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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 14, 2023 20:44:49 GMT
Or would you prefer a reboot?
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 14, 2023 22:06:20 GMT
Not a reboot. What I'd want is for the MCU to take a break, maybe a year where they don't produce any content. Allow themselves time to really listen to feedback, then start releasing a max of 2-3 products a year, hire only quality writers, and make sure to prioritize quality and entertainment over ideologies or agendas.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 14, 2023 23:19:03 GMT
Anyone complaining about "Agendas" doesn't understand how storytelling works.
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Post by scabab on Jun 15, 2023 0:23:43 GMT
I am and it shouldn't be rebooted but my interest has waned considerably. It peaked with the back to back of Infinity War and Endgame. They are never gonna top Phase 3.
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Post by James on Jun 15, 2023 0:41:23 GMT
Yes.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 15, 2023 4:55:39 GMT
not really, i wonder if they can top Singer's X-Men, or make it too kiddie
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 15, 2023 12:57:24 GMT
not really, i wonder if they can top Singer's X-Men, or make it too kiddie They already beat Singer's X-Men, that was a glorified B-Movie.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 15, 2023 13:28:08 GMT
A reboot this soon is unnecessary, and would never live up to what we got from 2008-2019. Just get the current storyline back on track, the MCU lacks focus at the moment. During the Infinity Saga, things were always moving toward something, right from the get go. Now it's like they're just throwing stuff against a wall to see what sticks. They were experimenting with different kinds of storytelling in phase 4, but it all felt so disjointed, and a lot of it was subpar. If they want to create all of this essentially bonus content with the shows, that's great. But don't tell movie audiences these shows are required viewing. It's too much for casual audiences, and it really bogs down the process of moving the overall story forward.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jun 15, 2023 19:47:58 GMT
I am, unapologetically.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 15, 2023 23:48:12 GMT
A reboot this soon is unnecessary, and would never live up to what we got from 2008-2019. Just get the current storyline back on track, the MCU lacks focus at the moment. During the Infinity Saga, things were always moving toward something, right from the get go. Now it's like they're just throwing stuff against a wall to see what sticks. They were experimenting with different kinds of storytelling in phase 4, but it all felt so disjointed, and a lot of it was subpar. If they want to create all of this essentially bonus content with the shows, that's great. But don't tell movie audiences these shows are required viewing. It's too much for casual audiences, and it really bogs down the process of moving the overall story forward. I disagree. I think the Marvel has greater potential than what we saw. Think of your favourite films. I bet there is not one MCU film in there. But there is no reason why they couldn’t be.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 16, 2023 12:48:24 GMT
A reboot this soon is unnecessary, and would never live up to what we got from 2008-2019. Just get the current storyline back on track, the MCU lacks focus at the moment. During the Infinity Saga, things were always moving toward something, right from the get go. Now it's like they're just throwing stuff against a wall to see what sticks. They were experimenting with different kinds of storytelling in phase 4, but it all felt so disjointed, and a lot of it was subpar. If they want to create all of this essentially bonus content with the shows, that's great. But don't tell movie audiences these shows are required viewing. It's too much for casual audiences, and it really bogs down the process of moving the overall story forward. I disagree. I think the Marvel has greater potential than what we saw. Think of your favourite films. I bet there is not one MCU film in there. But there is no reason why they couldn’t be. To each their own, but plenty of MCU flicks are among my favorites. GOTG, Winter Soldier, Iron Man, and all of the Avengers films are among my favorites; probably more if I sat down to think about it.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 16, 2023 14:51:28 GMT
A reboot this soon is unnecessary, and would never live up to what we got from 2008-2019. Just get the current storyline back on track, the MCU lacks focus at the moment. During the Infinity Saga, things were always moving toward something, right from the get go. Now it's like they're just throwing stuff against a wall to see what sticks. They were experimenting with different kinds of storytelling in phase 4, but it all felt so disjointed, and a lot of it was subpar. If they want to create all of this essentially bonus content with the shows, that's great. But don't tell movie audiences these shows are required viewing. It's too much for casual audiences, and it really bogs down the process of moving the overall story forward. I disagree. I think the Marvel has greater potential than what we saw. Think of your favourite films. I bet there is not one MCU film in there. But there is no reason why they couldn’t be. The Avengers is probably my favorite film of all time.
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Post by Cat on Jun 16, 2023 20:36:28 GMT
Not really since Endgame. I was on the fence about Endgame, but not about the sign off from the original Avengers, which is why I had a mild distaste for Thor: Love and Thunder. Good or bad, it felt like an original Avenger being dragged back onto the stage after a well-earned bow.
I'm still of the opinion as I always have been that it would be an incredibly gangster move for the MCU to have ended after Infinity War with a Thanos win to retain the dramatic punch of the snap.
At any rate, I'm not as invested as I was, but it just means it's not for me. If I were genuinely invested as something other than an innocent fan, I'd suggest they cool it for a while and let the public thirst for more. Right now it seems like capitalistic greed on steroids, as if anything but 5 steps forward is six steps back. They're making films and shows like their lives depend on it and it's not landing; at least not for me.
A reboot to me is silly. That's what you do with a property that's failed. The problem imo with the MCU is narrative. It won't close. It won't ride into the sunset on the laurels of its victory. You can only stay ahead of the pack for so long before getting tired and falling behind. It's not pacing itself. Its time in the sun is turning into an eclipse. Look too long and get burned.
In my opinion, the entire film Spiderman: Far from Home was like the extra-credit scene of the phase 1 - 3 story arc. I think if they want longevity and don't want an endless count-up like Superbowl 40, Wrestlemania 60, etc., they should start new stories and give them the same phase sequences 1 - 3 and so forth. All of phase 4 minus Black Widow has been a chore, in my opinion, because it asks you to remember the world starts five years in the future. That's why it should have concluded after Far From Home. I think it's too much to expect people to recall going in.
Nonetheless, it wasn't until Captain America: Civil War that I noticed these films were getting somewhere in the court of public opinion and moving the dial of pop culture. Now they're in a paradox of domineering underdog. It should bow out for a while to recapture that coming from behind appeal.
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Post by pennypacker on Jun 18, 2023 2:26:51 GMT
No, but I never was.
A reboot probably wouldn’t help.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 18, 2023 21:37:49 GMT
Not as much as I used to be, there needs to be more consistency in quality. I thought Spider-Man: No Way Home and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 were fantastic, and Shang-Chi has its moments, but every other feature film released after Endgame has been either dull or nonsensical. On the television side of things, there hasn't been one original program put out on Disney+ that has been consistently great from premiere to finale. All of them have dropped the ball pretty hard and when things pick up it has been too late to have had any strong impact.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 18, 2023 23:27:05 GMT
Funny how it's fine when the Netflix shows all fall apart within 1 season (except Daredevil) but the D+ shows are singled out for abuse over the exact same thing.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 19, 2023 0:40:08 GMT
Funny how it's fine when the Netflix shows all fall apart within 1 season (except Daredevil) but the D+ shows are singled out for abuse over the exact same thing. So much bait, so little debate, do you have as much of a bite as you think, mate? By the way, you have just been banned from Knowhere.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 19, 2023 3:50:39 GMT
Funny how it's fine when the Netflix shows all fall apart within 1 season (except Daredevil) but the D+ shows are singled out for abuse over the exact same thing. So much bait, so little debate, do you have as much of a bite as you think, mate? By the way, you have just been banned from Knowhere. Yes, I know. I don't know what I posted this time though. What was so offensive now?
I'm simply sick of the double standards here.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 19, 2023 4:02:36 GMT
So much bait, so little debate, do you have as much of a bite as you think, mate? By the way, you have just been banned from Knowhere. Yes, I know. I don't know what I posted this time though. What was so offensive now?
I'm simply sick of the double standards here.
Oh, I am sure that you do know. Hopefully this will give you some extra time to get a much-needed reality check.
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Post by Sam Raimi on Jun 19, 2023 4:14:56 GMT
Yes. Because no matter how bad Thor 4 and Ant Man 3 were there’s no reason I can’t still enjoy future solo movies like Blade or F4 if they’re good.
I am concerned I will no longer enjoy the shared universe aspect though as I no longer like all the characters and find the tv shows to be unwatchable.
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