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Post by Vits on Jun 1, 2017 11:50:15 GMT
THE FIRM is convoluted (even for a legal thriller), overlong and boring. Tom Cruise and Jeanne Tripplehorn's performances are good, but Gene Hackman does nothing memorable. Anyone could’ve played his role. The music score is very creative, but some scenes were not well-directed at all. Especially the last one Gary Busey appears in. 3/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog (in English, in Spanish or in Italian).
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 1, 2017 18:12:08 GMT
Cuddly granddad-type Wilford Brimley was a hoot (and very good) as the evil head of security. Brimley's brief role and the well acted scene between Cruise and Tripplehorn when he tells her about his adultery are my only memories of the film which I saw on cable not long after its theatrical release.
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Post by teleadm on Jun 2, 2017 17:26:21 GMT
The Firm (1993) is a well made drama that wanders down in legal technichalities that is hard for a non american to follow.
I don't mind Tom Cruise the actor, but hearing him talk in extras is enervating. It was fun it was fun it was fun it was fun in all eternaty.
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Post by Vits on Jun 2, 2017 20:28:30 GMT
wanders down in legal technichalities that is hard for a non american to follow. I completely disagree. Why do you say that?
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Post by teleadm on Jun 2, 2017 20:35:41 GMT
I gave it 8/10 , so don't worry
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Post by Vits on Jun 2, 2017 22:45:30 GMT
No, I didn't think that you disliked the movie. I want to know why you made that claim.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 18, 2022 16:57:32 GMT
6/10.
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Post by marshamae on Feb 18, 2022 18:40:23 GMT
I have always liked this film . I like Jeanne Tripplehorn and she is a good match for Cruise. He may see himself as a mate for Angelina Jolie , Nicole Kidman et al, leggy super beauties, but nature intended him for the more prosaic charms of Tripplehorn. I like that in this film , though she is a good girl, she is by far the stronger partner, if only because she knows who she is.
I loved gene Hackman . I’m musing about your claim that anyone could have played Avery Tolar. It’s a part full of whiskey and cigarettes and I can think of many actors who could play it, JAMES Coburn, Jason Robards, even Dean Martin, anyone at home with a weak self loathing alcoholic type. I disagree that Hackman brought nothing fresh to the role. Avery seemed strong and sleazy then slowly revealed himself to be decent and damaged. Maybe a lot of actors could do it, but Hackman made us like the guy as he revealed his weakness.
I especially liked the pale milky Terry Kinney as the stockyard goat leading cruise into the slaughterhouse. Hal Holbrook as the senior partner , talking family values , laundering mafia millions, was great . The whole Holly Hunter Gary Busey thing did not grab me. Don’t know what was wrong with Busey but he seemed very ill at ease with the lines. Hunter seemed miscast as the sleepy party doll, but as her part shifted to chief conspirator she was fine and her scenes with Tripplehorn and David Straithairn were adorable. I’m not a southerner but I thought the southern vibe was fine . Wonder how real residents of the Deep South felt. My very favorites were PAUL SORVINO and Joe Viterelli as the dreaded Moralto brothers. Francis Ford Coppola changed forever the way these scenes with real mobsters are played. These guys shed danger like dry ice sheds carbon dioxide, cold, and still. They said not one discourteous thing , offered Cruise a seat and a drink, made no threats , and took over the film.
I have to say that Cruise did well. He was basically the puppy, owned by everyone in the film , from his wife to his bosses, to the feds led by Ed Harris, to Steven Hill in a nice cameo as the AG. He is everyone’s little brother, even Holly Hunter treats him like a kid badly needing to be clued in. Without giving up that little brother spot he manages to get the best of all of them. It was well done.
Finally Dave Grusin. I would like to think that he can toss these off easily. I was so disappointed to see him on a talk show where the host was fawning over him for this score, and Grusin was basking in it, like “ yes I am pretty wonderful” The he got up to play the main theme, and it was disappoint8ng because it’s not a concert piece. He is a lesson in how Hollywood overexposure can really mess with you. The score had lots of color and movement. It had the potential to be too assertive , as Max Steiner’s scores sometimes were, but the director used Grusin’s music wisely.
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Post by movielover on Feb 18, 2022 18:54:52 GMT
7/10
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Post by Penn Guinn on Feb 18, 2022 19:15:52 GMT
marshamaeYou should review movies more often ... your's makes me want to watch The Firm again ! Have only seen it once and that was ages ago !
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Post by Rufus-T on Feb 18, 2022 19:21:23 GMT
Saw it on VHS when it was first released, and saw it again for the 2nd time just a week or two ago. I can understand why some may not like it. I don't know much about the law profession, but I am sure there is a lot of exaggeration in the John Grisham story. I however thought this was a very well-played out suspense in the law profession that deal with the crooked firm. Tom Cruise fit the role to a tee. Holly Hunter was terrific too. There is however a weakness in the evolving of the Gene Hackman character. The wife, played Jeanne Tripplehorn, can be over complicated. It is definitely not an artsy movie. Very entertaining though with great performance and thrilling mystery. I found the movie very satisfying. I would recommend it to general audience, but probably not to critical cinephiles.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Feb 18, 2022 19:23:36 GMT
I would recommend it to general audience, but probably not to critical cinephiles. a new favorite phraseology !
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Post by Rufus-T on Feb 18, 2022 19:29:33 GMT
I would recommend it to general audience, but probably not to critical cinephiles. a new favorite phraseology ! Definitely entertaining. Entertainment is usually not part of a factor for a good movie for a diehard cinephiles. It is an important factor for me. The early part with the growing mystery was intriguing. I was at the edge of sit the last part of the movie. Also, I forgot to mention Hal Holbrook & Wilford Brimley, the top honcho and hitman of the firm, and Ed Harris as the FBI agent, all fantastic.
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Post by Rufus-T on Feb 18, 2022 19:46:25 GMT
I’m not a southerner but I thought the southern vibe was fine . Wonder how real residents of the Deep South felt. My very favorites were PAUL SORVINO and Joe Viterelli as the dreaded Moralto brothers. Francis Ford Coppola changed forever the way these scenes with real mobsters are played. These guys shed danger like dry ice sheds carbon dioxide, cold, and still. They said not one discourteous thing , offered Cruise a seat and a drink, made no threats , and took over the film. That brief scene with Paul Sorvino and Joe Viterelli was awesome.
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Post by timshelboy on Feb 18, 2022 20:11:34 GMT
A solid 7/10 from me - saw it at the cinema upon release and again on TV debut. For me the best Grisham adaptation yet. Lengthy but engrossing all the way - don't remember being bamboozled by legal minutiae but perhaps I didn't perplex myself too much about that. Not a Cruise fan but he did good here. I thought Hackman brought a lot to the table - one of my favourite performances of His. Jeanne Tripplehorn impressive too - although I must protest that she is in any way "prosaic" - she's a stunning beauty for me outclassing Angelina, Nicole, Mimi Rogers etc - and frankly way out of Cruise's league - and seemed somehow too mature for him Always wondered why she never became a bigger star name. This and BASIC INSTINCT back to back should have set her up for some good offers... but 5 years later she was playing the "other woman" to Gwyneth in SLIDING DOORS... Liked most of the supports - Brimley, Harris, Holbrook and esp Holly Hunter's much needed comedy relief. I think this is the one where Hackman baulked at Cruise's contractual demand that he alone be billed above the title on the posters - Hackman refused any billing at all rather than take "featured" billing with Tripplehorn etc. Can't say I blame him. See poster below
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Post by mattgarth on Feb 18, 2022 21:10:51 GMT
Director Pollack was drawn to this project because of its negative look at the legal profession.
He had an adversarial relationship for many years with attorneys.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Feb 18, 2022 23:21:37 GMT
THE FIRM is convoluted (even for a legal thriller), overlong and boring. You must have seen a different version than the one I just finished watching !
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Post by Penn Guinn on Feb 18, 2022 23:25:57 GMT
marshamae Rufus-TJust finished watching The Firm again and enjoyed it even more having read your comments ... thanks ! It deserves / needs more than one viewing to catch the twisty bits and to enjoy all the great character actor performances without being distracted by the busy busy plot details.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Feb 18, 2022 23:30:17 GMT
I think this is the one where Hackman baulked at Cruise's contractual demand that he alone be billed above the title on the posters - Hackman refused any billing at all rather than take "featured" billing with Tripplehorn etc. Re: According to IMDb trivia: both Hackman and Cruise had billing positions in their contracts Looks like they worked it all out.
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