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Post by drystyx on Dec 10, 2022 19:04:46 GMT
No, not from Little Rock, but about the Ark. Clearly, there's no way anyone in 5000 or 10,000 BC had world news, and most people felt the world was tinier than it really was, so there are likely a lot of Arks grounded out there, but this is one of those stories based on Faith not only in the word, but on a lot of people spreading the word, so to speak. The news about the Ark: www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/missing-link-the-remains-of-noah-s-ark-may-have-finally-been-discovered/ss-AA14kwnA?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6c96f23b34da4a79a6038b35e58113c6I'd say the Ark story is as fundamentalist as it gets. Still, the probability is that even Gilgamesh wasn't the first such story, and all stories came from similar events, maybe even the same event. Maybe there was one Noah early in the History of the human species. And it wouldn't have taken a world wide flood to make him think it was world wide. Indeed, even from a biblical standpoint, it would only have to be a flood big enough to wipe out the few humans that existed. All of this would still have to be "miracle" based, since you'd have to fit so many animals on such an Ark, which would mean shrinking them down to tiny sizes I guess, so they would fit on the Ark, or some such miracle. There weren't meteorologists in those days, and little understanding of sea level, so it's likely there were a lot of "Arks" in ancient History. Not saying it isn't the Ark of the bible, just that it's a story that requires a lot of blind faith to believe. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 11, 2022 8:18:46 GMT
A storm so massive it floods every continent up to the tip of Everest shoulda left a mark. Of course the fundamentalist answer is God left no tail tale signs because we are supposed have faith in the unknown narrator. I agree there may have been a huge storm in region or maybe a tidal wave, even a perfect storm of both, and considering the Mesopotamian Fertile Crescent where these myths take place has a huge flood plain with Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, it probably flooded more than once. So there very well could have been a farmer who became legendary for saving his herd using a boat. And it could have been a Johnny Appleseed-like tall tale even back then.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 11, 2022 15:15:38 GMT
Still, led to a trippy Russell Crowe movie.
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Post by lunda2222 on Dec 15, 2022 1:47:29 GMT
No, not from Little Rock, but about the Ark. Clearly, there's no way anyone in 5000 or 10,000 BC had world news, and most people felt the world was tinier than it really was, so there are likely a lot of Arks grounded out there, but this is one of those stories based on Faith not only in the word, but on a lot of people spreading the word, so to speak. The news about the Ark: www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/missing-link-the-remains-of-noah-s-ark-may-have-finally-been-discovered/ss-AA14kwnA?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6c96f23b34da4a79a6038b35e58113c6I'd say the Ark story is as fundamentalist as it gets. Still, the probability is that even Gilgamesh wasn't the first such story, and all stories came from similar events, maybe even the same event. Maybe there was one Noah early in the History of the human species. And it wouldn't have taken a world wide flood to make him think it was world wide. Indeed, even from a biblical standpoint, it would only have to be a flood big enough to wipe out the few humans that existed. All of this would still have to be "miracle" based, since you'd have to fit so many animals on such an Ark, which would mean shrinking them down to tiny sizes I guess, so they would fit on the Ark, or some such miracle. There weren't meteorologists in those days, and little understanding of sea level, so it's likely there were a lot of "Arks" in ancient History. Not saying it isn't the Ark of the bible, just that it's a story that requires a lot of blind faith to believe. Have you ever wondered about the similarities of the name the Lost Ark of the Covenant and Noa's Ark? They both mean a chest or box.
Not ship that's a later intepretaton, which frankly is not in the Bible. The dimensions described in the Bible corolates this, they are:
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Post by Sarge on Dec 16, 2022 21:44:03 GMT
According to creationists, waters receded from Canada first, you know because it's north and that's how gravity works, so Noah's Ark should be in Canada. Against my better judgement, I clicked the link and it was a slide show. Is there a grown-up version I can read?
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 16, 2022 22:02:14 GMT
According to creationists, waters receded from Canada first, you know because it's north and that's how gravity works, so Noah's Ark should be in Canada. Against my better judgement, I clicked the link and it was a slide show. Is there a grown-up version I can read? I think the legend of Noah landing near Mt Ararat probably comes from a natural limestone formation of a boat like outcropping.  No artifacts have been found to indicate this was manmade, much less the remains of the ark. |
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Post by drystyx on Dec 16, 2022 22:16:33 GMT
According to creationists, waters receded from Canada first, you know because it's north and that's how gravity works, so Noah's Ark should be in Canada. Against my better judgement, I clicked the link and it was a slide show. Is there a grown-up version I can read? I think the legend of Noah landing near Mt Ararat probably comes from a natural limestone formation of a boat like outcropping. No artifacts have been found to indicate this was manmade, much less the remains of the ark. It takes a village working together to make a good tourist industry-Anonymous Roswell resident. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 16, 2022 22:20:20 GMT
I think the legend of Noah landing near Mt Ararat probably comes from a natural limestone formation of a boat like outcropping. No artifacts have been found to indicate this was manmade, much less the remains of the ark. It takes a village working together to make a good tourist industry-Anonymous Roswell resident. Noah never knew what cash-cow he created. Kinda like Van Gogh. |
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Post by general313 on Dec 17, 2022 0:48:41 GMT
It takes a village working together to make a good tourist industry-Anonymous Roswell resident. Noah never knew what cash-cow he created. Kinda like Van Gogh. These guys have the idea. creationmuseum.org/bible-history/noahs-ark/They're not at the same level as Disneyland or even Knott's Berry Farm yet, but maybe in time they'll get there. |
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Post by Sarge on Dec 17, 2022 1:26:07 GMT
According to creationists, waters receded from Canada first, you know because it's north and that's how gravity works, so Noah's Ark should be in Canada. Against my better judgement, I clicked the link and it was a slide show. Is there a grown-up version I can read? I think the legend of Noah landing near Mt Ararat probably comes from a natural limestone formation of a boat like outcropping. No artifacts have been found to indicate this was manmade, much less the remains of the ark. Seems plausible. I remember in the 70s some guy claimed to have found Noah's Ark |
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