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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2023 19:48:07 GMT
Saw a few rumors about the BIG CAMEOS in Secret Wars, along with about a billion Reddit posts with people FANBOYYING OUT. My reaction was a little different. I see the cameo thing getting old fast so I thought I’d share some thoughts on VARIANTS…
In Dr Strange’s Mom we see VARIANTS of Strange, all still played by Cumberbatch, who commit or have committed dark actions: one tried to kill America, another used the Darkhold to obtain Christine, while yet another used the Darkhold to stop Thanos and ended up destroying a universe. All of this serves the story because it shows us what our prime Strange may be capable of. When he does indeed use the Darkhold Christine remarks “You Stranges are all the same!” This line has weight because of the VARIANTS.
In the same movie we see Captain Carter and WhatsHerName as Captain Marbles. Both are played by actresses we know from the MCU and based on knowledge from past MCU films we can easily surmise how they became these heroes in a “what if?” scenario. Cameos like this are fun and can be introduced organically, but without anyone there to interact with them they feel a bit pointless. Strange doesn’t care about who they are. If say, Sam or Bucky or Carol were there it would have more meaning. In Secret Wars these types of cameos could be great fun, but probably won’t serve the story very much.
Then there’s the LEGACY VARIANTS. The Patrick Stewarts, the HugeAckmans, the TOBEY TOBERMANS. No Way Home is a really fun movie, but at the end of day it’s a gimmick. The fan service is fun, but ultimately kind of flimsy. Past Spidermen do serve the story as they act as mentors to prime Peter. But the thrill is based on the meta knowledge of past franchises and nostalgia. As a huge fan of Stewart’s Xavier I should have been giddy to see him in Dr Strange’s Mom. Instead I was left wondering why we wasted valuable screen time on blatant fan service that doesn’t serve the current story. If HUGEACKMAN is going to shake hands with TOBERMAN in SUPER SECRET WARS it will likely get a gigantic cheer from packed theaters. But will those cheers be earned? Will it serve the story? Will it have the thematic weight of characters we know in this MCU universe paying off actual story arcs? I wonder.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 1, 2023 20:02:47 GMT
i was very excited about the multiverse stuff ( i even wanted to see batfleck daredevil again )
but SM3 showed me that it was just a pointless gimmick
so now i don't care anymore
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2023 20:16:09 GMT
i was very excited about the multiverse stuff ( i even wanted to see batfleck daredevil again ) but SM3 showed me that it was just a pointless gimmick so now i don't care anymore That was my experience as well. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 1, 2023 20:22:54 GMT
i was very excited about the multiverse stuff ( i even wanted to see batfleck daredevil again ) but SM3 showed me that it was just a pointless gimmick so now i don't care anymore That was my experience as well. that makes me sad that you didn't enjoy it i just felt like they could have bothered to at least have some sort of meaningful reason ( other than "look neighbor kid! i got all my action figures out at the same time!" ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2023 21:17:13 GMT
That was my experience as well. that makes me sad that you didn't enjoy it i just felt like they could have bothered to at least have some sort of meaningful reason ( other than "look neighbor kid! i got all my action figures out at the same time!" ) I did enjoy it, but only on a superficial level. It’s entertaining to see all three Spideys hanging out joking about past villains, ect. But it’s just a fun gimmick and not much more. It’s kinda like watching a very self aware comedy skit. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 1, 2023 21:20:50 GMT
that makes me sad that you didn't enjoy it i just felt like they could have bothered to at least have some sort of meaningful reason ( other than "look neighbor kid! i got all my action figures out at the same time!" ) I did enjoy it, but only on a superficial level. It’s entertaining to see all three Spideys hanging out joking about past villains, ect. But it’s just fun gimmick and not much more. It’s kinda like watching a very self aware comedy skit. what if mary jane died and amazing gwen died, and they were both drawn to the mcu verse to help save zendaya see it's not that hard to come up with something that carries a little weight |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 2, 2023 0:14:00 GMT
I’m just wondering if they’ve played their hand too early. We already saw the three Spider-Man and many past villains together in NWH, and we’re getting Hugh Jackman back in the next Deadpool movie. What surprises would that leave for Secret Wars?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 0:33:10 GMT
I’m just wondering if they’ve played their hand too early. We already saw the three Spider-Man and many past villains together in NWH, and we’re getting Hugh Jackman back in the next Deadpool movie. What surprises would that leave for Secret Wars?All of the past X Men. RDJ, ScarJo and Chris Evans variants. Harrison Ford’s Red Hulk fighting variants of Han Solo and Indiana Jones. |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 2, 2023 1:48:01 GMT
I’m just wondering if they’ve played their hand too early. We already saw the three Spider-Man and many past villains together in NWH, and we’re getting Hugh Jackman back in the next Deadpool movie. What surprises would that leave for Secret Wars?All of the past X Men. RDJ, ScarJo and Chris Evans variants. Harrison Ford’s Red Hulk fighting variants of Han Solo and Indiana Jones.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 20:10:43 GMT
Hey leviathan come post on this board! Too much politics will rot your brain! |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 3, 2023 20:15:42 GMT
Hey leviathan come post on this board! Too much politics will rot your brain! TOO LATE!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 20:19:54 GMT
Hey leviathan come post on this board! Too much politics will rot your brain! TOO LATE!   |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 3, 2023 20:21:41 GMT
I'll bet there is a leviathan variant who loves Joe Biden! |
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Post by leviathan on Jan 3, 2023 20:29:02 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 3, 2023 20:30:30 GMT
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Post by leviathan on Jan 3, 2023 20:33:08 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 4, 2023 8:41:18 GMT
Saw a few rumors about the BIG CAMEOS in Secret Wars, along with about a billion Reddit posts with people FANBOYYING OUT. My reaction was a little different. I see the cameo thing getting old fast so I thought I’d share some thoughts on VARIANTS… In Dr Strange’s Mom we see VARIANTS of Strange, all still played by Cumberbatch, who commit or have committed dark actions: one tried to kill America, another used the Darkhold to obtain Christine, while yet another used the Darkhold to stop Thanos and ended up destroying a universe. All of this serves the story because it shows us what our prime Strange may be capable of. When he does indeed use the Darkhold Christine remarks “You Stranges are all the same!” This line has weight because of the VARIANTS. In the same movie we see Captain Carter and WhatsHerName as Captain Marbles. Both are played by actresses we know from the MCU and based on knowledge from past MCU films we can easily surmise how they became these heroes in a “what if?” scenario. Cameos like this are fun and can be introduced organically, but without anyone there to interact with them they feel a bit pointless. Strange doesn’t care about who they are. If say, Sam or Bucky or Carol were there it would have more meaning. In Secret Wars these types of cameos could be great fun, but probably won’t serve the story very much. Then there’s the LEGACY VARIANTS. The Patrick Stewarts, the HugeAckmans, the TOBEY TOBERMANS. No Way Home is a really fun movie, but at the end of day it’s a gimmick. The fan service is fun, but ultimately kind of flimsy. Past Spidermen do serve the story as they act as mentors to prime Peter. But the thrill is based on the meta knowledge of past franchises and nostalgia. As a huge fan of Stewart’s Xavier I should have been giddy to see him in Dr Strange’s Mom. Instead I was left wondering why we wasted valuable screen time on blatant fan service that doesn’t serve the current story. If HUGEACKMAN is going to shake hands with TOBERMAN in SUPER SECRET WARS it will likely get a gigantic cheer from packed theaters. But will those cheers be earned? Will it serve the story? Will it have the thematic weight of characters we know in this MCU universe paying off actual story arcs? I wonder. This rant has been brought to you by Skittles. Taste the Rainbow! 🌈 THEY MADE SKITTLES WOKE TOO?  !!!!!! |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 4, 2023 19:19:09 GMT
Pretty much agree with everything you said. Especially that No Way Home was a gimmick. What a bad movie that was. One of the most uninspired and half-assed big-budget movies ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 19:25:28 GMT
Saw a few rumors about the BIG CAMEOS in Secret Wars, along with about a billion Reddit posts with people FANBOYYING OUT. My reaction was a little different. I see the cameo thing getting old fast so I thought I’d share some thoughts on VARIANTS… In Dr Strange’s Mom we see VARIANTS of Strange, all still played by Cumberbatch, who commit or have committed dark actions: one tried to kill America, another used the Darkhold to obtain Christine, while yet another used the Darkhold to stop Thanos and ended up destroying a universe. All of this serves the story because it shows us what our prime Strange may be capable of. When he does indeed use the Darkhold Christine remarks “You Stranges are all the same!” This line has weight because of the VARIANTS. In the same movie we see Captain Carter and WhatsHerName as Captain Marbles. Both are played by actresses we know from the MCU and based on knowledge from past MCU films we can easily surmise how they became these heroes in a “what if?” scenario. Cameos like this are fun and can be introduced organically, but without anyone there to interact with them they feel a bit pointless. Strange doesn’t care about who they are. If say, Sam or Bucky or Carol were there it would have more meaning. In Secret Wars these types of cameos could be great fun, but probably won’t serve the story very much. Then there’s the LEGACY VARIANTS. The Patrick Stewarts, the HugeAckmans, the TOBEY TOBERMANS. No Way Home is a really fun movie, but at the end of day it’s a gimmick. The fan service is fun, but ultimately kind of flimsy. Past Spidermen do serve the story as they act as mentors to prime Peter. But the thrill is based on the meta knowledge of past franchises and nostalgia. As a huge fan of Stewart’s Xavier I should have been giddy to see him in Dr Strange’s Mom. Instead I was left wondering why we wasted valuable screen time on blatant fan service that doesn’t serve the current story. If HUGEACKMAN is going to shake hands with TOBERMAN in SUPER SECRET WARS it will likely get a gigantic cheer from packed theaters. But will those cheers be earned? Will it serve the story? Will it have the thematic weight of characters we know in this MCU universe paying off actual story arcs? I wonder. This rant has been brought to you by Skittles. Taste the Rainbow! 🌈 THEY MADE SKITTLES WOKE TOO? !!!!!! Now they need to do something about Mr Goodbar’s TOXIC MASCULINITY! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 0:39:14 GMT
I think there’s a booster out now to protect against MCU variants.  |
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