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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 29, 2023 4:10:28 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 31, 2023 16:22:42 GMT
This movie already looked lousy, the runtime makes it even worse. Feels like this could be the most forgettable of all MCU films.
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Post by Cat on Aug 31, 2023 20:59:24 GMT
I haven't seen the trailer or know what it's about, but it couldn't hurt to scale back the run times. Not every one of them needs to be 2 and a quarter hours. The average length of them is increasing but for no seemingly good reason. 2 plus hour films is what you do with the epic team ups.
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 8, 2023 4:50:14 GMT
TMNT: Mutant Mayhem had a small runtime and received good reviews.
Plus reviewers will be harsher on a bad film the longer it is.
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Post by Sam Raimi on Sept 14, 2023 7:01:18 GMT
Rumor is that they edited out the musical segments. They may be justifiably concerned that yet another poorly received MCU comedy will further damage the franchise.
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Post by pennypacker on Sept 15, 2023 1:27:52 GMT
For a film with three leads that’s worrying.
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Post by Prime etc. on Sept 15, 2023 17:44:38 GMT
For a film with three leads that’s worrying. A film with three non-stars is even more worrying.
Could be Marvel's version of Snakes on a Plane.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 19, 2023 20:05:04 GMT
Runtime is 100% irrelevant to the quality of a movie. The story drives the runtime. There have been great movies that were very short and great movies that were very long.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 30, 2023 21:47:30 GMT
The official runtime is 105 minutes.
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 1, 2023 16:04:36 GMT
The official runtime is 105 minutes. Yikes…
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 7, 2023 14:05:59 GMT
Runtime is 100% irrelevant to the quality of a movie. The story drives the runtime. There have been great movies that were very short and great movies that were very long. Fair enough, but considering how much this movie has to do (weaving together the plot lines of three different tv shows as well as catching up with Captain Marvel herself, a short run time seems like they'll be taking an awful lot of shortcuts in what could be a complicated story. Unless they choose not to address a lot of dangling plot threads, which would be a real shame. We'll find out soon enough.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 15, 2023 20:27:00 GMT
I've found 2 hour runtimes to be the safest bet for MCU movies. They're long enough that even semi-decent writing can properly give characters and plotline enough room to breath but short enough that it doesn't risk being boring.
That said, incompetent writing can make a crappy movie regardless of runtime, and the last few MCU products have left me in doubt. Combine that recent experience with this very short runtime and I have very little hope for this movie.
Especially when all 3 main characters in this movie are some of the least liked in the MCU.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 31, 2023 0:21:02 GMT
I've found 2 hour runtimes to be the safest bet for MCU movies. They're long enough that even semi-decent writing can properly give characters and plotline enough room to breath but short enough that it doesn't risk being boring. That said, incompetent writing can make a crappy movie regardless of runtime, and the last few MCU products have left me in doubt. Combine that recent experience with this very short runtime and I have very little hope for this movie. Especially when all 3 main characters in this movie are some of the least liked in the MCU.Funny, that's what they said about Guardians.
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Post by The Lost One on Oct 31, 2023 11:18:58 GMT
I don't mind a lean run-time. Admittedly it feels like this film is going to require a bit of set-up so that doesn't leave a lot of time for the rest of the movie. It could end up similar to the 2015 Fantastic Four movie in that respect which I (seemingly alone in the world) actually really liked so I'm pretty open-minded about this.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 31, 2023 16:36:42 GMT
I've found 2 hour runtimes to be the safest bet for MCU movies. They're long enough that even semi-decent writing can properly give characters and plotline enough room to breath but short enough that it doesn't risk being boring. That said, incompetent writing can make a crappy movie regardless of runtime, and the last few MCU products have left me in doubt. Combine that recent experience with this very short runtime and I have very little hope for this movie. Especially when all 3 main characters in this movie are some of the least liked in the MCU.Funny, that's what they said about Guardians. Someone said characters who didn't exist in the MCU yet were the least liked? Weird.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 31, 2023 19:52:06 GMT
Funny, that's what they said about Guardians. Someone said characters who didn't exist in the MCU yet were the least liked? Weird. I know this will count as fallacy, but I think we can suspect the pattern from here on out... formersamhmd - "Yes, the 'fans' hated these characters and didn't want a movie to be made. They hated the very idea of it and wanted it to see fail." The (natural) response - "What do you mean? They were hardly known to the general public." formersamhmd - "They were known, very well known in fact. The 'fans' hated the characters and wanted to see the movie fail." The (natural) response - "No, they weren't. Before the first Guardians of the Galaxy, nobody knew or cared to know about the likes of Star Lord, Rocket, Drax, and Groot. They were all D list Marvel characters, a far cry from the recognition Spider-Man or Wolverine have." formersamhmd - "The YouTube Grifters brainwashed the masses into forgetting them and thinking they were insignificant to the Marvel Universe and told everyone to make the movie flop." The (natural) response - "Proof?" formersamhmd - "They deleted their videos, double standards being what it is." The (natural) response - "Like I said, proof?" formersamhmd - "IMDb boards were filled with hate, trolls were shaming the movie and saying it would doom Marvel." The (natural) response - "Once again, proof?" formersamhmd - "The proof is there. All there. Grifters like Nerdrotic and Geeks and Gamers' members were terrorizing the place." The (natural) response - "One last time, proof?" formersamhmd - "I'm telling you the Grifters were in full swing with their trolling and leading hate against a movie that hadn't come out yet." The (natural) response - "Let's back to no. 1, how were the characters from Guardians of the Galaxy as disliked as you claim them to be in 2014 when most of the general public didn't even know who they were?" formersamhmd - "They knew, YOU knew, the Grifters and 'fans' made everyone forget about and loathe them till they were proven wrong in 2014." The (natural) response - "Uh..." formersamhmd - "Killers of the Flower Moon by the whiny brat Martin Scorsese (who should be behind bars for what he did with Taxi Driver) is not 'real' cinema, The Marvels is real cinema. If you prefer Killers of the Flower Moon over The Marvels it says a lot about you." The (natural) response - "...That I have better taste in movies?" formersamhmd - "Top Gun: Maverick is one of the most disgusting displays of Pro-American propaganda in film, there is nothing of good quality of that piece of cinematic filth, you only think it's good because you're too blinded by the flag-waving. Just like Sound of Freedom, that movie is full of lies but you ate it up and gave the Grifters more power and look how you failed the great Kathleen Kennedy with the latest Indiana Jones, it says a lot about you." The (natural) response - "OK...What does Top Gun: Maverick or Sound of Freedom have to do with *any* of this? How do you even know if I liked either movie? How do you know I didn't pay a ticket for the newest Indiana Jones? Your just spouting nonsense." formersamhmd - "I'm telling you that Top Gun: Maverick and Sound of Freedom are propaganda disguised as entertainment to trick people into supporting American causes, in particular that of the right." The (natural) response - "But what does that have to do with people disliking the characters of the Guardians of the Galaxy before their movie came out in 2014?" formersamhmd - "What are you talking about?" ...And, with that, I have done IMDb V2 a favor and saved itself from wasteful web space.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 31, 2023 21:52:39 GMT
Funny, that's what they said about Guardians. Someone said characters who didn't exist in the MCU yet were the least liked? Weird. When Guardians was announced 10 years ago, IMDB was alit with "fans" who said Fiege was insane and the Guardians were nobodies and the movie would bomb royally and destroy the MCU forever..
...Until the movie came out and those people had to eat crow.
Same deal here. No one decent actually hated Ms Marvel, or Monica, or Carol. Lots of fake fans and Fragile Broflakes angry that their White Male Supremacy was shattered keep complaining about Carol even 4 years later. Which is both sad and hilarious.
Oh and for the record, Scorsese is an old brat.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 31, 2023 23:11:47 GMT
Ah, I should have included formersamhmd's alteration of history in the narrative I presented in my response - Guardians of the Galaxy was announced being in active development in July 2012, not July 2013.
I have to admit I am curious how much virtue signaling formersamhmd is to do once The Marvels epically underperforms in theaters (the only other picture doing worse in pre-sales numbers is Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom).
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 31, 2023 23:59:08 GMT
Ah, I should have included formersamhmd's alteration of history in the narrative I presented in my response - Guardians of the Galaxy was announced being in active development in July 2012, not July 2013. I have to admit I am curious how much virtue signaling formersamhmd is to do once The Marvels epically underperforms in theaters (the only other picture doing worse in pre-sales numbers is Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom). You use Boogeyman words like "Virtue Signaling", you may as well say Phrenology was a legit science.
Tell me, did you think "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" was pandering too?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2023 4:17:16 GMT
Ah, I should have included formersamhmd's alteration of history in the narrative I presented in my response - Guardians of the Galaxy was announced being in active development in July 2012, not July 2013. I have to admit I am curious how much virtue signaling formersamhmd is to do once The Marvels epically underperforms in theaters (the only other picture doing worse in pre-sales numbers is Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom). You use Boogeyman words like "Virtue Signaling", you may as well say Phrenology was a legit science.
Tell me, did you think "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" was pandering too?
Tell me, how many times will you pay to see The Marvels? Keep in mind, it is set to perform pretty badly, to the point where it seems that Disney is preparing to take the loss but try and save face with "oh, it was a creative dead end, we are rebooting after Secret Wars anyway." So, if you really want to see Danvers, Khan, and Rambeau again before Kang Dynasty, you may need to be at the movies quite often and for whole days for weeks on end.
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