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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jun 5, 2017 15:24:15 GMT
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Post by xystophoros on Jun 5, 2017 19:50:35 GMT
What is the point of using +/- to measure a guy's performance in a single game or in a short series? Cleveland lost both games by an average of more than 20 points -- they've all got negative in the +/- column, even Lebron James. That doesn't tell us anything about individual effort.
Sportswriters and sports loudmouths love using this stat, but it's only useful in context, when compared to other guys on the same team (and other units on the same team), or weighted in comparison to the rest of the league.
Anyway, Irving needs to drive to the basket. The Cavs came out blitzing the Warriors with quick cuts to the basket for the opening minutes, then fell back into trying to match the Warriors from long range. They are not gonna win that way.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jun 5, 2017 22:11:01 GMT
Honestly, even driving to the basket, idk if they can win that way either. 2 for 3...2 for 3....2 for 3...it's gonna eventually get you.
Korver has to hit some 3s. JR Smith needs to sit on the bench, idk, try to put maybe Frye in.
Give Love more shot attempts, he looks good. I do say Lebron needs to get going to the lane. IDK, this is a different GSW team.
Curry.....Klay....Durant.....Green....so much fire power.
ZaZa and McGee only gotta worry about defense and rebounds. West can provide a small pop. Igoudala is one of the best 6th men, hell he'd start for a lot of teams. Livingston isnt doing too shabby himself.
Durant just looks like a man possessed on a mission. I didnt see this fire when he was in OKC, he looks like a different guy. Problem is...if Curry is off, Durant here I come. Durant is off, here is Curry, and if both are off, Klay/Green can pick up the slack. You literally gotta hope Klay/Durant/Curry are all off. It almost seems unfair.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jun 6, 2017 0:43:11 GMT
What is the point of using +/- to measure a guy's performance in a single game or in a short series? Cleveland lost both games by an average of more than 20 points -- they've all got negative in the +/- column, even Lebron James. That doesn't tell us anything about individual effort. Sportswriters and sports loudmouths love using this stat, but it's only useful in context, when compared to other guys on the same team (and other units on the same team), or weighted in comparison to the rest of the league. Anyway, Irving needs to drive to the basket. The Cavs came out blitzing the Warriors with quick cuts to the basket for the opening minutes, then fell back into trying to match the Warriors from long range. They are not gonna win that way. the +/- stat makes sense in hockey, not hoops. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 0:54:25 GMT
What is the point of using +/- to measure a guy's performance in a single game or in a short series? Cleveland lost both games by an average of more than 20 points -- they've all got negative in the +/- column, even Lebron James. That doesn't tell us anything about individual effort. Sportswriters and sports loudmouths love using this stat, but it's only useful in context, when compared to other guys on the same team (and other units on the same team), or weighted in comparison to the rest of the league. Anyway, Irving needs to drive to the basket. The Cavs came out blitzing the Warriors with quick cuts to the basket for the opening minutes, then fell back into trying to match the Warriors from long range. They are not gonna win that way. the +/- stat makes sense in hockey, not hoops. i don't know. take a look at this. i still want to hold onto okafor if they cant swap him to move up a couple of spots in the drafts. he's young. on a rookie contract still. but right now i really don't want him on the court. he's pretty much a matador on 'd'. link: Okafor's Putrid DefenseI'm thinking me and you can put on a better effort out there  |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jun 6, 2017 1:03:23 GMT
okafor is a fatty. bad draft pick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 1:19:58 GMT
okafor is a fatty. bad draft pick. amazing he was projected to go #1 for quite sometime. truth be told - i would have made the same pick. i wanted no part of porzingis. i'm just shocked at his demeanor. he's very talented in the paint with the ball in his hands. the problem is the game has passed his 'style' by. he's an old school '5' best with the ball in his hands with his back to the basket. he slows down the offense and stagnates the game. i'm a huge proponent of 'old school 1s' - pass first, distribute, good assist to turnover ratio. league has changed though. Curry, Harden, Westbrook. the old school oaf in the paint is sadly a thing of the past when the '1' dumps the ball down low - they're looking to score now or have a sidekick on the wing. but his demeanor. he looks clinically depressed. it's shocking - to the point where me as a fan - i hope he's OK. winny the pooh depressed character: link: Eeyore: The Depressed Donkey |
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Post by xystophoros on Jun 6, 2017 3:34:00 GMT
Well Jeff Van Gundy is right when he says the league rules discourage post play. If a player so much as breathes on a shooter facing the basket he gets called for a foul, and now fouls on threes are becoming a big thing with guys theatrically selling the contact and going into a shooting motion a half second before the whistle.
But if you're a post player dudes can lean on you, make contact during the shot, and make the play much more physically demanding...and for what? Two points each bucket while perimeter guys are hitting threes with and-ones or going to the line for three FTs.
As a result there are guards who get to the line 10 or more times a game (Harden, Westbrook, etc) and feast on FTs, but big men are not going to the line as often despite the increased physicality of playing near the hoop.
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