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Post by Agent of Chaos on Nov 29, 2023 19:49:28 GMT
Judging from the interviews about the Deadpool/Wolverine movie and The Marvels mid-credit, it looks like Marvel is continuing the X-Men series form Fox. So why did many people online lied and said that a hard reboot was going to happen? People were saying this for years without any proof.
In fact, there were hints that Marvel was going to do a soft reboot instead. For example: Back in early 2018, right after the merger happened. Sebastian Stan teased that Hugh Jackman could come back as Wolverine and said that he could get into trouble if he said more. This was also widely reported on too.
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Post by Sam Raimi on Nov 29, 2023 21:39:05 GMT
It’s an interesting way to go. Even as a fan of those original movies though I have to admit a hard reboot would’ve been smarter.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Nov 30, 2023 0:19:02 GMT
It’s an interesting way to go. Even as a fan of those original movies though I have to admit a hard reboot would’ve been smarter. Why do you think that? The films that featured the original X-Men and Deadpool cast were financially successful, and Logan was even nominated for a screenplay Oscar. Audiences were never that interested in the prequel movies from the start and I don't think audiences would be interested in seeing a rehash of the prequels. |
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Post by Sam Raimi on Nov 30, 2023 2:31:49 GMT
It’s an interesting way to go. Even as a fan of those original movies though I have to admit a hard reboot would’ve been smarter. Why do you think that? The films that featured the original X-Men and Deadpool cast were financially successful, and Logan was even nominated for a screenplay Oscar. Audiences were never that interested in the prequel movies from the start and I don't think audiences would be interested in seeing a rehash of the prequels. Logan also died, dude. Resurrecting him via the multiverse is lazy AF. Days of Future Past also provided a nice ending for the rest. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Nov 30, 2023 2:39:24 GMT
Why do you think that? The films that featured the original X-Men and Deadpool cast were financially successful, and Logan was even nominated for a screenplay Oscar. Audiences were never that interested in the prequel movies from the start and I don't think audiences would be interested in seeing a rehash of the prequels. Logan also died, dude. Resurrecting him via the multiverse is lazy AF. Days of Future Past also provided a nice ending for the rest. Logan isn't being resurrected. Deadpool/Wolverine takes places before the events of Logan. Also there are loose ends regarding Mister Sinister. |
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Post by Shane Falco on Nov 30, 2023 21:58:50 GMT
Disney supposedly has to use the Fox actors in said roles until a certain year. Forget which year so they can't recast them and do a reboot until then. From what I have read they're bringing in some of the Fox characters for the Secret Wars film where I imagine most of them will be killed off much like Charles Xavier and Reed Richards were in Dr Strange 2. Then we will see the reboot of characters like we are seeing with Fantastic Four.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 30, 2023 23:31:35 GMT
I don't think it's necessarily the exact same FoX-Men universe, just the same actors playing variants of the characters.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 1, 2023 3:39:59 GMT
It would be quite messy to try and continue that storyline. Far better to start from scratch.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 2, 2023 0:39:49 GMT
Disney supposedly has to use the Fox actors in said roles until a certain year. Forget which year so they can't recast them and do a reboot until then. From what I have read they're bringing in some of the Fox characters for the Secret Wars film where I imagine most of them will be killed off much like Charles Xavier and Reed Richards were in Dr Strange 2. Then we will see the reboot of characters like we are seeing with Fantastic Four. The source of that claim comes from Devin Faraci, a sex offender who has spread lies about Marvel Studios in the past. So there is no reason to trust his word. His claim is also easy to disprove. The X-Men were recast in the prequel films, and in the TV shows (Legion and Gifted) that were co-produced by Marvel. So what he claims literally makes no sense. Not to mention, Reed Richards was recast in Multiverse of Madness. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 2, 2023 0:43:16 GMT
I don't think it's necessarily the exact same FoX-Men universe, just the same actors playing variants of the characters. It is according to Shawn Levy and Kevin Feige. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 2, 2023 0:44:39 GMT
It would be quite messy to try and continue that storyline. Far better to start from scratch. How so? If they had started from scratch it would just been a rehash of plot threads from the prequel films. |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 2, 2023 2:12:58 GMT
It would be quite messy to try and continue that storyline. Far better to start from scratch. How so? If they had started from scratch it would just been a rehash of plot threads from the prequel films. Well, for one you have a confusing timeline which caused a number of inconsistencies and plotholes. For another, you'll have a number of unusable characters because they're either already dead or erased from the timeline. Characters like Wolverine, Rogue, Apocalypse, Havoc, etc. Lastly, are they going to reuse the old actors? Because if they aren't, then why even bother continuing the same storyline? There's dozens of other storylines they can adapt and that will give them more creative freedom. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 2, 2023 7:47:15 GMT
How so? If they had started from scratch it would just been a rehash of plot threads from the prequel films. Well, for one you have a confusing timeline which caused a number of inconsistencies and plotholes. For another, you'll have a number of unusable characters because they're either already dead or erased from the timeline. Characters like Wolverine, Rogue, Apocalypse, Havoc, etc. Lastly, are they going to reuse the old actors? Because if they aren't, then why even bother continuing the same storyline? There's dozens of other storylines they can adapt and that will give them more creative freedom. I don't think general audiences care too much about that as long as its entertaining. They are using Wolverine right now and Rogue is still around. Kevin Feige has also said that they don't want to reused villains outside of multiverse stories. Hence why they didn't reboot Green Goblin and Doc Ock; they want to give audience new stories. Nor do they want to reused characters like Mary Jane; so I doubt they care about Havok. It looks like they are going use the old actors. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 2, 2023 12:13:57 GMT
I'm kinda hoping that they're continuing from the new timeline setup at the end of Days of Future past.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 2, 2023 18:46:53 GMT
Disney supposedly has to use the Fox actors in said roles until a certain year. Forget which year so they can't recast them and do a reboot until then. From what I have read they're bringing in some of the Fox characters for the Secret Wars film where I imagine most of them will be killed off much like Charles Xavier and Reed Richards were in Dr Strange 2. Then we will see the reboot of characters like we are seeing with Fantastic Four. The source of that claim comes from Devin Faraci, a sex offender who has spread lies about Marvel Studios in the past. So there is no reason to trust his word. His claim has also easy to disprove. The X-Men were recast in the prequel films and the TV shows (Legion and Gifted), which was co-produced by Marvel. So what he claims literally makes no sense. Not to mention, Reed Richards was recast in Multiverse of Madness. Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s not how movie contracts work. They’re reusing the Fox actors for the sake of nostalgia. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 2, 2023 22:26:32 GMT
I don't think it's necessarily the exact same FoX-Men universe, just the same actors playing variants of the characters. It is according to Shawn Levy and Kevin Feige. Source? I'd like to see it |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 2, 2023 22:43:41 GMT
The source of that claim comes from Devin Faraci, a sex offender who has spread lies about Marvel Studios in the past. So there is no reason to trust his word. His claim has also easy to disprove. The X-Men were recast in the prequel films and the TV shows (Legion and Gifted), which was co-produced by Marvel. So what he claims literally makes no sense. Not to mention, Reed Richards was recast in Multiverse of Madness. Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s not how movie contracts work. They’re reusing the Fox actors for the sake of nostalgia. Marvel is also bringing back the 90s animated series. So it is definitely for nostalgia/profit. Not to mention Kevin Feige is friends with the original X-Men cast |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 2, 2023 22:49:32 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 3, 2023 12:30:12 GMT
Multiverse made all previous Marvel movies Canon in the MCU. Including Howard the Duck!
That's right! DUCK TITS IS CANON IN THE MCU!!!
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 3, 2023 16:26:51 GMT
Multiverse made all previous Marvel movies Canon in the MCU. Including Howard the Duck! That's right! DUCK TITS IS CANON IN THE MCU!!! Well, we already saw MCU Howard in Guardians so... |
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