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Post by dividavi on Jun 8, 2017 23:01:44 GMT
The exit poll predicts Conservatives 314, Labour 266
The exit poll -- jointly commissioned by CNN affiliate ITN, the BBC and Sky News -- is projecting a hung parliament.
There are 650 seats in the House of Commons, so a majority is 326.
This is a loss of seats for Theresa May's Conservatives and a gain for Jeremy Corbyn's Labour party. Theresa May's party is 12 short of a majority.
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Post by dividavi on Jun 8, 2017 23:07:52 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 8, 2017 23:34:30 GMT
Exit polls appear to be on their arse at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 23:42:04 GMT
I expect Conservatives still to win an overall majority. Last election's exit polls had the Conservatives on 316 seats, but they actually won 331. Given that they're only 2 short of that on this exit poll, they'll either just about get to the line, or will get over the line by going into coalition with the DUP. So it's merely a case of Theresa May not winning the landslide that she was expected when calling the election. Not as bad as it could have been.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 0:19:48 GMT
At the start of this campaign the poll projections had May 20 points in the lead and likely to win a 100+ majority.
Not going to the debates was a major mistake.
Telling people that it was going to be your policy that the average family was going to be in the hold for care of the elderly to the tune of something like £120,000... that was a catastrophic mistake. I've been watching elections since Thatcher, and I honestly can't think of a single campaign that has done something so monumentally stupid.
In any case... the Tories might just scrape in with a very slender majority (the exit poll underestimated them last time around). But calling this election seems likely to go down in history as the greatest political mistake of the last thirty years or more.
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Post by sublime92 on Jun 9, 2017 0:37:56 GMT
May must've been on pcp to call for an election.
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Post by dividavi on Jun 9, 2017 0:43:24 GMT
In any case... the Tories might just scrape in with a very slender majority (the exit poll underestimated them last time around). But calling this election seems likely to go down in history as the greatest political mistake of the last thirty years or more. It seems to me that David Cameron's Brexit referendum was by far the greatest political mistake of the 21st century. He could have found some way to annul any promises he had made during the last general election. Okay, there are those who would have called him a liar (and they'd be right) but they would have called him that anyway. I rank Brexit as the second stupidest political decision of the last hundred years. The prize would go to Benito Mussolini who entered World War Two thinking it was all over and there would soon be a peace conference. Italian entry was June 10, 1944, so happy 77th anniversary. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 0:46:33 GMT
In any case... the Tories might just scrape in with a very slender majority (the exit poll underestimated them last time around). But calling this election seems likely to go down in history as the greatest political mistake of the last thirty years or more. It seems to me that David Cameron's Brexit referendum was by far the greatest political mistake of the 21st century. Well since I voted in favour of Brexit, we may disagree about that!  |
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Post by dividavi on Jun 9, 2017 0:55:10 GMT
It seems to me that David Cameron's Brexit referendum was by far the greatest political mistake of the 21st century. Well since I voted in favour of Brexit, we may disagree about that! I think David Cameron would agree with me. Brexit destroyed his career. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 0:57:07 GMT
Well since I voted in favour of Brexit, we may disagree about that! I think David Cameron would agree with me. Brexit destroyed his career. It's always something... |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jun 9, 2017 1:58:42 GMT
In any case... the Tories might just scrape in with a very slender majority (the exit poll underestimated them last time around). But calling this election seems likely to go down in history as the greatest political mistake of the last thirty years or more. It seems to me that David Cameron's Brexit referendum was by far the greatest political mistake of the 21st century. He could have found some way to annul any promises he had made during the last general election. Okay, there are those who would have called him a liar (and they'd be right) but they would have called him that anyway. I rank Brexit as the second stupidest political decision of the last hundred years. The prize would go to Benito Mussolini who entered World War Two thinking it was all over and there would soon be a peace conference. Italian entry was June 10, 1944, so happy 77th anniversary. You're only four years off. |
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 9, 2017 5:58:17 GMT
What the hell happened to UKIP?
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Jun 9, 2017 6:09:01 GMT
What the hell happened to UKIP? They're pointless now. Brexit is happening, why bother voting for them. |
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Post by PanLeo on Jun 9, 2017 10:46:06 GMT
More gains for Sf, it seems there is a united ireland in the air. I think we are closer to a UI then we ever have been. But this is a big setback for scottish nationalism so the election is a mixed bag.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 9, 2017 10:50:21 GMT
But calling this election seems likely to go down in history as the greatest political mistake of the last thirty years or more. Some can think of a bigger one, only a few months back.
She is going to the Queen shortly to try and get a government together. My guess is that there will be second election in the near future.
Better no May than a bad one.
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Post by PanLeo on Jun 9, 2017 10:51:54 GMT
But calling this election seems likely to go down in history as the greatest political mistake of the last thirty years or more. Some can think of a bigger one, only a few months back. voting in favor of being a sovreign state? youre right, shit decision. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 9, 2017 10:54:46 GMT
Some can think of a bigger one, only a few months back. voting in favor of being a sovreign state? youre right, shit decision. No, voting ourselves poorer, out of the closest big trading block, and off the top table of our own continent. |
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Post by PanLeo on Jun 9, 2017 10:58:27 GMT
voting in favor of being a sovreign state? youre right, shit decision. No, voting ourselves poorer, out of the closest big trading block, and off the top table of our own continent. Its a small price to pay for getting out of an imperialist and neoliberal bloc. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 9, 2017 11:05:32 GMT
No, voting ourselves poorer, out of the closest big trading block, and off the top table of our own continent. Its a small price to pay for getting out of an imperialist and neoliberal bloc. Yes how we hate those neo-liberals with their insistence on worker's rights, freedom of movement, financial support for neglected regions and environmental protections! And I can't wait for the EU regulations we have had no say in, being faxed over so that we can still do business with them. |
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 9, 2017 11:09:47 GMT
More gains for Sf, it seems there is a united ireland in the air. I think we are closer to a UI then we ever have been. I'm not sure I see it quite that way.
Since SF don't take seats in Westminster, them doing well doesn't give them any political power and actually gives the Tories an effective majority which they will further bolster by an alliance with DUP of all people.
In fact, by standing SF have taken seats that would have otherwise gone to the SDLP (including gifting South Belfast to the DUP since they ran a no-hoper SF candidate where it was tight between SDLP and DUP), who would have taken their seats and supported Labour over the Tories as well as campaigning for Irish nationalism. So SF doing well in Westminster is effectively a blow to both left-wing politics and Irish nationalism.
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