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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 6, 2023 3:43:43 GMT
THEY MADE SKITTLES WOKE TOO? !!!!!! Now they need to do something about Mr Goodbar’s TOXIC MASCULINITY! The Birth of A Candy BarOne Payday, Mr. Goodbar wanted a Bit-O-Honey so he took Ms. Hershey behind the Power House on 5th Avenue. He began unstrapping her Reese's Cups. With his Butterfingers he started feeling her Mounds which he thought would be Good & Plenty, but turned out to be real Milk Duds. As he Snickered, his $100,000 Bar went up her Milky Way. She screamed "Oh Henry!" and squeezed his Tootsie Roll, by its Jujubees and the result was an Almond Joy and nine months later, a Chunky Baby Ruth.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 18:09:14 GMT
Now they need to do something about Mr Goodbar’s TOXIC MASCULINITY! The Birth of A Candy BarOne Payday, Mr. Goodbar wanted a Bit-O-Honey so he took Ms. Hershey behind the Power House on 5th Avenue. He began unstrapping her Reese's Cups. With his Butterfingers he started feeling her Mounds which he thought would be Good & Plenty, but turned out to be real Milk Duds. As he Snickered, his $100,000 Bar went up her Milky Way. She screamed "Oh Henry!" and squeezed his Tootsie Roll, by its Jujubees and the result was an Almond Joy and nine months later, a Chunky Baby Ruth.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 7, 2023 15:38:17 GMT
i was very excited about the multiverse stuff ( i even wanted to see batfleck daredevil again ) but SM3 showed me that it was just a pointless gimmick so now i don't care anymore
My man, how is there no mention of Loki ad Dr. Strange in a post about variants? It's a much bigger component to those projects than Spiderman; which is incredibly overrated. Sophie is a main character in Loki and universe hopping is a huge plot point in Dr. Strange, which I think is the best Phase 4 movie.
I thought Loki was going to show up in TMOM, maybe even be the villain. Since Loki was about the multiverse and Dr. Strange was going to be, I thought there was a logical connection. There was a build up. Wanda had her own show and was going to be in TMOM. Loki had his own show about the multiverse and the climax of that show saw the "crash" of whatever it is that kept the timelines in place. I thought that would be how we know of the multiverse and all this madness would start, but then Strange has his event in Spiderman and Wanda found ways to universe hop anyway. Wanda Vision, Loki and TMOM are great, but they didn't tie together like they should have.
So what, the events of Loki are fixed/made right before Spiderman and TMOM? Because how can Strange simply open/unleash the multiverse if it was already done at the conclusion of Loki?
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Post by Lux on Jan 7, 2023 17:30:52 GMT
Pretty much agree with everything you said. Especially that No Way Home was a gimmick. What a bad movie that was. One of the most uninspired and half-assed big-budget movies ever. NWH ruined itself with the cure storyline for me it's the second worst Marvel movie after FFH another Tom Holland Spiderman sequel. Should have kept the villains demented and dead. Takes one little thing to ruin everything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 18:01:45 GMT
i was very excited about the multiverse stuff ( i even wanted to see batfleck daredevil again ) but SM3 showed me that it was just a pointless gimmick so now i don't care anymore
My man, how is there no mention of Loki ad Dr. Strange in a post about variants? It's a much bigger component to those projects than Spiderman; which is incredibly overrated. Sophie is a main character in Loki and universe hopping is a huge plot point in Dr. Strange, which I think is the best Phase 4 movie.
I thought Loki was going to show up in TMOM, maybe even be the villain. Since Loki was about the multiverse and Dr. Strange was going to be, I thought there was a logical connection. There was a build up. Wanda had her own show and was going to be in TMOM. Loki had his own show about the multiverse and the climax of that show saw the "crash" of whatever it is that kept the timelines in place. I thought that would be how we know of the multiverse and all this madness would start, but then Strange has his event in Spiderman and Wanda found ways to universe hop anyway. Wanda Vision, Loki and TMOM are great, but they didn't tie together like they should have.
So what, the events of Loki are fixed/made right before Spiderman and TMOM? Because how can Strange simply open/unleash the multiverse if it was already done at the conclusion of Loki?
There is basically zero continuity between the shows and movies. Dr Strange is a much better experience if you just forget the shows existed- especially WandaVision. Even her characterization is totally different.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 7, 2023 22:16:11 GMT
i was very excited about the multiverse stuff ( i even wanted to see batfleck daredevil again ) but SM3 showed me that it was just a pointless gimmick so now i don't care anymore
My man, how is there no mention of Loki ad Dr. Strange in a post about variants? I didn't watch Loki, or Dr. Strange.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 8, 2023 7:20:44 GMT
i was very excited about the multiverse stuff ( i even wanted to see batfleck daredevil again ) but SM3 showed me that it was just a pointless gimmick so now i don't care anymore My man, how is there no mention of Loki ad Dr. Strange in a post about variants? It's a much bigger component to those projects than Spiderman; which is incredibly overrated. Sophie is a main character in Loki and universe hopping is a huge plot point in Dr. Strange, which I think is the best Phase 4 movie.
I thought Loki was going to show up in TMOM, maybe even be the villain. Since Loki was about the multiverse and Dr. Strange was going to be, I thought there was a logical connection. There was a build up. Wanda had her own show and was going to be in TMOM. Loki had his own show about the multiverse and the climax of that show saw the "crash" of whatever it is that kept the timelines in place. I thought that would be how we know of the multiverse and all this madness would start, but then Strange has his event in Spiderman and Wanda found ways to universe hop anyway. Wanda Vision, Loki and TMOM are great, but they didn't tie together like they should have.
So what, the events of Loki are fixed/made right before Spiderman and TMOM? Because how can Strange simply open/unleash the multiverse if it was already done at the conclusion of Loki?
The way I took it is and this could be completely worng but... Loki and TMOM are happening concurrently with maybe even Kang scene and climax happening after TMOM. So how could there be other worlds if their is only the one timeline? Well if you look at every visualization of the timeline in Loki it's not just a single ribbon/string. Ignoring the branches just look at the main timeline/branch. That's not a single ribbon or string. That's multiple strings wrapped around each other with gaps/overlaps/etc. You can tell in the branching that individual time lines are really thin. So to make up the thick middle that's a lot of smaller ones wrapped together. So the "Sacred Timline" is made up of multiple universes bound together or close by each other, but a controlled amount of similar universe that keep them all going pretty orderly. Doctor Strange and America were just hopping through those different Universes that make up that Middle String. What Loki did was totally different he took the control out of the middle stringto allow huge branches form from the "controlled/pruned" middle string into infinite branching uncontrolled timelines causing infinite branching multiverses. even before the Sacred Time was allowed to split it still had multple threads in it...
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 8, 2023 7:53:07 GMT
I see the cameo thing getting old fast
Absolutely. If Kevin doesn't get on the stick and thin out the herd, phase five will flop like phase four. And that will soon be the end of the MCU as we know it.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 8, 2023 7:56:38 GMT
I'll bet there is a leviathan variant who loves Joe Biden! I would say I hate the Aussie PM, but I don't know what his name is.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 8, 2023 8:01:37 GMT
My man, how is there no mention of Loki ad Dr. Strange in a post about variants? It's a much bigger component to those projects than Spiderman; which is incredibly overrated. Sophie is a main character in Loki and universe hopping is a huge plot point in Dr. Strange, which I think is the best Phase 4 movie.
I thought Loki was going to show up in TMOM, maybe even be the villain. Since Loki was about the multiverse and Dr. Strange was going to be, I thought there was a logical connection. There was a build up. Wanda had her own show and was going to be in TMOM. Loki had his own show about the multiverse and the climax of that show saw the "crash" of whatever it is that kept the timelines in place. I thought that would be how we know of the multiverse and all this madness would start, but then Strange has his event in Spiderman and Wanda found ways to universe hop anyway. Wanda Vision, Loki and TMOM are great, but they didn't tie together like they should have.
So what, the events of Loki are fixed/made right before Spiderman and TMOM? Because how can Strange simply open/unleash the multiverse if it was already done at the conclusion of Loki?
The way I took it is and this could be completely worng but... Loki and TMOM are happening concurrently with maybe even Kang scene and climax happening after TMOM. So how could there be other worlds if their is only the one timeline? Well if you look at every visualization of the timeline in Loki it's not just a single ribbon/string. Ignoring the branches just look at the main timeline/branch. That's not a single ribbon or string. That's multiple strings wrapped around each other with gaps/overlaps/etc. You can tell in the branching that individual time lines are really thin. So to make up the thick middle that's a lot of smaller ones wrapped together. So the "Sacred Timline" is made up of multiple universes bound together or close by each other, but a controlled amount of similar universe that keep them all going pretty orderly. Doctor Strange and America were just hopping through those different Universes that make up that Middle String. What Loki did was totally different he took the control out of the middle stringto allow huge branches form from the "controlled/pruned" middle string into infinite branching uncontrolled timelines causing infinite branching multiverses. even before the Sacred Time was allowed to split it still had multple threads in it... When Sylvie decides to kill HWR, that is the NEXUS point. Whatever time this happens on Earth 616 is when it begins. But we don't know for sure when this happens. Loki arrives at the TVA shortly after the Battle of New York in 2012. How long has he been there? Weeks, months, years? Even he doesn't know.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 8, 2023 8:10:17 GMT
The way I took it is and this could be completely worng but... Loki and TMOM are happening concurrently with maybe even Kang scene and climax happening after TMOM. So how could there be other worlds if their is only the one timeline? Well if you look at every visualization of the timeline in Loki it's not just a single ribbon/string. Ignoring the branches just look at the main timeline/branch. That's not a single ribbon or string. That's multiple strings wrapped around each other with gaps/overlaps/etc. You can tell in the branching that individual time lines are really thin. So to make up the thick middle that's a lot of smaller ones wrapped together. So the "Sacred Timline" is made up of multiple universes bound together or close by each other, but a controlled amount of similar universe that keep them all going pretty orderly. Doctor Strange and America were just hopping through those different Universes that make up that Middle String. What Loki did was totally different he took the control out of the middle stringto allow huge branches form from the "controlled/pruned" middle string into infinite branching uncontrolled timelines causing infinite branching multiverses. even before the Sacred Time was allowed to split it still had multple threads in it... When Sylvie decides to kill HWR, that is the NEXUS point. Whatever time this happens on Earth 616 is when it begins. But we don't know for sure when this happens. Loki arrives at the TVA shortly after the Battle of New York in 2012. How long has he been there? Weeks, months, years? Even he doesn't know. There is another explanation too... but I don't like it as much. Maybe killing Kang as a being outside of time affecting all of time thus affects all of time. Meaning killing him affects time all the way to the beginning allowing Multiverses and Multiple Timelines to occur going all the way back. From a person inside the timeline then after Kang is killed there has always been multiverses and multple timelines with incursions and the lot. TMOM just shows this new frame of reference.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 8, 2023 8:27:10 GMT
When Sylvie decides to kill HWR, that is the NEXUS point. Whatever time this happens on Earth 616 is when it begins. But we don't know for sure when this happens. Loki arrives at the TVA shortly after the Battle of New York in 2012. How long has he been there? Weeks, months, years? Even he doesn't know. There is another explanation too... but I don't like it as much. Maybe killing Kang as a being outside of time affecting all of time thus affects all of time. Meaning killing him affects time all the way to the beginning allowing Multiverses and Multiple Timelines to occur going all the way back. From a person inside the timeline then after Kang is killed there has always been multiverses and multple timelines with incursions and the lot. TMOM just shows this new frame of reference. It is all really making me not want to watch the MCU much longer. I get anxious thinking about it. They are killing off fans like me. It's like a religion with some of these fans. They squeeze the joy out of everything they touch. I think after Loki 2, I'm done. Tom Hiddleston is what pulled me into the MCU, once he's gone, and with RDJ gone, there's not much left for me.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 8, 2023 8:34:43 GMT
There is another explanation too... but I don't like it as much. Maybe killing Kang as a being outside of time affecting all of time thus affects all of time. Meaning killing him affects time all the way to the beginning allowing Multiverses and Multiple Timelines to occur going all the way back. From a person inside the timeline then after Kang is killed there has always been multiverses and multple timelines with incursions and the lot. TMOM just shows this new frame of reference. It is all really making me not want to watch the MCU much longer. I get anxious thinking about it. They are killing off fans like me. It's like a religion with some of these fans. They squeeze the joy out of everything they touch. I think after Loki 2, I'm done. Tom Hiddleston is what pulled me into the MCU, once he's gone, and with RDJ gone, there's not much left for me. Eh I see the MCU retreating and either getting redone/rebooted/starting over in next say 10 years. None of it will affect me watching. I know I saw every Comic book movie (except Super Girl) in theaters from 1980 to around 2002. Then I started missing ones like Road to Perdition. I know technically a graphic novel but it counts in my book. I still see/saw like 90% in theater though. It's always kind of been my thing. Edit: I'm pretty sure I've also seen every straight to video comic book movie between 1980-present too.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 8, 2023 8:46:51 GMT
It is all really making me not want to watch the MCU much longer. I get anxious thinking about it. They are killing off fans like me. It's like a religion with some of these fans. They squeeze the joy out of everything they touch. I think after Loki 2, I'm done. Tom Hiddleston is what pulled me into the MCU, once he's gone, and with RDJ gone, there's not much left for me. Eh I see the MCU retreating and either getting redone/rebooted/starting over in next say 10 years. None of it will affect me watching. I know I saw every Comic book movie (except Super Girl) in theaters from 1980 to around 2002. Then I started missing ones like Road to Perdition. I know technically a graphic novel but it counts in my book. I still see/saw like 90% in theater though. It's always kind of been my thing. Edit: I'm pretty sure I've also seen every straight to video comic book movie between 1980-present too. It's the volume that is lessening the depth of characters for the simple reason they cannot devote as much time to them. All of these shows and films need to be about 50% to 75% action sequences, so that only leaves a short window to build the characters. A good actor like Downy or Hiddleston can do this in one scene, but the MCU has started hiring weaker actors because they are cheaper, I'm assuming. And the writing is starting to suck. For some reason, the fanguys are blaming this all on the Libs whom they say are injecting too much "woke" into the scripts. So, now I have to defend my honor as a Liberal MCU fan and that ain't worth the price of the ticket alone. Like I said, the fun and joy of it all is disappearing. Everything gets spoiled in the end.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 8, 2023 15:06:06 GMT
My man, how is there no mention of Loki ad Dr. Strange in a post about variants? It's a much bigger component to those projects than Spiderman; which is incredibly overrated. Sophie is a main character in Loki and universe hopping is a huge plot point in Dr. Strange, which I think is the best Phase 4 movie.
I thought Loki was going to show up in TMOM, maybe even be the villain. Since Loki was about the multiverse and Dr. Strange was going to be, I thought there was a logical connection. There was a build up. Wanda had her own show and was going to be in TMOM. Loki had his own show about the multiverse and the climax of that show saw the "crash" of whatever it is that kept the timelines in place. I thought that would be how we know of the multiverse and all this madness would start, but then Strange has his event in Spiderman and Wanda found ways to universe hop anyway. Wanda Vision, Loki and TMOM are great, but they didn't tie together like they should have.
So what, the events of Loki are fixed/made right before Spiderman and TMOM? Because how can Strange simply open/unleash the multiverse if it was already done at the conclusion of Loki?
The way I took it is and this could be completely worng but... Loki and TMOM are happening concurrently with maybe even Kang scene and climax happening after TMOM. So how could there be other worlds if their is only the one timeline? Well if you look at every visualization of the timeline in Loki it's not just a single ribbon/string. Ignoring the branches just look at the main timeline/branch. That's not a single ribbon or string. That's multiple strings wrapped around each other with gaps/overlaps/etc. You can tell in the branching that individual time lines are really thin. So to make up the thick middle that's a lot of smaller ones wrapped together. So the "Sacred Timline" is made up of multiple universes bound together or close by each other, but a controlled amount of similar universe that keep them all going pretty orderly. Doctor Strange and America were just hopping through those different Universes that make up that Middle String. What Loki did was totally different he took the control out of the middle stringto allow huge branches form from the "controlled/pruned" middle string into infinite branching uncontrolled timelines causing infinite branching multiverses. even before the Sacred Time was allowed to split it still had multple threads in it...
I knew I didn't imagine this. Feig actually stated they were supposed to be connected:
That appears to have gone out the window.
What are the odds two people do something that leads to the "walls" holding the multiple universes apart breaking down at the same exact moment? No way. Loki came out before TMOM, so I'm just going to assume it takes place before TMOM until I am shown otherwise. Sylvie's actions lead to the merging of the universe/timelines. The ribbon was a great visual way to show us just what was happening, especially for someone like me. I'm a visual person. The consequences of Sylvie's actions have to be corrected in order for Strange to do what he did. She destroyed the Sacred Timeline. There would be people from countless timelines in the main MCU timeline. There weren't We don't see anyone from other universes until Strange's casts his spell; meaning the events we see in Loki had to have been corrected at this point.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 8, 2023 18:40:55 GMT
I'll bet there is a leviathan variant who loves Joe Biden! I would say I hate the Aussie PM, but I don't know what his name is. no one does
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2023 19:22:36 GMT
I see the cameo thing getting old fastAbsolutely. If Kevin doesn't get on the stick and thin out the herd, phase five will flop like phase four. And that will soon be the end of the MCU as we know it. Unfortunately the herd has never been thicker. After End Game I thought it was absolutely necessary to focus on a core group of heroes to get us reinvested like Phase One did. Instead they expanded the roster by about a dozen characters. Imagine Kang Wars when all the characters from the shows arrive to form a giant roster, most of whom the general audience won’t recognize or care about. Then there’s variants and cameos too?! I foresee a big mess that very few will care about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2023 19:25:09 GMT
I would say I hate the Aussie PM, but I don't know what his name is. no one does Captain Kangaroo.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 8, 2023 19:37:01 GMT
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Post by leviathan on Jan 18, 2023 22:53:48 GMT
I liked No Way Home. The Spider-Men worked for me
As for Doctor Strange 2-that was quite underwhelming..The Illuminati was so weak..also Reed Richards..smartest man alive..more like dumbest guy in the multiverse am i rite?
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