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Post by leafs27 on Sept 25, 2023 21:19:31 GMT
I am curious where all this is going with Justin!
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Post by stargazer1682 on Sept 25, 2023 22:46:12 GMT
Of all the retcons to give Victor another offspring, why Alex instead of Justin? Justin kind of seems more deserving, all things consider given his history with Victor; and whatever they might be setting up for Alex could conceivably still be done with him as Victor's grandson or whatever.
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Post by flyboyla on Sept 26, 2023 3:31:37 GMT
I thought that they were going to make Xander out to be Victor’s son? That would be so much more interesting. So, who is Alex’s mother? Was it Angelica?
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Post by stargazer1682 on Sept 26, 2023 3:42:45 GMT
I thought that they were going to make Xander out to be Victor’s son? That would be so much more interesting. So, who is Alex’s mother? Was it Angelica? I wonder if it's a red herring. I saw a random post stating Alex was Victor's son; and a comment implied that that wasn't the whole truth. So who knows if that was just speculation or based on something substantially known about the direction of the plot.
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Post by leafs27 on Sept 26, 2023 13:12:26 GMT
Yeah I agree I thought they would make it so that Justin was Victor's son. But they have said many times that Justin has no interest in running Titan so this is obviously to tie in with all of the business stories - Alex will run Titan, get closer to Stephanie...Chad is out of a job, no way he will work for Alex.
Meh, I am disappointed.
And yes Angelica is Alex's mother. Original stories with Angelica (recap) from 1987-1991:
Anjelica was the second wife to Harper Deveraux, but there was little love between them. Angelica became infatuated with Justin Kiriakis, and had a brief affair with him while he was separated from his wife Adrienne. Angelica assumed the child was Harper's, but when she learned he was sterile she realized the baby was Justin's. After her husband Harper was arrested for being the Riverfront Knifer, Anjelica revealed Harper was not the father of her child, she also told Justin he was not as well.
Victor Kiriakis suspected the child was Justin's and he proposed to Angelica in hope of passing the baby of as his own. Victor went through elaborate measures to try to marry Anjelica but never did. Instead she wed Neil Curtis. Victor tried to ruin their marriage by luring Neil back into his old habit of gambling. Neil eventually went into debt and had to sell Blondies. Angelica quickly left him when he was near broke.
Anjelica decided to go after Justin in hope's he would marry him and take care of his son. In an attempt to break Justin up Anjelica allowed Adrienne to learn that Alexander was Justin's son. However that didn't break them up. Anjelica then agreed to marry Justin's uncle Victor because she knew Justin wouldn't allow his uncle to raise his son. Justin stopped the wedding and put Anjelica up in a penthouse of her own. In a last ditch effort to hold onto Justin Adrienne pretended to be pregnant. When Anjelica learned that Adrienne wasn't pregnant she exposed her to Justin, and Adrienne and Justin eventually agreed to divorce.
Anjelica tried to eliminate Adrienne once and for all by having a site that Adrienne's's construction company was working on bombed. As a result, Adrienne was caught in the blast. Justin rescued Adrienne and took the blame for the bomb, but Anjelica knew it was only a matter of time before the truth was revealed. Angelica, with Alexander, fled Salem and vowed to return. She also let Salem believed she and Alexander had died in a plane crash. Eventually Anjelica returned Alexander to Justin and hasn't been seen since.
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Post by flyboyla on Sept 27, 2023 3:15:37 GMT
Yeah I agree I thought they would make it so that Justin was Victor's son. But they have said many times that Justin has no interest in running Titan so this is obviously to tie in with all of the business stories - Alex will run Titan, get closer to Stephanie...Chad is out of a job, no way he will work for Alex. Meh, I am disappointed. And yes Angelica is Alex's mother. Original stories with Angelica (recap) from 1987-1991: Anjelica was the second wife to Harper Deveraux, but there was little love between them. Angelica became infatuated with Justin Kiriakis, and had a brief affair with him while he was separated from his wife Adrienne. Angelica assumed the child was Harper's, but when she learned he was sterile she realized the baby was Justin's. After her husband Harper was arrested for being the Riverfront Knifer, Anjelica revealed Harper was not the father of her child, she also told Justin he was not as well.
Victor Kiriakis suspected the child was Justin's and he proposed to Angelica in hope of passing the baby of as his own. Victor went through elaborate measures to try to marry Anjelica but never did. Instead she wed Neil Curtis. Victor tried to ruin their marriage by luring Neil back into his old habit of gambling. Neil eventually went into debt and had to sell Blondies. Angelica quickly left him when he was near broke.
Anjelica decided to go after Justin in hope's he would marry him and take care of his son. In an attempt to break Justin up Anjelica allowed Adrienne to learn that Alexander was Justin's son. However that didn't break them up. Anjelica then agreed to marry Justin's uncle Victor because she knew Justin wouldn't allow his uncle to raise his son. Justin stopped the wedding and put Anjelica up in a penthouse of her own. In a last ditch effort to hold onto Justin Adrienne pretended to be pregnant. When Anjelica learned that Adrienne wasn't pregnant she exposed her to Justin, and Adrienne and Justin eventually agreed to divorce.
Anjelica tried to eliminate Adrienne once and for all by having a site that Adrienne's's construction company was working on bombed. As a result, Adrienne was caught in the blast. Justin rescued Adrienne and took the blame for the bomb, but Anjelica knew it was only a matter of time before the truth was revealed. Angelica, with Alexander, fled Salem and vowed to return. She also let Salem believed she and Alexander had died in a plane crash. Eventually Anjelica returned Alexander to Justin and hasn't been seen since.Well, we got that God awful version of Angelica when Morgan Fairchild played her. Why would they cast her of all people to play Angelica? But I believe it was Bonnie that caused Angelica to have a heart attack and die. My gosh, my memory is crap. LOL! Thanks for the background on Alex, Leafs. I’m actually starting to like Rob as Alex now. His scenes with Brady and Theresa have been very entertaining lately.
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Post by leafs27 on Sept 27, 2023 14:16:52 GMT
All the stuff with Angelica and Justin and baby Alex was in the early days of me watching the show, so I do remember that story.
I thought Wally was really great when he had to tell Alex the truth and I thought RSW was also good. they both looked genuinely shattered by the news. I felt bad for them and I got a little teary-eyed. as much as I keep hoping that Bonnie is really a brainwashed Adrienne, I think Bonnie is a good wife and very loving to Justin. JE and WK have the best chemistry, you can tell they genuinely like each other and love acting together. They have been screen partners for over 30 years!
I much prefer RSW as Alex. I still don't like that model/Zoolander stare he does but he does it a little less as Alex. This is really going to change the whole dynamic with Brady, Philip and Alex now that Alex is a full-on son of Victor. Days sure really likes RSW, they have made Alex the center of the show.
Please are saying theresa tampered with the letters in the briefcase and it was really AlexandROS/Xander who is Victor's kid and not AlexandER/Alex...
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Post by leafs27 on Sept 27, 2023 14:24:18 GMT
Lots has happened this week, it's been pretty good. The stuff with Victor's will, Sarah's baby's paternity being revealed to all...I much prefer this pace on the show!
And we had 3 days in a row of stuff about Victor's will. After the reveal on Monday that Alex was Victor's son I for sure thought on Tuesday we would have to wait a few days to see what happened next.
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Post by flyboyla on Sept 27, 2023 22:14:31 GMT
I’m very surprised with the quick pacing of the show now. Hopefully it reflects in the ratings too. I think a lot of longtime fans have probably tuned in for Victor’s funeral and the returns on the show. I wonder how things are going to change when the episodes after Albert Alarr’s departure air. I’m hoping that some of the actresses return to the show. It seems like Martha is a little bit more into posting about the show now. Perhaps she is back and we just don’t know it yet?
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Post by leafs27 on Sept 28, 2023 14:30:01 GMT
I feel like we would have heard by now if Martha had returned. But I get the feeling there have been a lot of changes we don't know about yet.
On an unrelated note, I love that Ava is wearing a denim jacket. It looks so good! Hardly anyone wears jeans on this show and it's annoying!
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