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Post by kuatorises on Jan 27, 2023 21:12:40 GMT
By that, I mean Avengers 1, 2, or Rangorak Hulk.I still can't believe the Russos screwed the character over this much. How does he not get another shot at Thanos? Not even a single punch? And no, him using the gauntlet is not a good replacement for it. If they insisted on wanting to see Professor Hulk and that part of the many Hulk personalities, fine. But Savage Hulk should have been back for the final battle.
And it's continued into She-Hulk, unfortunately. I thought maybe this show was going to bring him back. Abomination was involved, maybe he would get out and Hulk make his triumphant return. But no, they made the Blonsky a joke too. The introduction of his kid has to mean WWH. Has to. So he should be back eventually? *crosses fingers*
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 28, 2023 3:43:48 GMT
Hulk as a mindless Ragebeast has run his course, there's no real point to him anymore. Banner getting to where he is...it's called character development.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 28, 2023 3:56:35 GMT
Hulk as a mindless Ragebeast has run his course, there's no real point to him anymore. Banner getting to where he is...it's called character development. Some of us fans of the 1970s/1980s live action TV show would disagree... It ran for 5 years and had 3 TV Movies after that, all with the Hulk being a mindless Ragebeast, and it worked... and worked well. I loved "The Incredible Hulk" (2008), and the First Avengers film was good too... But it has been going downhill since... and I don't want to see anymore of the Banner/Hulk hybrid. Ever... And I am saying that as a long time fan of the character. The Banner/Hulk hybrid is the most idea they did in the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 4:18:23 GMT
I feel like they’ve completed his arc in End Game. Unfortunately his arc over the franchise felt extremely rushed and incomplete. Supposedly they’re making a new Hulk movie soon but I don’t see how it would work without severely regressing the character.
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Post by Marv on Jan 28, 2023 4:44:01 GMT
I feel like they’ve completed his arc in End Game. Unfortunately his arc over the franchise felt extremely rushed and incomplete. Supposedly they’re making a new Hulk movie soon but I don’t see how it would work without severely regressing the character. It wouldve been really interesting to see him go back to Sakaar...but then they threw that last minute shot in with Skaar in She Hulk and completely popped that bubble.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 5:41:42 GMT
I feel like they’ve completed his arc in End Game. Unfortunately his arc over the franchise felt extremely rushed and incomplete. Supposedly they’re making a new Hulk movie soon but I don’t see how it would work without severely regressing the character. It wouldve been really interesting to see him go back to Sakaar...but then they threw that last minute shot in with Skaar in She Hulk and completely popped that bubble. I know. It was such a dumb choice to put all that stuff in She Hulk. I don’t know what they were thinking.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jan 28, 2023 17:55:27 GMT
The Ruffalo’s ruined the character. They developed the character well as Bruce Banner but ruined him as the Hulk. The Ruffalo MCU Hulk is the worst one that there is! Worse than the CBS show Hulk. Worse than the comic book Hulk. Worse than the Universal Pictures Hulk. Worse than the Norton MCU Hulk.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 29, 2023 0:40:25 GMT
The Ruffalo’s ruined the character. They developed the character well as Bruce Banner but ruined him as the Hulk. The Ruffalo MCU Hulk is the worst one that there is! Worse than the CBS show Hulk. Worse than the comic book Hulk. Worse than the Universal Pictures Hulk. Worse than the Norton MCU Hulk. He can't stay a Ragebeast forever.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jan 29, 2023 2:11:17 GMT
The Ruffalo’s ruined the character. They developed the character well as Bruce Banner but ruined him as the Hulk. The Ruffalo MCU Hulk is the worst one that there is! Worse than the CBS show Hulk. Worse than the comic book Hulk. Worse than the Universal Pictures Hulk. Worse than the Norton MCU Hulk. He can't stay a Ragebeast forever. Let me explain why I say the Ruffalo Hulk is the worst one of all. First off, he’s the physically weakest Hulk (with the exception of the CBS show Hulk). The other two movie Hulks were stronger. And the comic book Hulk is much stronger. Then how he was used (particularly as a member of the Avengers) was wasted. He was backup muscle, as Thor was the main muscle. When he wasn’t that, he was out of control or he was inexplicably a coward. Here’s an example of how they could’ve used him much better. In Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series: season 7, the last 2 episodes - all of the clone trooopers are affected by Order 66. They set out to kill anyone who uses the Force on a starship that’s filled with them and Ashoka. She’s like a Jedi. Darth Maul is imprisoned on the ship. Even though he is Ashoka’s enemy she sets him free. The reason is she wants him to play the part of antihero who wreaks havoc against the clone troopers. And he ends up being so good at it that they are constantly distracted and can’t stay organized to carry out their plans. That’s how the Hulk should’ve been used. He’s strong and powerful enough to disrupt the bad guy and their henchmen. And you don’t have to have him be mindless. He could be drawing from Banners intelligence and purposely directing his chaos and attacks like Maul. Also he doesn’t have to be a mindless rage beast but he should always have some source of conflict going on. Maybe he’s driven by conflict of wanting to prove he’s more valuable to the Avengers as Hulk than Banner is. Or maybe it’s something else. But Hulk without conflict is like Thor without his hammer. And that’s basically what the Ruffalos did to their version of the Hulk.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 29, 2023 13:33:54 GMT
The Ruffalo’s ruined the character. They developed the character well as Bruce Banner but ruined him as the Hulk. The Ruffalo MCU Hulk is the worst one that there is! Worse than the CBS show Hulk. Worse than the comic book Hulk. Worse than the Universal Pictures Hulk. Worse than the Norton MCU Hulk. He can't stay a Ragebeast forever. Do you not know what the Hulk is? It has for 60 years. Who defends MCU Hulk's current iteration? What a dumb take.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 29, 2023 13:35:48 GMT
The Ruffalo’s ruined the character. They developed the character well as Bruce Banner but ruined him as the Hulk. The Ruffalo MCU Hulk is the worst one that there is! Worse than the CBS show Hulk. Worse than the comic book Hulk. Worse than the Universal Pictures Hulk. Worse than the Norton MCU Hulk. Ruffalo stinks, but the actual Hulk is easily the best the character has ever been as seen in Avengers 1 through Rgnorak. He looked the best, was portrayed the best. Not even close.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 29, 2023 13:44:16 GMT
Hulk as a mindless Ragebeast has run his course, there's no real point to him anymore. Banner getting to where he is...it's called character development. Some of us fans of the 1970s/1980s live action TV show would disagree... It ran for 5 years and had 3 TV Movies after that, all with the Hulk being a mindless Ragebeast, and it worked... and worked well. I loved "The Incredible Hulk" (2008), and the First Avengers film was good too...
But it has been going downhill since... and I don't want to see anymore of the Banner/Hulk hybrid. Ever... And I am saying that as a long time fan of the character. The Banner/Hulk hybrid is the most idea they did in the MCU. He's portrayed exactly the same in Age of Ultron. Looks the same and acts the same.
And he is still very much "The Hulk" in Ragnorak. So what if he talks more? He's still the core of what makes the character himself.
formersamhmd's comment is ridiculous. Agreed on that. That's what the Hulk is! A brief stint as Professor Hulk? No problem. No way he shouldn't have been included in the fight against Thanos. That's fucking embarrassing. And the fact that it's still going on? It's a disservice to the character.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 19:09:31 GMT
Honestly I wish Universal would reclaim the character and reboot it. There’s nothing left to do with him in the MCU.
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Post by Cat on Jan 29, 2023 19:57:55 GMT
I felt mildly cheated from a Hulk Thanos rematch. Stupid fake trailer showing Hulk running into battle in Wakanda. Conceptually it makes sense, but I know what my senses like and they did not care much for the Hulk that Hulk became in Endgame. He was showing dimension in Ragnarok because he was talking more. Frankly I could have lived without him in She-Hulk too. Or at least his return with his son. What was up with that?
I think he's run his course. It's fine. It's not like he had a bad run.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 29, 2023 20:06:10 GMT
He can't stay a Ragebeast forever. Do you not know what the Hulk is? It has for 60 years. Who defends MCU Hulk's current iteration? What a dumb take. I know that the Hulk was been stuck in a repetitive rut for about 30 years or so, yes.
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Post by Jason143 on Jan 29, 2023 21:47:00 GMT
I do miss the old Hulk that was scary and intimidating. This new version last few years just seems too much of a soft wuss
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 29, 2023 23:02:14 GMT
Do you not know what the Hulk is? It has for 60 years. Who defends MCU Hulk's current iteration? What a dumb take. I know that the Hulk was been stuck in a repetitive rut for about 30 years or so, yes. Yeah, no.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2023 0:59:36 GMT
Ragnarok Hulk was the best balance, imo. He had matured enough as Hulk that he wasn't a mindless rage monster and he could carry simple conversations,but he wasn't completely neutered like he was as Professor Hulk.
I was hoping to see more of that Hulk.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2023 2:14:27 GMT
Ragnarok Hulk was the best balance, imo. He had matured enough as Hulk that he wasn't a mindless rage monster and he could carry simple conversations,but he wasn't completely neutered like he was as Professor Hulk. I was hoping to see more of that Hulk. I thought Avengers 1 was the best balance because Bruce actually had a dark edge to him then. That was interesting. Now Banner is just a bro-dude. It is surprising that Hulk only started speaking in Ragnorock and then was benched for a movie before being replaced with Smart Hulk. It’s a shame the talking Hulk never interacted with the other Avengers for a movie or two.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 30, 2023 13:01:49 GMT
I hope so. The Russos got a lot right, but they did Hulk and Thor dirty.
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