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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 14, 2023 15:11:25 GMT
Aren't they influenced by Islam? I don't think they have these views all of a sudden because they discovered Matt Walsh. I think we can go back thousands of years in regard to how Islam views homosexuality. It's not just because of any extreme sexually graphic material in schools it's anything to do with homosexuality or just acknowledgment. Of course, Trudeau won't want to demonize Islam as being intolerant so it's back to the good old bogeyman the far right. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Muslim parents who object to their children being taught about gender identity issues in schools are being fed “misinformation and disinformation” by “the American right-wing” and the “far right.”
“I’ve heard this concern many, many times and I know that it is a very real issue,” Trudeau tells a concerned Muslim parent in Calgary, in an eight-minute exchange recorded on video and posted online Wednesday night.
“First of all, there is an awful lot of misinformation and disinformation out there. People on social media, particularly fuelled by the American right-wing, are spreading a lot of untruths about what’s actually in the provincial curriculums.
“Now if you look at the various curriculums, you’ll see that there is not what is being said out there about aggressive teaching or conversion of kids to being LGBT. That is something that is being weaponized by people who are not doing it because of their interest in supporting the Muslim community.
“These are people on the far right who have consistently stood against Muslim rights and the Muslim community, but they are weaponizing the issue of LGBT, which is something that, yes, Islam has strong opinions on, the same way that the religious right in Canada, the Christian right, has strong opinions against as well.”
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Post by jackbrock on Jul 15, 2023 0:52:29 GMT
Everyone is influenced by their upbringing. There are a lot of kooky white (sometimes allegedly Christian) people who embrace the same sort of right wing ideology - Proud Boys, KKK, Oathkeepers.
Why pick on the Muslims?
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 15, 2023 3:33:47 GMT
Everyone is influenced by their upbringing. There are a lot of kooky white (sometimes allegedly Christian) people who embrace the same sort of right wing ideology - Proud Boys, KKK, Oathkeepers. Why pick on the Muslims? The far right/kkk types are well documented in regards to their bigotry. Why not denounce Islamic bigotry instead of trying to blame the far right? If some white supremacy group were out targeting LGBTQ nobody would say they've been influenced by Islam. Islam hasn't much time for gays. It's been in their culture for thousands of years. |
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Post by jackbrock on Jul 15, 2023 14:10:07 GMT
Everyone is influenced by their upbringing. There are a lot of kooky white (sometimes allegedly Christian) people who embrace the same sort of right wing ideology - Proud Boys, KKK, Oathkeepers. Why pick on the Muslims? The far right/kkk types are well documented in regards to their bigotry. Why not denounce Islamic bigotry instead of trying to blame the far right? If some white supremacy group were out targeting LGBTQ nobody would say they've been influenced by Islam. Islam hasn't much time for gays. It's been in their culture for thousands of years. All of it should be denounced. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 15, 2023 18:00:48 GMT
The far right/kkk types are well documented in regards to their bigotry. Why not denounce Islamic bigotry instead of trying to blame the far right? If some white supremacy group were out targeting LGBTQ nobody would say they've been influenced by Islam. Islam hasn't much time for gays. It's been in their culture for thousands of years. All of it should be denounced. I agree but it isn't. When talking about Muslim parents there is no need to talk about the far right and white supremacy. Just mention something about Islamic bigotry is not a Canadian value and has no place in Canada. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 16, 2023 19:19:07 GMT
White supremacists protesting in Mississauga, Ontario Canada.
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Post by The Lost One on Jul 17, 2023 8:49:28 GMT
I think it's relatively uncontroversial to say some Muslims are hopping on the gender critical bandwagon that is being driven by the far right. I don't think Trudeau is saying that Islam had no LGBT objections prior to this though - in fact he acknowledges the opposite: 'the issue of LGBT, which is something that, yes, Islam has strong opinions on'.
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 17, 2023 22:46:19 GMT
I think it's relatively uncontroversial to say some Muslims are hopping on the gender critical bandwagon that is being driven by the far right. I don't think Trudeau is saying that Islam had no LGBT objections prior to this though - in fact he acknowledges the opposite: 'the issue of LGBT, which is something that, yes, Islam has strong opinions on'. They're not jumping on any bandwagon. This is how they feel about LGBTQ. They don't want anything to do with it. And that's the mild point of view. That's Islamic culture for a thousand years or whatever. Likes of Trudeau want to pretend it's NTDWI but it has everything to do with it. |
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Post by The Lost One on Jul 18, 2023 8:20:13 GMT
I think it's relatively uncontroversial to say some Muslims are hopping on the gender critical bandwagon that is being driven by the far right. I don't think Trudeau is saying that Islam had no LGBT objections prior to this though - in fact he acknowledges the opposite: 'the issue of LGBT, which is something that, yes, Islam has strong opinions on'. They're not jumping on any bandwagon. This is how they feel about LGBTQ. They don't want anything to do with it. And that's the mild point of view. That's Islamic culture for a thousand years or whatever. Likes of Trudeau want to pretend it's NTDWI but it has everything to do with it. But would we be seeing Muslims protesting outside schools etc if it weren't for people like Jordan Peterson and Matt Walsh stirring things up on social media? There was a period of time where nearly every video I watched on Youtube, I saw a trailer for Matt Walsh's 'What is a Woman?' for instance. The far right are causing a panic about LGBT issues and this is feeding into already existing prejudices within Islam. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 18, 2023 21:56:55 GMT
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Post by jackbrock on Jul 19, 2023 0:05:28 GMT
All of it should be denounced. I agree but it isn't. When talking about Muslim parents there is no need to talk about the far right and white supremacy. Just mention something about Islamic bigotry is not a Canadian value and has no place in Canada. A lot of so called CINOs - Christians in name only, believe the same thing. Take a look at Djorno's "The Brokenness of Homosexuality" thread. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 21, 2023 17:30:30 GMT
Canadian elementary school teacher berates Muslim students for staying home on a day the pride flag was flown. They were practicing their religious beliefs. She used terms such as disgust, hateful, hurtful, sad, disrespectful, disappointing etc. That's basically her describing how she feels about Islam. And all the teachers, staff and the entire school board feel the exact same way? Sounds like some serious indoctrination going on.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jul 21, 2023 21:25:50 GMT
Everything is the fault of white people
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jul 22, 2023 22:14:38 GMT
Everything is the fault of white people Including mass shootings. Racism and the victims being disproportionately black mentioned by CNN. I didn't see them mention that the people who pulled the triggers are also black. Even so, it's the systemic racism of a system put in place by white people for the benefit of white people that made black people pull the trigger so whitey might as well have pulled the triggers. Or something. Mass shootings in major metropolitan areas in the United States disproportionately affect Black people, and structural racism may play a role, according to a study published on Wednesday in the journal JAMA Surgery.
The study found that in areas with higher Black populations, mass shootings are likelier to occur compared to communities with higher White populations. There are also more Black people injured and killed when mass shootings take place, the findings say.
Chicago had the greatest number of mass shootings during that period with 141, which led to 97 deaths and 583 injuries. According to the study, Milwaukee had the highest segregation index, which tracks racial disparities in schools and neighborhoods, while Baltimore had the highest unemployment rate.www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/us/mass-shootings-structural-racism/index.html |
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