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Post by Sarge on Feb 28, 2023 9:33:29 GMT
Do you have a garden? If so, do you take care of the plants before eating them or treat them poorly? If you're thinking that my comment was in reference to your experience on a farm, it wasn't. I wasn't thinking that, I was wondering if you think it's also inconsistent to care for plants before we eat them? Give them good soil, nutrients, water, keep away pests and diseases... Is that inconsistent? Toasted Cheese, is it hypocritical? |
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Post by Isapop on Feb 28, 2023 10:02:51 GMT
If you're thinking that my comment was in reference to your experience on a farm, it wasn't. I wasn't thinking that, I was wondering if you think it's also inconsistent to care for plants before we eat them? Give them good soil, nutrients, water, keep away pests and diseases... Is that inconsistent? Toasted Cheese , is it hypocritical? If I did tend a garden, it wouldn't be because I feel some soft-heartedness for the plants. My comment was about the suggestion that people who show kindness or concern for animals, but who are not vegetarians, are hypocrites ("Hypocrite! How can you donate to animal welfare organizations while supporting the giant, cruel to animals, meat industry?"). Such a person may be inconsistent, but I'll take the inconsistency of that person over the consistency of the meat eater who never shows any soft-hearted care for animals. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Feb 28, 2023 13:09:26 GMT
I'm speaking hypothetically. I like meat and dairy, but we got come to terms with the good times being over. I really don't know what this means from my own perspective. I don't eat meat and don't buy into the mass production of breeding and herding animals for a food source. Its sick and selfish.
If you are implying that you know this, make the change and show some discipline. I have dairy and eggs, but if they weren't there, I wouldn't need them.
Having so much cheap food that we can afford to throw out more than we can eat. I think the Bible refers to this as gluttony. The gluttonous are not just the fat people. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2023 16:20:06 GMT
So the cruelty gets acknowledged, albeit in a facetious manner. Therefore, it is not born out of care for the animals because there was a more devious agenda at hand. Human dentation clearly indicates we are an omnivorous species. It has been theorized that once ancient humans learned to cook the meat, that's what accelerated the evolution to modern humans. As our jaws no longer had to be robust to chew raw meat, our DNA reprogrammed that bone and muscle tissue up to the top of the head to accommodate the rapidly growing forehead caused by all that extra protein. Have to disagree with that. Comparative anatomy in evolutionary biology shows that that theory doesn't hold up... The dentition modern humans have is a direct result of evolving bipedalism, rather than diet. A shortened neonatal face with overcrowded teeth is due to walking on two legs... Compare human dentition and maxillofacial morphology with other great apes. |
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Post by Sarge on Feb 28, 2023 22:35:32 GMT
I wasn't thinking that, I was wondering if you think it's also inconsistent to care for plants before we eat them? Give them good soil, nutrients, water, keep away pests and diseases... Is that inconsistent? Toasted Cheese , is it hypocritical? If I did tend a garden, it wouldn't be because I feel some soft-heartedness for the plants. My comment was about the suggestion that people who show kindness or concern for animals, but who are not vegetarians, are hypocrites ("Hypocrite! How can you donate to animal welfare organizations while supporting the giant, cruel to animals, meat industry?"). Such a person may be inconsistent, but I'll take the inconsistency of that person over the consistency of the meat eater who never shows any soft-hearted care for animals. No need to again explain your yourself. If I understand, you admit to believing that taking care of plants before you eat them is inconsistent behavior. You imply not having, nor have ever had, a garden and probably have no knowledge of feeding yourself. So I will educate you ... it is important to take care of plants and animals before you eat them so they will grow and be in good health. Plants and animals not taken care of will suffer more stress, become diseased, probably won't produce enough to feed you, and may even die leaving you to starve. You are welcome to prove me wrong and attempt to raise your own food in a manner consistent with your uninformed and silly opinions. In fact, it would be quite amusing to see you try. |
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Post by Isapop on Feb 28, 2023 23:12:06 GMT
If I did tend a garden, it wouldn't be because I feel some soft-heartedness for the plants. My comment was about the suggestion that people who show kindness or concern for animals, but who are not vegetarians, are hypocrites ("Hypocrite! How can you donate to animal welfare organizations while supporting the giant, cruel to animals, meat industry?"). Such a person may be inconsistent, but I'll take the inconsistency of that person over the consistency of the meat eater who never shows any soft-hearted care for animals. No need to again explain your yourself. If I understand, you admit to believing that taking care of plants before you eat them is inconsistent behavior. Not at all. I think I do need to explain myself better. I mean that properly tending the plants is the sensible, utilitarian (rather than out of fondness) thing if you're going to eat them. So, there's no inconsistency at all when it comes to plants. Now, with animals, let's take chickens. From what I understand, some farmers raise "free range" chickens, because they regard the old methods as cruel to the animals. I applaud it because I don't want animals to be treated cruelly, but I buy the chicken that's convenient at my store. And I donate to animal welfare organizations, but I still eat beef and pork, all produced in what I assume are the usual and criticized methods. I think that does make me inconsistent.I'm not arguing with anything you say. My only point was that inconsistency doesn't make someone a hypocrite. |
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