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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Sept 28, 2022 18:58:46 GMT
It's simple.
In the main X-Men Movie Timeline (all 7 movies), Logan is alive and well in 2023, and he got white streaks in his hair.
'Deadpool 3' should be set in 2024. If Logan shows up, without white streaks, it's a further proof that it's an alternate universe.
The 2017 "Logan" movie is a third alternate universe, for various reasons:
1- "The New Mutants" is set in the mainstream X-Men universe. In the movie, Transigen-Alkali doesn't exist, Essex Corporation is definitely confirmed as the organization behind the Weapon X Program, and footage from "Logan" is rearranged to back-up a different event.
2- At the end of "Dark Phoenix" (1992), mutants are no more seen in a "friendly" way. I doubt that humans would issue comic books about them in the 2000s/2010s or so. Also, Old Man Logan seems to imply that "fantastic/fantasy adventures" (like events depicted in 'Apocalypse', 'Dark Phoenix' and so on) did not occur at all.
3- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the Weapon X Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse"; indeed he only slaughtered the soldiers.
4- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse". The Weapon X Facility was owned by the Essex Corporation.
5- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet had been already used anyway, and it wasn't available anymore anywhere.
6- There were mutant children at the school in the positive ending of DOFP (2023). This means that mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe. You can also spot Nate Grey among the children.
7- In DOFP, Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his long time remorse. That said, I doubt that Phoenix wouldn't be able to stop Xavier from killing the X-Men.
8- They never talk about the time-travelling issue. "Logan" follows the original timeline (at least, a tweaked version of it).
9- Caliban is totally different. He's another guy.
10- Old Man Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days, wearing the comic book costume.
11- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932, not 1939.
12- At the end of "Dark Phoenix", we see that Xavier's school was renamed after JEAN GREY. In the positive ending of DOFP, they never mentioned the name of the school anyway, so that's still consistent with DP.
MARVEL officially listed the "Logan" universe as Earth-17315.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Oct 4, 2022 22:27:45 GMT
We will know.
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Post by havenless on Oct 7, 2022 4:57:13 GMT
There’s no maybe about it. Feige will not set a movie in a universe he didn’t have full creative control over. Fox-Men will not be incorporated into the MCU, unless for random alternate universe jabs like the one in MoM.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 6, 2024 18:45:38 GMT
This is it.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 7, 2024 5:49:07 GMT
We already know Deadpool is set in a different universe because it has Ra's al Ghul and The Riddler, who are two DC characters.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 22, 2024 11:50:15 GMT
There’s no maybe about it. Feige will not set a movie in a universe he didn’t have full creative control over. Fox-Men will not be incorporated into the MCU, unless for random alternate universe jabs like the one in MoM. Uh, X-Men 97 is set in a universe he didn't have full creative control over. So what you're saying here is a complete lie. lol Kevin Feige himself said that a pre-MCU Marvel universe was going to crush into the 616 MCU. LMAO
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 22, 2024 12:02:49 GMT
It's simple.
In the main X-Men Movie Timeline (all 7 movies), Logan is alive and well in 2023, and he got white streaks in his hair.
'Deadpool 3' should be set in 2024. If Logan shows up, without white streaks, it's a further proof that it's an alternate universe.
No offense, but this is a dumb argument. Do you know that people can get rid of white streaks, right? No they didn't.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on May 5, 2024 23:36:30 GMT
It's simple.
In the main X-Men Movie Timeline (all 7 movies), Logan is alive and well in 2023, and he got white streaks in his hair.
'Deadpool 3' should be set in 2024. If Logan shows up, without white streaks, it's a further proof that it's an alternate universe.
No offense, but this is a dumb argument. Do you know that people can get rid of white streaks, right? No they didn't. 1- Logan would not dye his hair. He's Logan! A wild man. 2- Yes they did. Check it out.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 6, 2024 3:59:06 GMT
No offense, but this is a dumb argument. Do you know that people can get rid of white streaks, right? No they didn't. 1- Logan would not dye his hair. He's Logan! A wild man. 2- Yes they did. Check it out. 1- You're making another silly argument. 2- The people worked on Logan say otherwise.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 2, 2024 0:49:17 GMT
1- Logan would not dye his hair. He's Logan! A wild man. 2- Yes they did. Check it out. 2- The people worked on Logan say otherwise. Hugh and the director kinda confirmed it, so you're pretty much wrong.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 6, 2024 7:07:01 GMT
2- The people worked on Logan say otherwise. Hugh and the director kinda confirmed it, so you're pretty much wrong. No they didn't. You clearly have not been reading Hugh's recent interviews and the director never said that.
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