
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