selfworth10
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Post by selfworth10 on Dec 18, 2022 11:06:21 GMT
Look as the biggest Jim fanboy on here, even I have to admit, that this probably wont pass 1.3 billion worldwide. And maybe thats a good thing. Cameron said he will wrap things up with Avatar 3, if this doesnt hit it out of the park, and I am happy with that. A trilogy always sounded better. China is looking at a lukewarm 65 million weekend and USA at 120- 130 million OPENING WEEKEND.
The movie is OVERLONG AND HAVE PACING ISSUES, still the last hour is utterly jawdropping and exciting.
8.5 for me.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Dec 18, 2022 11:28:33 GMT
Didn't the first movie makes around $70m OW? What it has was staying power, making money week after week. Not saying Way of Water will have the same staying power, but we have to at least entertain the possibility.
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Post by selfworth10 on Dec 18, 2022 11:35:50 GMT
Didn't the first movie makes around $70m OW? What it has was staying power, making money week after week. Not saying Way of Water will have the same staying power, but we have to at least entertain the possibility. Yes I agree, its playing right pass New years day, with only compition from Puss n Boots, so it may still have strong legs. |
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Post by politicidal on Dec 18, 2022 14:20:38 GMT
I had a feeling the length would work against it.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 18, 2022 14:22:43 GMT
I had a feeling this would happen, the first Avatar was such a visual landmark for it's time so it made sense it made a ton of money. 13 years later the gimmick has kinda worn off.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 18, 2022 15:03:30 GMT
Too many years & too few re-watches of the first. The first's 3D was magical. I still hope we get all what's promised with sequels, I'm still interested. Avatar is still a worthy cinematic escape.
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Post by gbone on Dec 18, 2022 15:22:50 GMT
I had a feeling this would happen, the first Avatar was such a visual landmark for it's time so it made sense it made a ton of money. 13 years later the gimmick has kinda worn off. This. |
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Post by Cat on Dec 18, 2022 17:41:00 GMT
A lukewarm 65 million. God, the absurdity of excess. 120 - 130 million opening weekend in the US and it's "under-performing". Hilarious.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 18, 2022 18:04:08 GMT
A lukewarm 65 million. God, the absurdity of excess. 120 - 130 million opening weekend in the US and it's "under-performing". Hilarious. Well it's "underperforming" in the sense that it didn't meet expectations. Though I the expectations were a little too high for the reason I gave previously. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Dec 18, 2022 18:48:34 GMT
Given inflation and other things--who thinks that people want to flock to a $50 movie that they know will be preaching about BLM (bluealiencats lives matter)?
There's no way it would have broken any records.
Plus Hollywood Accounting by definition means the practice of cooking the books on finances in Hollywood so we don't know how well it did. They lie.
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Post by Cat on Dec 18, 2022 18:52:45 GMT
A lukewarm 65 million. God, the absurdity of excess. 120 - 130 million opening weekend in the US and it's "under-performing". Hilarious. Well it's "underperforming" in the sense that it didn't meet expectations. Though I the expectations were a little too high for the reason I gave previously. I also think that at least for now, inflation and money concerns are the big things. There's the theater aspect part of it too. I'm probably going to see Avatar 2 with my sister, but I broached the idea with a few other friends of mine and their reaction was theaters gotta give them a reason to go. My impression is a lot of people feel this way. Theaters are losing the competition to streaming services + home comforts.
That's my impression. 120 - 130 million for an opening weekend seems like dizzying success to me, so I gotta wonder is it low because it didn't meet expectations, or is it low because it's low? Maybe expectations are unreasonably high.
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Post by kolchak92 on Dec 18, 2022 18:53:54 GMT
I had a feeling the length would work against it. But why? Every big movie made today is long like that. |
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Post by ck100 on Dec 18, 2022 19:11:48 GMT
Maybe the excessive TV coverage of the first film recently, the gap between the first and second film, the long run time of the sequel, and the overrated reputation of the first film played a role in causing the sequel to underperform.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Dec 18, 2022 19:18:00 GMT
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Post by onethreetwo on Dec 18, 2022 19:24:13 GMT
A lot of people are fine waiting and watching from home now. Post pandemic you gotta be Spider-Man to make people leave their house.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 18, 2022 20:05:03 GMT
Tell me about it. We could had gotten at least two more Alitas with that dough. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 18, 2022 20:41:03 GMT
People are already doomposting about the movie? At least wait until after New Year for the doom and gloom.
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Post by ck100 on Dec 18, 2022 20:44:34 GMT
Maybe having the movie underperform will make Cameron more humble, take his ego down a notch, and make him have a better approach for the sequels with more efficient and better storytelling with a lot less self-indulgence.
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Post by Lux on Dec 18, 2022 20:56:03 GMT
Tell me about it. We could had gotten at least two more Alitas with that dough. 1 Alita movie was more than enough it wasn't dreadful but that was probably because it stopped at only 1. |
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on Dec 19, 2022 3:46:18 GMT
The original AVATAR did not need a sequel.
Instead, Cameron will piss way the remaining productive years of his career (rather than helming new, original projects).
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