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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 1:49:12 GMT
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 30, 2022 1:56:47 GMT
On the far left of the painting is Judas Iscariot, clothed in bright red and noticeably isolated from the other figures of the painting.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 2:03:09 GMT
On the far left of the painting is Judas Iscariot, clothed in bright red and noticeably isolated from the other figures of the painting. Thanks Penn Guinn. That's interesting! I hear talks about this painting all the time, they point out different people though. The one you chose, and the one seated with his back to us. (He has a money pouch on his belt)
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 30, 2022 2:06:40 GMT
On the far left of the painting is Judas Iscariot, clothed in bright red and noticeably isolated from the other figures of the painting. Thanks Penn Guinn. That's interesting! I hear talks about this painting all the time. They point out different people though. The one you choose, and the one seated with his back to us. (He has a money pouch on his belt) Wiki Link to this painting
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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 2:23:11 GMT
Thanks Penn Guinn. That's interesting! I hear talks about this painting all the time. They point out different people though. The one you choose, and the one seated with his back to us. (He has a money pouch on his belt) Wiki Link to this painting (I spoilered the first answer because I thought this was a quiz ) Lol @quiz. No I'm really interested Wow about the wiki link! Thanks, but the moneybag makes sense too since Jesus put Judas in charge of it. It's easier to see in the real painting, but you can kind of see a small pouch on the right side of his belt. Being the only one with his back to us makes sense too, the figure on the far left has a peaceful stance, not like 'Judas' (if) and the other character goofing about. hmmm
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Post by Vegas on Dec 30, 2022 3:28:50 GMT
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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 4:36:35 GMT
In this version... I'd assume that it was the guy lurking in the background (center) thanks Vegas, I think I'm more convinced now, the one with his back to us doesn't have a halo. hmmm
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 30, 2022 5:01:49 GMT
alittlebirdie Well... wiki is not the last word on anything.... I still cannot see the purse BUT the lack of a halo sure makes sense as to who is Judas. BUT the image with the halos is not the same version as the one in the OP ... only one halo there ! edit ... there is a copy on wiki that can be enlarged and there is a very slight halo around the head of the man seated on the floor. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:El_Lavatorio_(Tintoretto).jpg
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 30, 2022 5:30:32 GMT
Why is that one guy pulling off the pants of another guy?
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 30, 2022 5:32:59 GMT
Another thing, 1st century Near Eastern Jews didn't like dogs...which was smart as they were prone to rabies.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 14:55:29 GMT
alittlebirdie Well... wiki is not the last word on anything.... I still cannot see the purse BUT the lack of a halo sure makes sense as to who is Judas. BUT the image with the halos is not the same version as the one in the OP ... only one halo there ! edit ... there is a copy on wiki that can be enlarged and there is a very slight halo around the head of the man seated on the floor. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:El_Lavatorio_(Tintoretto).jpg Yes, probably the smallest halo though. Christ is the only one with a halo in the OP. You can see a tiny bulge under the belt on the right side of Judas (?), but it's much more obvious in the real painting, and it's a lighter colour, not blue. In a way it makes sense that he's the only one that turns his back to us; as he turned his back to Jesus. It's a volunteer at the gallery I frequent that say Judas is the one on the floor, a staff member that does frequent talks says he's on the far left. I might mention my concerns if I ever see him again, LOL. Anyway, Tintoretto isn't here to ask, so maybe the question isn't answerable, but it's been fun chatting with you about it. Thanks!
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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 14:57:46 GMT
Why is that one guy pulling off the pants of another guy? LOL
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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 15:04:08 GMT
Another thing, 1st century Near Eastern Jews didn't like dogs...which was smart as they were prone to rabies. Well the dog is front and center in both paintings. "symbols of fidelity, faithfulness, protection, wealth, and unconditional love"I've heard some cultures are not fond of dogs because they are thought of as not clean, (generally speaking!)
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 30, 2022 15:19:28 GMT
Another thing, 1st century Near Eastern Jews didn't like dogs...which was smart as they were prone to rabies. Well the dog is front and center in both paintings. "symbols of fidelity, faithfulness, protection, wealth, and unconditional love"I've heard some cultures are not fond of dogs because they are thought of as not clean, (generally speaking!) True. The Muslim edict to not keep dogs as pets came from an era when dogs got rabies quite often. Rabid dog saliva is contagious as well as the bite. Can you imagine the horrors of watching a child die from rabies? So, “do not play with dogs” served a survival purpose.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Dec 30, 2022 16:43:28 GMT
Well the dog is front and center in both paintings. "symbols of fidelity, faithfulness, protection, wealth, and unconditional love"I've heard some cultures are not fond of dogs because they are thought of as not clean, (generally speaking!) True. The Muslim edict to not keep dogs as pets came from an era when dogs got rabies quite often. Rabid dog saliva is contagious as well as the bite. Can you imagine the horrors of watching a child die from rabies? So, “do not play with dogs” served a survival purpose. Thanks, I didn't know the origin. Makes sense.
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