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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 5, 2017 18:05:25 GMT
(to date) after Logan on first, and TDK on second place (MCU follows with IMI and Avengers 1). This is based on adjusted RT scores. editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/50-best-superhero-movies-of-all-time/5/ Not my personal choice that. But with an opening weekend at $100M in the US this is is by far the most successful female Superhero movie ever - and even beating her male companions. Super hero origin story films usually do not reach this height at the box office. Last November’s Doctor Strange bowed to $85.1M while the first Captain America and Thor movies debuted to just over $65M each in 2011. Well, and even if the movie is not a bona fide classic transcending the genre, the commercial facts make WW a little bit of a historic milestone. UPDATE: That girl has it where it counts, not just in the legs! It seems WW has now surpassed TDK, and is second to Logan only. The Dark Knight Descends to place three...
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 6, 2017 2:16:59 GMT
Damn it, where did my bribe money go if not to those critics?!
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Post by baj2 on Jun 6, 2017 3:01:04 GMT
Thanks for the link to the ROTTEN TOMATOES statistically-adjusted ratings!
Congrats to LOGAN!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 3:48:56 GMT
Wow. Logan higher than TDK! Don't agree personally, but that's still pretty cool.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 7, 2017 19:33:18 GMT
Wow. Logan higher than TDK! Don't agree personally, but that's still pretty cool. yup, presumed underdog finally revealed to be top dog! Congrats, the "Fox-Men" are not so underappreciated after all, especially not by those who review film on a more professional basis. The top position is kind of ironic considering the relentless bulling and maligning from certain parts of the local fanbase. I enjoy the frosty silence, Karma is a bitch.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 7, 2017 20:14:53 GMT
Wow. Logan higher than TDK! Don't agree personally, but that's still pretty cool. yup, presumed underdog finally revealed to be top dog! Congrats, the "Fox-Men" are not so underappreciated after all, especially not by those who review film on a more professional basis. The top position is kind of ironic considering the relentless bulling and maligning from certain parts of the local fanbase. I enjoy the frosty silence, Karma is a bitch. Subtle much? SaveSave
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 7, 2017 20:39:36 GMT
yup, presumed underdog finally revealed to be top dog! Congrats, the "Fox-Men" are not so underappreciated after all, especially not by those who review film on a more professional basis. The top position is kind of ironic considering the relentless bulling and maligning from certain parts of the local fanbase. I enjoy the frosty silence, Karma is a bitch. Subtle much? SaveSave as a sledgehammer (what gave it away, the whip..? Yeah that was a bit much maybe..). But I'm afraid you are one of the very few with the mind to fully appreciate me sowing some discord, and bathing in marvelous schadenfreude, my dear Atomica. Always a pleasure.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 7, 2017 20:48:44 GMT
as a sledgehammer (what gave it away, the whip..? Yeah that was a bit much maybe..). But I'm afraid you are one of the very few with the mind to fully appreciate me sowing some discord, and bathing in marvelous schadenfreude, my dear Atomica. Always a pleasure.Likewise. SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 3:12:30 GMT
Wow. Logan higher than TDK! Don't agree personally, but that's still pretty cool. yup, presumed underdog finally revealed to be top dog! Congrats, the "Fox-Men" are not so underappreciated after all, especially not by those who review film on a more professional basis. The top position is kind of ironic considering the relentless bulling and maligning from certain parts of the local fanbase. I enjoy the frosty silence, Karma is a bitch. It does amaze me that even when the X Men franchise really hits one outta the park some fans will still cling to studio bias and deny how good it is. I very much enjoy the MCU, but I doubt a Disney owned movie would've had the balls to do a Wolverine movie like Logan. If Marvel owned his rights they'd probably give him a low budget Netfix show. Anyway, if some people want to deny themselves the full spectrum of great movies the genre has to offer its their loss.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 12, 2017 21:47:17 GMT
UPDATE: That girl has it where it counts, not just in the legs! It seems WW has now surpassed TDK, and is second to Logan only. The Dark Knight Descends to place three...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 22:00:56 GMT
Wow. Logan higher than TDK! Don't agree personally, but that's still pretty cool. yup, presumed underdog finally revealed to be top dog! Congrats, the "Fox-Men" are not so underappreciated after all, especially not by those who review film on a more professional basis. The top position is kind of ironic considering the relentless bulling and maligning from certain parts of the local fanbase. I enjoy the frosty silence, Karma is a bitch. Too bad for you and those crusty old out-of-touch critics, the box office is the only cinematic battle arena that matters. What karma? Get back to me when Wonder Woman's pulled in a a billion and a half.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 1:18:25 GMT
yup, presumed underdog finally revealed to be top dog! Congrats, the "Fox-Men" are not so underappreciated after all, especially not by those who review film on a more professional basis. The top position is kind of ironic considering the relentless bulling and maligning from certain parts of the local fanbase. I enjoy the frosty silence, Karma is a bitch. Too bad for you and those crusty old out-of-touch critics, the box office is the only cinematic battle arena that matters. What karma? Get back to me when Wonder Woman's pulled in a a billion and a half. I'm sorry, but, wouldn't it be better to say that, ok if RT does meter he admits that mos, bvs and as were all shit? Cause he can't have both... Ww is good by RT only if the others are shit. I'm going to start a thread on DC boards.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 13, 2017 6:10:56 GMT
Too bad for you and those crusty old out-of-touch critics, the box office is the only cinematic battle arena that matters. What karma? Get back to me when Wonder Woman's pulled in a a billion and a half. I'm sorry, but, wouldn't it be better to say that, ok if RT does meter he admits that mos, bvs and as were all shit? Cause he can't have both... Ww is good by RT only if the others are shit. I'm going to start a thread on DC boards. dude, both are wrong: the raptor per usual commits a fallacy, a silly and spiteful bandwagon and Texan sharpshooting argument: Only box office matters when assessing quality and historic relevance. You create a false dilemma and appeal to authority. One must distinguish two things: 1) Fact level: So, the official ratings or averaged ratings by professional critics do matter as a FACT of official artistic quality appreciation, if you agree on them or not. This is especially relevant for a movie like WW (i) because it is the first female led super hero film with artistic quality attested to it and (ii) less importantly the first DCEU film (of 4) that has an excellent rating (2nd best CBM reviewed ever). 2) Personal level: That being said, you personally do not have to agree with official ratings by professional critics or averaged ratings. Stating that ratings are binding is an sheeple's appeal to authority. I think that previous DCEU movies are bad to mediocre, just as all MCU movies. There are only few CBM movies with artistic value IMO, most are commercial assembly-line products pandering to the lowest common denominator. But just IMO.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 13, 2017 6:55:46 GMT
Thank you! hard to believe that there are people who claim that a super-hero movie series is the greatest cinematic achievement of all time!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 10:10:28 GMT
I'm sorry, but, wouldn't it be better to say that, ok if RT does meter he admits that mos, bvs and as were all shit? Cause he can't have both... Ww is good by RT only if the others are shit. I'm going to start a thread on DC boards. dude, both are wrong: the raptor per usual commits a fallacy, a silly and spiteful bandwagon and Texan sharpshooting argument: Only box office matters when assessing quality and historic relevance. You create a false dilemma and appeal to authority. One must distinguish two things: 1) Fact level: So, the official ratings or averaged ratings by professional critics do matter as a FACT of official artistic quality appreciation, if you agree on them or not. This is especially relevant for a movie like WW (i) because it is the first female led super hero film with artistic quality attested to it and (ii) less importantly the first DCEU film (of 4) that has an excellent rating (2nd best CBM reviewed ever). 2) Personal level: That being said, you personally do not have to agree with official ratings by professional critics or averaged ratings. Stating that ratings are binding is an sheeple's appeal to authority. I think that previous DCEU movies are bad to mediocre, just as all MCU movies. There are only few CBM movies with artistic value IMO, most are commercial assembly-line products pandering to the lowest common denominator. But just IMO. So, let me get this straight you personally dislike the MCU movies but factually you agree they are well put together, well received movies, and RT scores are indication of that. 4 of the top ten are MCU movies (5 if you only consider live action), you don't have almost half of the 10 greatest sh movies of all time (according to RT not average rating) if you have mediocre movies. The only thing giving authority to say ww is the 2nd best is that there are others before that are almost as well reviewed. But are still excellent. Objectively there is no other way to spin it. Also it's not the 2nd best reviewed it's the second with the most positive reviews on RT. The average is still just 7.6, Wich is great but not the 2nd best. Even Logan is not the best reviewed, as averages are concerned. So, Fact: it's not the 2nd best reviewed cbm Fact: it's the 2nd best cbm RT percentage Fact: it's the best reviewed with best RT female lead cbm Opinion: I love it Opinion: It's right there in between some MCU movies. So where am I wrong stating that you only get to use RT score if you do it consistently? If not it's just your opinion, but some people here use it as fact.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 13, 2017 11:04:48 GMT
yup, presumed underdog finally revealed to be top dog! Congrats, the "Fox-Men" are not so underappreciated after all, especially not by those who review film on a more professional basis. The top position is kind of ironic considering the relentless bulling and maligning from certain parts of the local fanbase. I enjoy the frosty silence, Karma is a bitch. Too bad for you and those crusty old out-of-touch critics, the box office is the only cinematic battle arena that matters. What karma? Get back to me when Wonder Woman's pulled in a a billion and a half. I only care if it makes enough to warrant a sequel. Otherwise i never care for box office. Or do you hold in high regards the Transformers franchise? because it made a lot of money
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jun 13, 2017 15:49:32 GMT
If going by RT scores, the top 10 superhero movies of all time would look like this:
1. The Dark Knight (94%) 2. Iron Man (94%) 3. Logan (93%) 4. Spider-Man 2 (93%) 5. Wonder Woman (93%) 6. Superman: The Movie (93%) 7. The Avengers (92%) 8. Guardians of the Galaxy (91%) 9. Captain America: Civil War (90%) 10. Doctor Strange (90%)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 16:15:49 GMT
Too bad for you and those crusty old out-of-touch critics, the box office is the only cinematic battle arena that matters. What karma? Get back to me when Wonder Woman's pulled in a a billion and a half. I only care if it makes enough to warrant a sequel. Otherwise i never care for box office. Or do you hold in high regards the Transformers franchise? because it made a lot of money Why am I not surprised you're taking the snob's side?
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Post by miike80 on Jun 13, 2017 16:21:02 GMT
I only care if it makes enough to warrant a sequel. Otherwise i never care for box office. Or do you hold in high regards the Transformers franchise? because it made a lot of money Why am I not surprised you're taking the snob's side? Why would i care about the box-office? i have no share. It's enough that i don't want it to bomb, and they could make another one
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 16:26:27 GMT
Why am I not surprised you're taking the snob's side? Why would i care about the box-office? i have no share. It's enough that i don't want it to bomb, and they could make another one The only time I care about the box office is when I can use it to put jerks like Tristan down. He wants to flaunt a nothing number in our faces, so I'll shove something that actually matters in the cinematic arena in his. To answer your question about Transformers: they're stupid, harmless action flicks and they wouldn't receive even half the attention they do if people would just shut up about them.
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