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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 27, 2024 1:07:02 GMT
This comes in light of Brie Larson's response to a question at the end of a carpet interview where she told the interviewer that she doesn't have an answer to when and where the next time she will show up as Carol Danvers in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. (It can be assumed the next and perhaps final time will be in either of the upcoming Avengers installments)
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Feb 27, 2024 13:39:18 GMT
This shouldn't shock anyone considering how hard The Marvels flopped, even though I really enjoyed it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 27, 2024 17:29:33 GMT
Reboot!
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Post by Shane Falco on Feb 27, 2024 21:37:20 GMT
At this point the only thing that would get me excited to watch another Captain Marvel movie would be having Rogue as the villain or at least having her in it. The first film to me was so very bland and the second one I just have zero interest in watching and it seems like that may be the correct choice. I cant attest to Brie Larson as an actress as I've only seen her in two films and one was Scott Pilgrim and I dont think she had a very big role. She just doesn't have the charisma to carry a Marvel film to me. Actors like Downey, Evans, and Hemsworth bring/brought so much charisma and personality to characters that I never had interest in. They can carry their solo films. Brie as Captain Marvel doesn't have that and she seems best used as a supporting character in an Avengers film imo.
I hope Marvel does a better job casting the females going forward because for the most part all of them just come off as bland with no personality to them what so ever. Im talking characters like Widow, Wanda, Pepper, Jane, Danvers. Or at least give them better writing. The ones I like are Valkrie (she was electric in Ragnarok not so much in Love and Thunder but that film was ass), Shiri, Nebula, MJ, Gamora. Gamora I will say is mostly just because I'm a fan of Zoe. So I hope Vanessa Kirby does well as Sue however im not really familiar with her work to have expectations. Id hate for them to screw up Rogue when XMen comes along.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 28, 2024 13:05:59 GMT
I hope Marvel does a better job casting the females going forward because for the most part all of them just come off as bland with no personality to them what so ever. Im talking characters like Widow, Wanda, Pepper, Jane, Danvers. Or at least give them better writing. The ones I like are Valkrie (she was electric in Ragnarok not so much in Love and Thunder but that film was ass), Shiri, Nebula, MJ, Gamora. Gamora I will say is mostly just because I'm a fan of Zoe. So I hope Vanessa Kirby does well as Sue however im not really familiar with her work to have expectations. Id hate for them to screw up Rogue when XMen comes along. Completely agree. I didn't hate any of the casting decisions, but they could've done better. Widow needed more of an edge than ScarJo gave her, and Brie just doesn't have the commanding presence Carol needs to have. The women of GOTG were all excellent in their roles. I was disappointed in Valkyrie, though. The Val that I know from the comics back in the day was more of the stoic warrior type, and they made her into just another clown, like every other character in the Thor franchise. I was never a huge FF or X-Men fan, so I don't have particular expectations for those characters.
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Post by Shane Falco on Feb 28, 2024 21:17:15 GMT
I hope Marvel does a better job casting the females going forward because for the most part all of them just come off as bland with no personality to them what so ever. Im talking characters like Widow, Wanda, Pepper, Jane, Danvers. Or at least give them better writing. The ones I like are Valkrie (she was electric in Ragnarok not so much in Love and Thunder but that film was ass), Shiri, Nebula, MJ, Gamora. Gamora I will say is mostly just because I'm a fan of Zoe. So I hope Vanessa Kirby does well as Sue however im not really familiar with her work to have expectations. Id hate for them to screw up Rogue when XMen comes along. Completely agree. I didn't hate any of the casting decisions, but they could've done better. Widow needed more of an edge than ScarJo gave her, and Brie just doesn't have the commanding presence Carol needs to have. The women of GOTG were all excellent in their roles. I was disappointed in Valkyrie, though. The Val that I know from the comics back in the day was more of the stoic warrior type, and they made her into just another clown, like every other character in the Thor franchise. I was never a huge FF or X-Men fan, so I don't have particular expectations for those characters. I can't attest to most of these characters in terms of their comic origins outside of Spiderman or XMen as those were the ones I'd read growing up. So characters like Iron Man or Thor I never cared for until these movies and Downey and Hemsworth made me love them. I expect the same thing for a character like Danvers and Brie just doesn't do that for me nor does most of the female characters. They lack a certain it factor that I attribute to charisma in the role. Valkrie again I never was aware of her in the comics so had no expectations but she had a personality to her and was so different than the other female MCU characters to me so she really stood out. That said, she was only good in Ragnarok, not so much Love and Thunder. I heard she is in The Marvels but again it seems like this is a film ill just skip in general. I'm worried that marvel will have the same issue with casting Jean Grey. She is such a bland character outside of the Phoenix saga but in order for viewers to care about her during the Phoenix stuff you gotta care about her first. They need to hit that casting out of the park with somebody that makes you care about them like Downey or Hemsworth did for me.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 5, 2024 20:15:58 GMT
At this point the only thing that would get me excited to watch another Captain Marvel movie would be having Rogue as the villain or at least having her in it. The first film to me was so very bland and the second one I just have zero interest in watching and it seems like that may be the correct choice. I cant attest to Brie Larson as an actress as I've only seen her in two films and one was Scott Pilgrim and I dont think she had a very big role. She just doesn't have the charisma to carry a Marvel film to me. Actors like Downey, Evans, and Hemsworth bring/brought so much charisma and personality to characters that I never had interest in. They can carry their solo films. Brie as Captain Marvel doesn't have that and she seems best used as a supporting character in an Avengers film imo. I hope Marvel does a better job casting the females going forward because for the most part all of them just come off as bland with no personality to them what so ever. Im talking characters like Widow, Wanda, Pepper, Jane, Danvers. Or at least give them better writing. The ones I like are Valkrie (she was electric in Ragnarok not so much in Love and Thunder but that film was ass), Shiri, Nebula, MJ, Gamora. Gamora I will say is mostly just because I'm a fan of Zoe. So I hope Vanessa Kirby does well as Sue however im not really familiar with her work to have expectations. Id hate for them to screw up Rogue when XMen comes along. The amount of people who want to see Carol basically get raped on screen really astounds me sometimes.
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Post by Shane Falco on Mar 5, 2024 21:23:13 GMT
At this point the only thing that would get me excited to watch another Captain Marvel movie would be having Rogue as the villain or at least having her in it. The first film to me was so very bland and the second one I just have zero interest in watching and it seems like that may be the correct choice. I cant attest to Brie Larson as an actress as I've only seen her in two films and one was Scott Pilgrim and I dont think she had a very big role. She just doesn't have the charisma to carry a Marvel film to me. Actors like Downey, Evans, and Hemsworth bring/brought so much charisma and personality to characters that I never had interest in. They can carry their solo films. Brie as Captain Marvel doesn't have that and she seems best used as a supporting character in an Avengers film imo. I hope Marvel does a better job casting the females going forward because for the most part all of them just come off as bland with no personality to them what so ever. Im talking characters like Widow, Wanda, Pepper, Jane, Danvers. Or at least give them better writing. The ones I like are Valkrie (she was electric in Ragnarok not so much in Love and Thunder but that film was ass), Shiri, Nebula, MJ, Gamora. Gamora I will say is mostly just because I'm a fan of Zoe. So I hope Vanessa Kirby does well as Sue however im not really familiar with her work to have expectations. Id hate for them to screw up Rogue when XMen comes along. The amount of people who want to see Carol basically get raped on screen really astounds me sometimes. Wtf? I never said anything about that. Im referring to taking her powers and nothing more.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 6, 2024 6:02:01 GMT
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Post by darkpast on Mar 9, 2024 8:40:43 GMT
i liked Captain Marvel very much, The Marvels was horrible, so unless we get a good director , no
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 9, 2024 20:27:33 GMT
There is a lot we won’t be getting, and maybe even completed products which may get Batgirled. Just my guess.
Disney really screwed up, well and truly. The MCU brand is in the toilet. They do not want any more embarrassing, costly flops.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 15, 2024 20:40:32 GMT
The amount of people who want to see Carol basically get raped on screen really astounds me sometimes. Wtf? I never said anything about that. Im referring to taking her powers and nothing more. What Rogue did to Carol was rape, it's sick that people want to see that.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 15, 2024 20:41:12 GMT
There is a lot we won’t be getting, and maybe even completed products which may get Batgirled. Just my guess. Disney really screwed up, well and truly. The MCU brand is in the toilet. They do not want any more embarrassing, costly flops. I love how fickle you are, they have one failure which quickly got vindicated on streaming meaning it was external factors that caused the theatrical failure and you're all "it's in the toilet!"
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Mar 15, 2024 20:44:32 GMT
There is a lot we won’t be getting, and maybe even completed products which may get Batgirled. Just my guess. Disney really screwed up, well and truly. The MCU brand is in the toilet. They do not want any more embarrassing, costly flops. I love how fickle you are, they have one failure which quickly got vindicated on streaming meaning it was external factors that caused the theatrical failure and you're all "it's in the toilet!" Well in his defense, he's never really had anything good to say about the MCU and has always been a bargain basement troll.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 19, 2024 16:49:14 GMT
Wtf? I never said anything about that. Im referring to taking her powers and nothing more. What Rogue did to Carol was rape, it's sick that people want to see that. If they make it consensual, can we start fancasting now?
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 25, 2024 10:36:18 GMT
Wtf? I never said anything about that. Im referring to taking her powers and nothing more. What Rogue did to Carol was rape, it's sick that people want to see that. I think that's a bit of a stretch. At best you could say it's similar to rape in that it was invasive and traumatic, but it was also dissimilar in that there was nothing sexual to it. The comics also did not make out it was like rape or that Carol considered herself raped by Rogue. It was a big story in Carol's past with her losing her powers and much of her personality and having to rebuild herself physically and mentally and emerge stronger from it, and I think it's that aspect fans want to see in a movie, rather than wanting some sort of perverted enjoyment from her suffering.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 25, 2024 11:51:40 GMT
What Rogue did to Carol was rape, it's sick that people want to see that. I think that's a bit of a stretch. At best you could say it's similar to rape in that it was invasive and traumatic, but it was also dissimilar in that there was nothing sexual to it. The comics also did not make out it was like rape or that Carol considered herself raped by Rogue. It was a big story in Carol's past with her losing her powers and much of her personality and having to rebuild herself physically and mentally and emerge stronger from it, and I think it's that aspect fans want to see in a movie, rather than wanting some sort of perverted enjoyment from her suffering. Ironically, Carol was once raped by her own son in order to impregnant her with himself. This actually happened. I don't think we need to revisit that storyline.
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 25, 2024 14:35:59 GMT
I think that's a bit of a stretch. At best you could say it's similar to rape in that it was invasive and traumatic, but it was also dissimilar in that there was nothing sexual to it. The comics also did not make out it was like rape or that Carol considered herself raped by Rogue. It was a big story in Carol's past with her losing her powers and much of her personality and having to rebuild herself physically and mentally and emerge stronger from it, and I think it's that aspect fans want to see in a movie, rather than wanting some sort of perverted enjoyment from her suffering. Ironically, Carol was once raped by her own son in order to impregnant her with himself. Bloody hell!
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 28, 2024 16:47:07 GMT
What Rogue did to Carol was rape, it's sick that people want to see that. I think that's a bit of a stretch. At best you could say it's similar to rape in that it was invasive and traumatic, but it was also dissimilar in that there was nothing sexual to it. The comics also did not make out it was like rape or that Carol considered herself raped by Rogue. It was a big story in Carol's past with her losing her powers and much of her personality and having to rebuild herself physically and mentally and emerge stronger from it, and I think it's that aspect fans want to see in a movie, rather than wanting some sort of perverted enjoyment from her suffering. Of course the comics never pointed out how invasive and deeply violating it was, because then it would be impossible to see Rogue as a heroic character. Doesn't change what it was.
What Rogue did to Carol was the beginning of 30 years of terrible writing that made Carol a punching bag by incompetent writers until she was revived as Captain Marvel in 2012. The only reason fans want to see it is because they want Rogue to get powers and to see Carol destroyed forever and to never return, that's all there is to it.
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 28, 2024 20:12:55 GMT
The only reason fans want to see it is because they want Rogue to get powers and to see Carol destroyed forever and to never return, that's all there is to it. I dunno, maybe you're right about some, but it's a story I wouldn't mind seeing and I really like both Captain Marvel films and am a fan of Carol in the comics. I assume I'm not alone.
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