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Post by Popeye Doyle on Dec 4, 2022 0:51:57 GMT
Marty returns to 1985 and sees himself take off to 1955 after Doc is shot. Is this cycle bound to repeat itself over and again?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 4, 2022 1:16:21 GMT
If i understand the movies correctly, than i am going with no.
But i could be wrong.
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Post by ck100 on Dec 4, 2022 1:43:38 GMT
I would say so if you travel to the past.
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Post by MCDemuth on Dec 4, 2022 2:33:56 GMT
Marty returns to 1985 and sees himself take off to 1955 after Doc is shot. Is this cycle bound to repeat itself over and again? No... Because the Libyans don't chase returning Marty in the returning DeLorean with a rocket launcher and so he doesn't go back to 1955 again... He goes back to his house with Doc and the next morning he goes with Doc and Jennifer to 2015. Didn't you see the movie?
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Dec 4, 2022 2:41:20 GMT
Marty returns to 1985 and sees himself take off to 1955 after Doc is shot. Is this cycle bound to repeat itself over and again?
Marty 1 and Marty 2. They have different memories.
Marty 1 was the original. Marty 2 spent his life with two rich and popular parents.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Dec 4, 2022 2:46:24 GMT
Marty returns to 1985 and sees himself take off to 1955 after Doc is shot. Is this cycle bound to repeat itself over and again? No... Because the Libyans don't chase returning Marty in the returning DeLorean with a rocket launcher and so he doesn't go back to 1955 again... He goes back to his house with Doc and the next morning he goes with Doc and Jennifer to 2015. Didn't you see the movie? The version of himself he sees take off to 1955… does he eventually return to 1985? |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 4, 2022 4:36:47 GMT
No... Because the Libyans don't chase returning Marty in the returning DeLorean with a rocket launcher and so he doesn't go back to 1955 again... He goes back to his house with Doc and the next morning he goes with Doc and Jennifer to 2015. Didn't you see the movie? The version of himself he sees take off to 1955… does he eventually return to 1985? On that note, the Marty he sees take off was raised by a pair of posh, elite squares who spoil him with little dick trucks. Is he still Cool Marty, or is he gonna go back to 1955 and get his ass handed to him? Did Doc, knowing the future, take steps to make sure the two 1985 Marty's were more or less the same so the 1955 events wouldn't play out too differently? |
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Dec 4, 2022 12:30:48 GMT
The version of himself he sees take off to 1955… does he eventually return to 1985? On that note, the Marty he sees take off was raised by a pair of posh, elite squares who spoil him with little dick trucks. Is he still Cool Marty, or is he gonna go back to 1955 and get his ass handed to him? Did Doc, knowing the future, take steps to make sure the two 1985 Marty's were more or less the same so the 1955 events wouldn't play out too differently?
It's very simple, actually. Marty 2 departs from 1985 (while Marty 1 sees "him" taking off). He goes to 1955 (replacing Marty 1), and causing the development/conduct of an altered version of the first movie ("altered" because he is Marty 2, not Marty 1). IN THE WHILE, in 1985, Marty 1 awakes in his "new" bed, and he's 100% surprised to know that his family is changed. He has still the old memories, temporarily. Slowly, the Ripple Effect reaches out to Marty 1 and "transforms" him into Marty 2 (OFF SCREEN). It's Marty 2 in BTTF2 and BTTF3. Not Marty 1. You can see some differences in personality too.
On a side note, It's Marty 2 the "original Marty" operating in 1955 that you see in BTTF2.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 4, 2022 15:43:20 GMT
On that note, the Marty he sees take off was raised by a pair of posh, elite squares who spoil him with little dick trucks. Is he still Cool Marty, or is he gonna go back to 1955 and get his ass handed to him? Did Doc, knowing the future, take steps to make sure the two 1985 Marty's were more or less the same so the 1955 events wouldn't play out too differently?
Slowly, the Ripple Effect reaches out to Marty 1 and "transforms" him into Marty 2 (OFF SCREEN). It's Marty 2 in BTTF2 and BTTF3. Not Marty 1. You can see some differences in personality too.
On a side note, It's Marty 2 the "original Marty" operating in 1955 that you see in BTTF2.
Yeah, otherwise Marty 1 would be completely inane with zero recollection of Marty 2's entire life to that moment. It's an unspoken aspect to this stuff... just like on the DVD commentery, Zemekis points out the reason the DeLorean stalls returning to 1985, time is protecting itself, from Marty running into himself causing paradox.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Dec 4, 2022 16:45:50 GMT
Slowly, the Ripple Effect reaches out to Marty 1 and "transforms" him into Marty 2 (OFF SCREEN). It's Marty 2 in BTTF2 and BTTF3. Not Marty 1. You can see some differences in personality too.
On a side note, It's Marty 2 the "original Marty" operating in 1955 that you see in BTTF2.
Yeah, otherwise Marty 1 would be completely inane with zero recollection of Marty 2's entire life to that moment. It's an unspoken aspect to this stuff... just like on the DVD commentery, Zemekis points out the reason the DeLorean stalls returning to 1985, time is protecting itself, from Marty running into himself causing paradox.
You can see that Marty 2 is the one with the "Chicken Complex", fearing to look stupid or scary. Marty 1 didn't have this problem at all.
I GUESS that the Ripple Effect reached out to Marty 1 minutes before the sequence where he meets Doc driving the updated flying DeLorean, outside his house, at the very ending of BTTF 1.
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