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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 20, 2024 15:51:33 GMT
I don't think they like him very much or are scared of him , including his own mother . It's not a matter of people liking him though. It's that since he's the Regent now he's strategically too valuable to deploy in battle. If they lose him and Vhagar right after losing Aegon and Sunfyre, people who aren't committed to the Greens on principle alone are gonna start to jump ship because the other side 1) has more dragons and 2) if Aegon dies, will have better Targaryen claimants to the throne. I suppose I'm too naive for battles, but I tend to think more politically. It might have been better for him if he weren't such a hothead. He literally initiated all of this by going after his cousin Luke. Granted, he did seem sorrowful about it, but he makes too many poor decisions. I think he's very much like his Uncle Daemon; they both possess those wild/mad Targaryen genes.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 20, 2024 15:56:57 GMT
I found this episode somewhat dull, but episode 6 seems very promising. Will there be 8 or 10 episodes this season? 8 episodes. I haven't seen this one yet but I don't think any of it is interesting. The secret meeting at the Sept was the worst thing ever. This is so written for idiots it's painful. I had a laugh when the stupid lizard fell on top of the castle's whisky storage room and it all went up. What a waste ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/m1dg20al5/biggrin.gif) I must admit, I can't keep up with all these dragons; they all look the same to me, except for Daemons, because the neck of the dragon has a long, odd shape like a snake. And then we have Aemond's dragon, Vhagar? He is enormous; the rest all seem the same to me, lol.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 20, 2024 16:03:45 GMT
I found this episode somewhat dull, but episode 6 seems very promising. Will there be 8 or 10 episodes this season? Agreed...but I don't think they can all be bangers. I think more importantly Im just not that interested in what Daemon is up to at the moment. He feels like he's just spinning wheels in Harrenhall. Combining that with Rhaenyra and Allicent both feeling a lack of agency and its just hard to get all that interested in a lot of the behind the scenes conversations. Allicents is the more interesting angle tho now that she truly sees Aemond in this light. I like the slow build showing the peasants in Kings Landing growing discontent. But there doesn't feel like much else to grab onto this episode. Now that you've mentioned Daemon, the woman accompanying him is quite peculiar; is she intended to be a Melisandre-like figure or a witch? She foretold Daemon's death at that location. And yes, this is the same place where Catelyn Stark's sister lived and was murdered by Littlefinger ? Regarding the flashbacks, Daemon's interactions with a younger Rhaenyra had a chemistry that I found more compelling. No disrespect to the current, older portrayals of Rhaenyra or Alicent, but casting different actresses for these roles was a significant error, in my opinion. I have my own thoughts on why this was done, which I prefer not to share publicly. Nevertheless, the return of the actress who originally played Rhaenyra suggests that the show's creators may share this sentiment, but it's too late for changes now. With today's makeup and technology, the younger actresses could have convincingly played the older versions.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 20, 2024 22:02:02 GMT
Agreed...but I don't think they can all be bangers. I think more importantly Im just not that interested in what Daemon is up to at the moment. He feels like he's just spinning wheels in Harrenhall. Combining that with Rhaenyra and Allicent both feeling a lack of agency and its just hard to get all that interested in a lot of the behind the scenes conversations. Allicents is the more interesting angle tho now that she truly sees Aemond in this light. I like the slow build showing the peasants in Kings Landing growing discontent. But there doesn't feel like much else to grab onto this episode. Now that you've mentioned Daemon, the woman accompanying him is quite peculiar; is she intended to be a Melisandre-like figure or a witch? She foretold Daemon's death at that location. And yes, this is the same place where Catelyn Stark's sister lived and was murdered by Littlefinger ? Regarding the flashbacks, Daemon's interactions with a younger Rhaenyra had a chemistry that I found more compelling. No disrespect to the current, older portrayals of Rhaenyra or Alicent, but casting different actresses for these roles was a significant error, in my opinion. I have my own thoughts on why this was done, which I prefer not to share publicly. Nevertheless, the return of the actress who originally played Rhaenyra suggests that the show's creators may share this sentiment, but it's too late for changes now. With today's makeup and technology, the younger actresses could have convincingly played the older versions. Littlefinger killed Lysa in the Eyrie, Daemon is in Harrenhal. And what's this saucy take about recast Rhae you "won't share publicly"? I do agree young Rhae was more compelling to watch, both from a writing and acting standpoint. No offense to D'Arcy, who has her moments (especially the s2 premiere) but their screen presence is kinda vanilla. Alcock was so charismatic and unique looking.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 21, 2024 4:49:04 GMT
Regarding the flashbacks, Daemon's interactions with a younger Rhaenyra had a chemistry that I found more compelling. No disrespect to the current, older portrayals of Rhaenyra or Alicent, but casting different actresses for these roles was a significant error, in my opinion. There was a 10 year time jump and we get significantly more mature persons in both. Alicent lost her naive finger scratching anxiety, Rhaenyra lost her adventurous playfulness. It's not just different actresses, they are written differently and if I have a complaint, it would be for keeping Alicent looking way too young for the role. Rhaenyra has lost all charm and attractiveness. She has turned into a dumber, sententious version of Rhaenys talking down to everyone with a "know better when I'm wrong" attitude that makes her instantly unlikable to all but the idiots who decided to side with her in the very first episode (they're Daenerys fans, remember?). It may seem a mistake to make a main character work this way on the audience but that is exactly where the story is going: Rhaenyra will keep losing support until she falls. Daemon seeing young Rhaenyra instead of the present one makes clear that the girl he once loved is not the woman he has married and we are supposed to feel the same. That's why he is playing king at Harrenhal. That last conversation they had was a divorce.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 21, 2024 19:42:50 GMT
Now that you've mentioned Daemon, the woman accompanying him is quite peculiar; is she intended to be a Melisandre-like figure or a witch? She foretold Daemon's death at that location. And yes, this is the same place where Catelyn Stark's sister lived and was murdered by Littlefinger ? Regarding the flashbacks, Daemon's interactions with a younger Rhaenyra had a chemistry that I found more compelling. No disrespect to the current, older portrayals of Rhaenyra or Alicent, but casting different actresses for these roles was a significant error, in my opinion. I have my own thoughts on why this was done, which I prefer not to share publicly. Nevertheless, the return of the actress who originally played Rhaenyra suggests that the show's creators may share this sentiment, but it's too late for changes now. With today's makeup and technology, the younger actresses could have convincingly played the older versions. Littlefinger killed Lysa in the Eyrie, Daemon is in Harrenhal. And what's this soucy the about recast Rhae you "wint share publicly"? I do agree young Rhae was more compelling to watch, both from a writing and acting standpoint. No offense to D'Arcy, who has her moments (especially the s2 premiere) but their screen presence is kinda vanilla. Alcock was so charismatic and unique looking. I was hesitant to share publicly because I didn't want to offend anyone, as people can be easily offended, but I believe the actress expressed it best in her own statement that Since House of the Dragon premiered in 2022, D'Arcy has been candid about how their nonbinary identity influences their portrayal of Rhaenyra, a woman constantly challenged by the men around her.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 21, 2024 19:45:12 GMT
Regarding the flashbacks, Daemon's interactions with a younger Rhaenyra had a chemistry that I found more compelling. No disrespect to the current, older portrayals of Rhaenyra or Alicent, but casting different actresses for these roles was a significant error, in my opinion. There was a 10 year time jump and we get significantly more mature persons in both. Alicent lost her naive finger scratching anxiety, Rhaenyra lost her adventurous playfulness. It's not just different actresses, they are written differently and if I have a complaint, it would be for keeping Alicent looking way too young for the role. Rhaenyra has lost all charm and attractiveness. She has turned into a dumber, sententious version of Rhaenys talking down to everyone with a "know better when I'm wrong" attitude that makes her instantly unlikable to all but the idiots who decided to side with her in the very first episode (they're Daenerys fans, remember?). It may seem a mistake to make a main character work this way on the audience but that is exactly where the story is going: Rhaenyra will keep losing support until she falls. Daemon seeing young Rhaenyra instead of the present one makes clear that the girl he once loved is not the woman he has married and we are supposed to feel the same. That's why he is playing king at Harrenhal. That last conversation they had was a divorce. Well said, it makes sense, Leo. The way you've laid it out is clear.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 21, 2024 20:02:49 GMT
Littlefinger killed Lysa in the Eyrie, Daemon is in Harrenhal. And what's this soucy the about recast Rhae you "wint share publicly"? I do agree young Rhae was more compelling to watch, both from a writing and acting standpoint. No offense to D'Arcy, who has her moments (especially the s2 premiere) but their screen presence is kinda vanilla. Alcock was so charismatic and unique looking. I was hesitant to share publicly because I didn't want to offend anyone, as people can be easily offended, but I believe the actress expressed it best in her own statement that Since House of the Dragon premiered in 2022, D'Arcy has been candid about how their nonbinary identity influences their portrayal of Rhaenyra, a woman constantly challenged by the men around her.I don't really agree she was recast just to get a NB on the show. For one, they could have just cast an NB as young Rhae in the first place. For two, the show really leans into Rhae being a woman and that being the source of her being prejudiced against. They could easily have her going "I don't identify as that!" but they don't. I also didn't even know D'Arcy was NB until looking them up.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 23, 2024 17:36:52 GMT
Poor thing is still here in Ep. 5: ![](https://i.imgur.com/tnQqjzm.jpeg)
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 6, 2024 6:39:06 GMT
"I'm so bored. This is so boring. Daemon has been here too long, nothing is happening. I'm so bored"
And it was only Ep. 5.
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Post by Morgana on Aug 6, 2024 17:13:04 GMT
Littlefinger killed Lysa in the Eyrie, Daemon is in Harrenhal. And what's this soucy the about recast Rhae you "wint share publicly"? I do agree young Rhae was more compelling to watch, both from a writing and acting standpoint. No offense to D'Arcy, who has her moments (especially the s2 premiere) but their screen presence is kinda vanilla. Alcock was so charismatic and unique looking. I was hesitant to share publicly because I didn't want to offend anyone, as people can be easily offended, but I believe the actress expressed it best in her own statement that Since House of the Dragon premiered in 2022, D'Arcy has been candid about how their nonbinary identity influences their portrayal of Rhaenyra, a woman constantly challenged by the men around her.It was her decision -trying to make a statement - to put the Rhaenya/what's her name, same-sex kiss in the episode, which served no purpose and hasn't been repeated again so it makes no sense at all.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 6, 2024 21:19:59 GMT
I was hesitant to share publicly because I didn't want to offend anyone, as people can be easily offended, but I believe the actress expressed it best in her own statement that Since House of the Dragon premiered in 2022, D'Arcy has been candid about how their nonbinary identity influences their portrayal of Rhaenyra, a woman constantly challenged by the men around her.It was her decision -trying to make a statement - to put the Rhaenya/what's her name, same-sex kiss in the episode, which served no purpose and hasn't been repeated again so it makes no sense at all. I agree and that's the stuff that a lot of fans are sick of .
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