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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 20, 2023 2:48:09 GMT
The character, or at least all of the variants we have seen of him anyway, haven't left that strong of an impression on people, his actor has been found guilty of wrongdoing and has been officially let go from the role, and the end of Loki's second season seemed like it eliminated the threat of Kang for the time being.
In my opinion, the potential of Kang has been completely wasted. They had a pretty good blueprint to follow from the comic book and as far as adaptations go the Earth's Mightiest Heroes rendition was quite good, but instead they went about him very blandly, and he's just not been any bit interesting. I think they should probably look at other, more cosmic villains to take his place, there are lot of other villains I can think of from the Marvel universe that warrant such a huge crossover event like Secret Wars.
Too bad they missed the opportunity to present different actors playing Kang variants - it is a bit perplexing, given they allowed it to happen with Loki and Spider-Man as well as Spider-Man's cast of characters.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 20, 2023 13:10:36 GMT
They can still use him, but not for a while. Move on to something else and cycle back to a Kang storyline at some point in the future.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 20, 2023 13:32:30 GMT
Well, he's never really been that terribly interesting a character in the comics either.
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 21, 2023 18:58:22 GMT
They laid so much groundwork for Kang and the Multiversal War that it would be a shame to abandon it. One drawback from using Kang is the lack of stakes; if you kill one variant, there's always several more variants. I'm still interested in seeing the fallout, but the writing needs to feel more interconnected.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 21, 2023 21:56:08 GMT
I haven't even seen Ant-Man 3 but there seemed to be a lot of hype for Kang and Majors' performance, so I don't really know what you're talking about with him being bland and the audience indifferent. In any case, is there any actual reason they can't do "different varients" of him other than they haven't already?
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Post by Sam Raimi on Dec 22, 2023 6:34:38 GMT
They should at least pay it off. People only seem to be retroactively souring on the character because of Majors’ conviction.
The problem is that the multiverse rules and mythology are a complete mess. I defy anyone to explain what Kang’s motives are in Ant Man 3 or how the flying fuck a “sacred timeline” consists of a multiverse with variants so diverse they include crocodiles. It’s a disaster
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 22, 2023 12:48:24 GMT
They should at least pay it off. People only seem to be retroactively souring on the character because of Majors’ conviction. The problem is that the multiverse rules and mythology are a complete mess. I defy anyone to explain what Kang’s motives are in Ant Man 3 or how the flying fuck a “sacred timeline” consists of a multiverse with variants so diverse they include crocodiles. It’s a disaster Kang in Ant-Man 3 wanted to repair his technology so he could leave the Quantum Realm and star warring with other Kangs again, and if you paid attention the crocodile variants were the only survivors of destroyed timelines that no longer existed. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 23, 2023 4:56:15 GMT
They should at least pay it off. People only seem to be retroactively souring on the character because of Majors’ conviction. The problem is that the multiverse rules and mythology are a complete mess. I defy anyone to explain what Kang’s motives are in Ant Man 3 or how the flying fuck a “sacred timeline” consists of a multiverse with variants so diverse they include crocodiles. It’s a disaster Yeah I like the MCU so I tend to give them a pass on the details, but you're not wrong. Time travel/multiverse travel has been explained differently in like five different films, and I don't understand how there's a multiverse at all if the TVA was ensuring the 'sacred timeline' was intact the entire time. Why is there an entire stadium filled with Kang variants all played by Majors, yet three different Spider-Men exist in this multiverse, along with four-legged Loki variants? |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 24, 2023 18:29:09 GMT
Yeah, keep it going. I don't think the actor mattered much to this character as many ppl were hoping anyways. The multiverse angle is entirely a baked in off-ramp to re-cast, & no one will care much because the stakes have forever felt far less appealing than Thanos.
The payoff horizon right now is X-Men & Fantastic Four being embedded in the MCU, not how or what Kang does. Hell, make Kang a 13yr old girl, or 83yr old man, who cares.
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Post by Sam Raimi on Dec 24, 2023 19:34:19 GMT
They should at least pay it off. People only seem to be retroactively souring on the character because of Majors’ conviction. The problem is that the multiverse rules and mythology are a complete mess. I defy anyone to explain what Kang’s motives are in Ant Man 3 or how the flying fuck a “sacred timeline” consists of a multiverse with variants so diverse they include crocodiles. It’s a disaster Kang in Ant-Man 3 wanted to repair his technology so he could leave the Quantum Realm and star warring with other Kangs again, and if you paid attention the crocodile variants were the only survivors of destroyed timelines that no longer existed. Start warring with them… why? What’s his motivation? Why does he need to be stopped? How did a timeline exist at all that has a Loki crocodile if there’s a sacred timeline? |
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Post by Sam Raimi on Dec 24, 2023 19:36:46 GMT
They should at least pay it off. People only seem to be retroactively souring on the character because of Majors’ conviction. The problem is that the multiverse rules and mythology are a complete mess. I defy anyone to explain what Kang’s motives are in Ant Man 3 or how the flying fuck a “sacred timeline” consists of a multiverse with variants so diverse they include crocodiles. It’s a disaster Yeah I like the MCU so I tend to give them a pass on the details, but you're not wrong. Time travel/multiverse travel has been explained differently in like five different films, and I don't understand how there's a multiverse at all if the TVA was ensuring the 'sacred timeline' was intact the entire time.  Why is there an entire stadium filled with Kang variants all played by Majors, yet three different Spider-Men exist in this multiverse, along with four-legged Loki variants?  I can go along with about half of it. I actually think Dr Strange 2 did an excellent job. No Way Home just exists to allow the gimmick of the three actors to come together but it’s straight forward enough to fit in even though it kind of cheapens the world building. Really it’s Loki and Ant man that made a complete convoluted mess of things. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 25, 2023 15:26:53 GMT
Kang in Ant-Man 3 wanted to repair his technology so he could leave the Quantum Realm and star warring with other Kangs again, and if you paid attention the crocodile variants were the only survivors of destroyed timelines that no longer existed. Start warring with them… why? What’s his motivation? Why does he need to be stopped? How did a timeline exist at all that has a Loki crocodile if there’s a sacred timeline? The idea is that multiple timelines cannot peacefully co-exist and conflict is inevitable, and Kang is the living embodiment of that idea. That Variants are destined to battle each other.
The "Sacred" Timeline is just the name that the Supreme Kang gave his own timeline. He won, so he declared his timeline as the "proper" one.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 25, 2023 20:45:47 GMT
They honestly should. Also it was dumb of them to only use Majors as multiple Kang variants.
We got Toby and Andrew as Spider-Man variants not to mention the different Loki variants in the Loki series, one which was a crocodile, so there is no real reason as to why Majors had to play the role exclusively.
Just cast a new Kang variant and make him the main kang threat going forward, hell Major's Kang death in Ant-Man 3 was a blessing in a way.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 26, 2023 20:26:51 GMT
They honestly should. Also it was dumb of them to only use Majors as multiple Kang variants. We got Toby and Andrew as Spider-Man variants not to mention the different Loki variants in the Loki series, one which was a crocodile, so there is no real reason as to why Majors had to play the role exclusively. Just cast a new Kang variant and make him the main kang threat going forward, hell Major's Kang death in Ant-Man 3 was a blessing in a way. I never thought that Kang died, I thought he just got sucked into another dimension or whatever that device did. Anyway I heard a rumor that Majors had it in his contract that only he could play Kang. No idea if it's true, but it would explain why they didn't just cut bait on this guy a long time ago, or at the very least explain the scene where every kang variant was played by Majors. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 26, 2023 20:48:58 GMT
Scooper MyTimeToShineHello says that they will bring in The Beyonder to justify a recasting of Kang.
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