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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 12, 2023 12:15:27 GMT
I'm excited about this now that we know more about the plot. Not that I wasn't interested before, but it's good to see this movie exploring some of the loose ends of the MCU's past.
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Post by pennypacker on May 24, 2023 23:36:00 GMT
What happened to Ghost Ackbar?!!!!!!?
😓😓
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Post by James on May 25, 2023 0:17:35 GMT
What happened to Ghost Ackbar?!!!!!!? 😓😓 Yeah, I just clicked on this thread and noticed he deleted. Weird.
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Post by Cat on May 25, 2023 15:59:17 GMT
What happened to Ghost Ackbar?!!!!!!? 😓😓 Yeah, I just clicked on this thread and noticed he deleted. Weird.
Hope he's alright.
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Post by pennypacker on May 25, 2023 16:50:21 GMT
Yeah, I just clicked on this thread and noticed he deleted. Weird.
Hope he's alright.
I’m honestly so sad. This sucks. Hope he’s doing okay.
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Post by James on May 25, 2023 17:14:08 GMT
I’m honestly so sad. This sucks. Hope he’s doing okay. He's on IMDB1 so I would assume he's fine.
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Post by pennypacker on May 25, 2023 17:30:00 GMT
I’m honestly so sad. This sucks. Hope he’s doing okay. He's on IMDB1 so I would assume he's fine. Well that’s good to hear. I’m still sad though.
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Post by Sam Raimi on May 26, 2023 2:22:15 GMT
He's on IMDB1 so I would assume he's fine. Well that’s good to hear. I’m still sad though. Thanks guys! I’m actually still here under this account. I thought I’d retire the Ackbar persona for a while since I mainly just discuss Marvel here now. But you can also find me still in Ack form on other forums as well.
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Post by James on May 26, 2023 2:38:03 GMT
Well that’s good to hear. I’m still sad though. Thanks guys! I’m actually still here under this account. I thought I’d retire the Ackbar persona for a while since I mainly just discuss Marvel here now. But you can also find me still in Ack form on other forums as well. Thanks for letting us know!
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Post by pennypacker on May 26, 2023 4:11:58 GMT
Well that’s good to hear. I’m still sad though. Thanks guys! I’m actually still here under this account. I thought I’d retire the Ackbar persona for a while since I mainly just discuss Marvel here now. But you can also find me still in Ack form on other forums as well. Yes! Thank goodness! I don’t intend on joining any of the other “spinoff” forums - for a number of reasons - but it’s good know Ghost Ackbar lives on.
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Post by Sam Raimi on May 26, 2023 5:45:20 GMT
Thanks guys! I’m actually still here under this account. I thought I’d retire the Ackbar persona for a while since I mainly just discuss Marvel here now. But you can also find me still in Ack form on other forums as well. Yes! Thank goodness! I don’t intend on joining any of the other “spinoff” forums - for a number of reasons - but it’s good know Ghost Ackbar lives on. I kinda regret doing it now. I miss my Ackbar status! Of course I can always change back, just without the post history.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 26, 2023 13:04:07 GMT
Yes! Thank goodness! I don’t intend on joining any of the other “spinoff” forums - for a number of reasons - but it’s good know Ghost Ackbar lives on. I kinda regret doing it now. I miss my Ackbar status! Of course I can always change back, just without the post history. I'll be bACK!!!
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Post by Power Ranger on May 26, 2023 13:30:34 GMT
I liked Falcon Cap until that refugee speech he made in TF&TWS. He’s dead to me now which is a shame because a new Cap kicking ass could be great. But if you go woke, you go broke. Don’t doubt it.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 26, 2023 14:47:24 GMT
Woke cap is the best cap!
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Post by Cat on May 26, 2023 16:14:51 GMT
I liked Falcon Cap until that refugee speech he made in TF&TWS. He’s dead to me now which is a shame because a new Cap kicking us could be great. But if you go woke, you go broke. Don’t doubt it. This I don't get. Virtually everything he said in his speech was right, and the UN guy pointed out that the people coming back from the snap created complications that can't just be solved so easily, so it wasn't a one-sided debate. Both sides have points and neither are completely right.
Is that what you mean by woke, the fact that Sam turned around and said the people the UN branded as terrorists have a point? It's more complicated than that. Just because you have a point doesn't mean you're right, hence the tone-deaf politician and his point about people returning from the snap having rights too.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 26, 2023 16:48:06 GMT
I liked Falcon Cap until that refugee speech he made in TF&TWS. He’s dead to me now which is a shame because a new Cap kicking us could be great. But if you go woke, you go broke. Don’t doubt it. Stay Asleep, Stay a Sheep.
Captain America's always been a "Woke" character. Deal with it.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 26, 2023 19:57:10 GMT
I liked Falcon Cap until that refugee speech he made in TF&TWS. He’s dead to me now which is a shame because a new Cap kicking us could be great. But if you go woke, you go broke. Don’t doubt it. This I don't get. Virtually everything he said in his speech was right, and the UN guy pointed out that the people coming back from the snap created complications that can't just be solved so easily, so it wasn't a one-sided debate. Both sides have points and neither are completely right.
Is that what you mean by woke, the fact that Sam turned around and said the people the UN branded as terrorists have a point? It's more complicated than that. Just because you have a point doesn't mean you're right, hence the tone-deaf politician and his point about people returning from the snap having rights too.
I don't know about it being "woke" (where ideology is taken to an extreme, dictator level), but that Wilson said to the UN officials to not refer to the Flag Smashers as terrorists despite the fact that they were committing acts of terrorism that lead to the deaths of innocent people. His point about them doing better could've still been made, but still acknowledge the criminal actions of the Flag Smashers. The speech reads and sounds ideologically confusing.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 26, 2023 20:15:05 GMT
I liked Falcon Cap until that refugee speech he made in TF&TWS. He’s dead to me now which is a shame because a new Cap kicking us could be great. But if you go woke, you go broke. Don’t doubt it. Stay Asleep, Stay a Sheep.
Captain America's always been a "Woke" character. Deal with it.
False. "Woke" is ideology taken to an extreme, dictator level. Recent stories have tried to make him, or anyone who carries the mantle, as such, but Captain America was originally created as a non-partisan heroic character who has no political allegiance because he values democracy over parties. In most of his publication history, rarely ever took sides on political issues because he didn't think it was his job to do so. In one instance when a friend of his campaigned for office he went around supporting him as Steve Rogers not suited up as Captain America, and he says to someone that he votes for the person not the party. His actions, beliefs, and attitudes range from conservative to libertarian to democrat depending on the situation, a running gag is that his ideals are considered old fashioned by his peers.
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Post by Cat on May 26, 2023 20:17:59 GMT
This I don't get. Virtually everything he said in his speech was right, and the UN guy pointed out that the people coming back from the snap created complications that can't just be solved so easily, so it wasn't a one-sided debate. Both sides have points and neither are completely right.
Is that what you mean by woke, the fact that Sam turned around and said the people the UN branded as terrorists have a point? It's more complicated than that. Just because you have a point doesn't mean you're right, hence the tone-deaf politician and his point about people returning from the snap having rights too.
I don't know about it being "woke" (where ideology is taken to an extreme, dictator level), but that Wilson said to the UN officials to not refer to the Flag Smashers as terrorists despite the fact that they were committing acts of terrorism that lead to the deaths of innocent people. His point about them doing better could've still been made, but still acknowledge the criminal actions of the Flag Smashers. The speech reads and sounds ideologically confusing. Sam's reaction was emotional to be sure. From his perspective he's listening to a man label the Flag-Smashers as terrorists without any interests in their grievances. In a way, Sam was responding to his tone of disinterest, but as the UN official pointed out in his rebuttal, the people who came back from the dead have rights too. So it seemed to me that, as Sam himself might have put it from an earlier episode, the UN guy was out of line but he's right. That stalled Sam's lecture, but I think the point Sam was making is that the terrorist label excuses the UN from having to address the Flag-Smashers as anything but mindless thugs when in fact they're more than that. The reason I don't think it was ideological or "woke" is because Sam balanced criticizing the UN's use of labels without condoning the Flag-Smasher's criminal actions.
That's what I think is most important about Sam's speech. He's not condoning the acts, he's just saying it's not as simple as that. Furthermore though, the UN guy cited the rights of the returned, which is the other side of it's not that simple, and by doing that, the show didn't make Sam the sole voice of right. He made good points but he has flaws in his reasoning too.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 27, 2023 1:22:31 GMT
Stay Asleep, Stay a Sheep.
Captain America's always been a "Woke" character. Deal with it.
False. "Woke" is ideology taken to an extreme, dictator level. Recent stories have tried to make him, or anyone who carries the mantle, as such, but Captain America was originally created as a non-partisan heroic character who has no political allegiance because he values democracy over parties. In most of his publication history, rarely ever took sides on political issues because he didn't think it was his job to do so. In one instance when a friend of his campaigned for office he went around supporting him as Steve Rogers not suited up as Captain America, and he says to someone that he votes for the person not the party. His actions, beliefs, and attitudes range from conservative to libertarian to democrat depending on the situation, a running gag is that his ideals are considered old fashioned by his peers. Woke = Aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)
That's all. Anything else is just nonsense cooked up by Reactionaries.
Cap's first story has an image of him punching out Hitler. You don't get more blatant than that.
I mean, given how the last 20 years of propaganda have brainwashed the masses to think "Terrorist" = "Irredeemable Evil" I suppose this reaction was inevitable.
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