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Post by miike80 on Jun 13, 2017 16:39:13 GMT
Why would i care about the box-office? i have no share. It's enough that i don't want it to bomb, and they could make another one The only time I care about the box office is when I can use it to put jerks like Tristan down. He wants to flaunt a nothing number in our faces, so I'll shove something that actually matters in the cinematic arena in his. To answer your question about Transformers: they're stupid, harmless action flicks and they wouldn't receive even half the attention they do if people would just shut up about them. 1B dollars worth of attention is a lot. but yeah, they're god-awful. maybe the first one is decent, i'll give it that |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 16:46:38 GMT
The only time I care about the box office is when I can use it to put jerks like Tristan down. He wants to flaunt a nothing number in our faces, so I'll shove something that actually matters in the cinematic arena in his. To answer your question about Transformers: they're stupid, harmless action flicks and they wouldn't receive even half the attention they do if people would just shut up about them. 1B dollars worth of attention is a lot. but yeah, they're god-awful. maybe the first one is decent, i'll give it that What's hilarious is that a lot of the people who hate them contributed to that 1B dollars. I still remember hopping onto the Transformers 2 board back on the original IMDb and seeing it flooded with posts from people who didn't like the first one, but still went to see the second one... for some reason. Then those same masochists also paid to see the third one... for some reason. I really don't get that. |
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Post by miike80 on Jun 13, 2017 17:06:28 GMT
1B dollars worth of attention is a lot. but yeah, they're god-awful. maybe the first one is decent, i'll give it that What's hilarious is that a lot of the people who hate them contributed to that 1B dollars. I still remember hopping onto the Transformers 2 board back on the original IMDb and seeing it flooded with posts from people who didn't like the first one, but still went to see the second one... for some reason. Then those same masochists also paid to see the third one... for some reason. I really don't get that. Yeah, me neither.Why would you pay for a movie that you know i might wnd up hating |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 17:13:01 GMT
What's hilarious is that a lot of the people who hate them contributed to that 1B dollars. I still remember hopping onto the Transformers 2 board back on the original IMDb and seeing it flooded with posts from people who didn't like the first one, but still went to see the second one... for some reason. Then those same masochists also paid to see the third one... for some reason. I really don't get that. Yeah, me neither.Why would you pay for a movie that you know i might wnd up hating The only times I've ever been subjected to a film I knew I wouldn't like was if a friend or relative wanted to see it but didn't want to go alone, and I was the only one free that evening. Or they have kids who wanted to see the new Transformers film. I saw the first three, myself. Nothing special, but I honestly don't get what all the hubbub is about, one way or another. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 14, 2017 1:13:18 GMT
dude, both are wrong: the raptor per usual commits a fallacy, a silly and spiteful bandwagon and Texan sharpshooting argument: Only box office matters when assessing quality and historic relevance. You create a false dilemma and appeal to authority. One must distinguish two things: 1) Fact level: So, the official ratings or averaged ratings by professional critics do matter as a FACT of official artistic quality appreciation, if you agree on them or not. This is especially relevant for a movie like WW (i) because it is the first female led super hero film with artistic quality attested to it and (ii) less importantly the first DCEU film (of 4) that has an excellent rating (2nd best CBM reviewed ever). 2) Personal level: That being said, you personally do not have to agree with official ratings by professional critics or averaged ratings. Stating that ratings are binding is an sheeple's appeal to authority. I think that previous DCEU movies are bad to mediocre, just as all MCU movies. There are only few CBM movies with artistic value IMO, most are commercial assembly-line products pandering to the lowest common denominator. But just IMO.  So, let me get this straight you personally dislike the MCU movies but factually you agree they are well put together, well received movies, and RT scores are indication of that. 4 of the top ten are MCU movies (5 if you only consider live action), you don't have almost half of the 10 greatest sh movies of all time (according to RT not average rating) if you have mediocre movies. The only thing giving authority to say ww is the 2nd best is that there are others before that are almost as well reviewed. But are still excellent. Objectively there is no other way to spin it. Also it's not the 2nd best reviewed it's the second with the most positive reviews on RT. The average is still just 7.6, Wich is great but not the 2nd best. Even Logan is not the best reviewed, as averages are concerned. So, Fact: it's not the 2nd best reviewed cbm Fact: it's the 2nd best cbm RT percentage Fact: it's the best reviewed with best RT female lead cbm Opinion: I love it Opinion: It's right there in between some MCU movies. So where am I wrong stating that you only get to use RT score if you do it consistently? If not it's just your opinion, but some people here use it as fact.  dude, did you even read the link showing the adjusted ToMeter (using Bayesian statistical method) to account for different review numbers; without that you cannot compare movies objectively and fairly. Get that already, I wont explain statistical calculations on averaging factors to you. I give you another Fact vs Opinion puzzle: The movie Lord of War (that i just re-watched) is rated roughly above 60 - I don't have adjusted data to compare. But I think ("IMO") it's a more artistic valuable than all MCU and DCU films put together, as it is a shockingly reveling film about arms trading with great story ideas, it plays like a comedy but most of it are facts (which make it even more shocking). But you need to have an intelligence age of over 14 to prefer it over GunRacoon, NinjaTurtles and friends. |
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