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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 1:11:41 GMT
Can't seem to find out exactly how low budget this is, other than they raised $82k on a crowdfunding site.
Whatever the amount, the result is awesome. Big Lovecraft influence, and solid old-school creature effects and makeup. It's a deliberate homage to those 80s gorefests like ReAnimator.
The story and creepy hospital setting are good. They got a lot of mileage out of it. Cast is hit and miss, but can't expect everything on a low budget.
7/10
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jun 8, 2017 2:03:28 GMT
Good one. Loved the practical effects. 7/10 from me too.
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Post by lostinlimbo on Jun 8, 2017 13:27:58 GMT
Outstanding practical effects, and grim atmospherics, other than that, while watchable, I couldn't help but feel a real disconnect with its patchwork narrative and characters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 0:25:57 GMT
Outstanding practical effects, and grim atmospherics, other than that, while watchable, I couldn't help but feel a real disconnect with its patchwork narrative and characters. Yeah, there was something not quite there with it. It didn't help that the dvd didn't have subtitles and I had trouble understanding some of the dialogue.
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Post by xystophoros on Feb 27, 2018 3:56:20 GMT
Great monsters, great bad guy, some truly eerie moments -- the positives definitely outweighed the negatives.
The KKK-looking guys seemed to have a much bigger role, and then we find out they're merely cultists of the big bad, and they're there to keep the victims hunkered down inside the hospital. Plus, let's be honest here, who wouldn't be freaked out to look through the window and see 50 or 60 guys in white robes with black triangles on their faces, not moving or doing anything but facing you and staring?
The part that was confusing, at least for me, was the relationship between the douchey guy and the young guy. The former saved the latter from being killed by meth heads, but I don't think we were told why or how they knew each other.
Also, +1 on the Lovecraft comment. Definitely a big influence here, particularly with the cult and their otherworldly ritual.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Feb 27, 2018 15:02:39 GMT
I found it a bit disappointing. It's got so many things I love as disparate elements like great practical effects, Lovecraftian dimensional shifts, weird cult members, and expansive ideas thrust upon character unprepared for them. That's all good stuff. Unfortunately for me it never quite came together cohesively or with enough characterization for me to care about that much. Which is all ok, it wasn't terrible or anything, it was just lacking as considering there were so many great elements.. And the ending, with effects that didn't match the rest of the movie, felt very out of place.
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Post by Flynn on Feb 28, 2018 4:13:37 GMT
I like the general anti-siege premise where a bunch of guys in robes aren't trying to get in but keep them from getting out, but the further the film goes along the less invested I felt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 4:42:58 GMT
I love the practical effects, horror, cosmic elements, atmosphere etc...I just wish they spent as much effort on the script.
6/10.
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Post by poelzig on Feb 28, 2018 5:06:10 GMT
I liked it while I was watching it but the plot was confusing and now I don't remember anything about it.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 28, 2018 5:30:59 GMT
Great practical effects, not much else.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Feb 28, 2018 15:54:34 GMT
Great practical effects, not much else. That's enough for a 7/10? I ended up giving it a 5, I think. I felt it was just average, even though the practical effects could have won me over. Maybe if I see it again I would bump it up.
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Post by xystophoros on Mar 4, 2018 21:21:19 GMT
Great practical effects, not much else. That's enough for a 7/10? I ended up giving it a 5, I think. I felt it was just average, even though the practical effects could have won me over. Maybe if I see it again I would bump it up. Horror seems to operate on its own scale system. How else to explain that Cabin Fever is supposedly “legendary” or that any Eli Roth film is considered good? The dude is lauded in horror circles as if he’s Ridley Scott. Same deal with guys like Rob Zombie. Entire careers have been launched on the backs of shitty films.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Mar 9, 2018 19:12:31 GMT
That's enough for a 7/10? I ended up giving it a 5, I think. I felt it was just average, even though the practical effects could have won me over. Maybe if I see it again I would bump it up. Horror seems to operate on its own scale system. How else to explain that Cabin Fever is supposedly “legendary” or that any Eli Roth film is considered good? The dude is lauded in horror circles as if he’s Ridley Scott. Same deal with guys like Rob Zombie. Entire careers have been launched on the backs of shitty films. True, but it's understandable. When you're a horror fan you watch a lot of garbage, it just comes with the territory, so even the mediocre can stand out. I certainly get how they sort of overrating happens, but I try to keep a level head.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 9, 2018 19:21:53 GMT
Horror seems to operate on its own scale system. How else to explain that Cabin Fever is supposedly “legendary” or that any Eli Roth film is considered good? The dude is lauded in horror circles as if he’s Ridley Scott. Same deal with guys like Rob Zombie. Entire careers have been launched on the backs of shitty films. Maybe but there are also a lot of artificial boosters as in paid media hacks who will gush about something or someone. Among regular movie watchers how many who praise Roth or Zombie actually like their films and can articulate why? Horror used to be the most democratic of genres because it was the cheapest to make and thus lowest common denominator. But like the rest, especially after Blair Witch, it became as corporate as science fiction and fantasy.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Mar 9, 2018 20:31:43 GMT
Horror seems to operate on its own scale system. How else to explain that Cabin Fever is supposedly “legendary” or that any Eli Roth film is considered good? The dude is lauded in horror circles as if he’s Ridley Scott. Same deal with guys like Rob Zombie. Entire careers have been launched on the backs of shitty films. Maybe but there are also a lot of artificial boosters as in paid media hacks who will gush about something or someone. Among regular movie watchers how many who praise Roth or Zombie actually like their films and can articulate why? Horror used to be the most democratic of genres because it was the cheapest to make and thus lowest common denominator. But like the rest, especially after Blair Witch, it became as corporate as science fiction and fantasy. I don't buy that. Horror Is as diverse as ever, in terms of levels of production. There are countless independent horror films each year, and many more cheap ones for every studio production. This is as good and as bad as it ever has been too. Every amateur thinks a horror movie is the way to start so you get tons of horrible movies made on shoe string budgets, and every once in a while you see something good or great. But because we as horror fans have to sift through lots of terribly made bullshit to find a gem, we end up propping up lesser films because they are better than what we may be used to. But just because there are high budgets and studios behind some horror movies doesn't mean that the cheap ones are all gone. There's a lot of material out there. Almost certainly more than ever before.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 9, 2018 20:41:05 GMT
I don't buy that. Horror Is as diverse as ever, in terms of levels of production. There are countless independent horror films each year, and many more cheap ones for every studio production. This is as good and as bad as it ever has been too. Every amateur thinks a horror movie is the way to start so you get tons of horrible movies made on shoe string budgets, and every once in a while you see something good or great. But because we as horror fans have to sift through lots of terribly made bullshit to find a gem, we end up propping up lesser films because they are better than what we may be used to. But just because there are high budgets and studios behind some horror movies doesn't mean that the cheap ones are all gone. There's a lot of material out there. Almost certainly more than ever before. In the 1960s you would find a lot of cheap obscure horror films with some name star (John Carradine, Lon Chaney etc). or low budget ones with more obscure supporting players (i.e. the Flesh Eaters, Deathdream). These days such equivalents are non-existent. You do have lots of low budget horror being made thanks to digital, but most of these go right down the memory hole. All the internet media and official movie channels focus on the Blumhouse or the Sy-Fy stuff. Or films that callback to the 80s. It Follows etc. It is definitely not the same landscape because the internet does not have the filters that theatrical distribution had. Anyone can put a film online-that is both good and bad.
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Post by xystophoros on Mar 9, 2018 23:18:02 GMT
Okay but why would horror become corporatized after Blair Witch? Wasn't that a cheap found footage film?
I mean, we're in a thread about a cheaply-produced horror film that was pretty awesome despite its limited budget. Look at a movie like Paranormal Activity -- three or four actors, no-names, a modern house that wouldn't be considered creepy by any stretch of the imagination, and footage shot with cheap cameras as the entire movie was "found footage."
What could be more democratizing than that?
Anyway, while it's true that some horror films are rated on a different scale than seemingly everything else, horror also suffers from derision by mainstream critics. That's why there should really be a "genre rating" and a "general rating," although I also think that critics who don't like horror to begin with really shouldn't be reviewing horror movies.
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Post by corpusvile on Mar 23, 2018 11:06:04 GMT
7/10 from me too, I wasn't overtly keen on it on a first view but much preferred & quite liked it on a revisit.
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