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Post by sdm3 on Jun 13, 2017 6:04:42 GMT
Curious as to where the 2016-17 Warriors rank.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 13, 2017 7:56:30 GMT
Curious as to where the 2016-17 Warriors rank. I would definitely rank these Warriors among the top 5 NBA teams I've seen. My top 5 NBA teams I've seen are (in chronological order):
1. 1982-83 76ers
2. 1985-86 Celtics
3. 1986-87 Lakers (the Showtime Lakers were 1 of the few teams that had plenty of All-Star caliber players (starters and bench players) to match up against the 2016-17 Warriors).
4. 1995-96 Bulls
5. 2016-17 Warriors
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 13, 2017 13:40:33 GMT
Curious as to where the 2016-17 Warriors rank. I would definitely rank these Warriors among the top 5 NBA teams I've seen. My top 5 NBA teams I've seen are (in chronological order):
1. 1982-83 76ers
2. 1985-86 Celtics
3. 1986-87 Lakers (the Showtime Lakers were 1 of the few teams that had plenty of All-Star caliber players (starters and bench players) to match up against the 2016-17 Warriors).
4. 1995-96 Bulls
5. 2016-17 Warriors
Moses Malone had to join a superteam to win a title.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 13, 2017 20:02:07 GMT
I would definitely rank these Warriors among the top 5 NBA teams I've seen. My top 5 NBA teams I've seen are (in chronological order):
1. 1982-83 76ers
2. 1985-86 Celtics
3. 1986-87 Lakers (the Showtime Lakers were 1 of the few teams that had plenty of All-Star caliber players (starters and bench players) to match up against the 2016-17 Warriors).
4. 1995-96 Bulls
5. 2016-17 Warriors
Moses Malone had to join a superteam to win a title. That's true. Moses Malone's situation was almost identical to Kevin Durant's situation. Like Durant, Malone had previously gone to the NBA Finals and lost (with the Rockets). Like Durant, Malone was a former NBA MVP. Like Durant, Malone signed with a team (the 76ers) that had just lost the NBA Finals and had plenty of talented players (e.g. Dr. J, Bobby Jones, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Toney). And like Durant, the 76ers won the NBA Championship in Malone's 1st year with the team, going 12-1 in the playoffs.
I don't remember people hating Malone for signing with the 76ers. So I don't get the hate for Kevin Durant signing with the Warriors. Durant made the right choice and now Durant not only has a championship but also has a chance to win several more championships.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 13, 2017 21:18:35 GMT
Moses Malone had to join a superteam to win a title. That's true. Moses Malone's situation was almost identical to Kevin Durant's situation. Like Durant, Malone had previously gone to the NBA Finals and lost (with the Rockets). Like Durant, Malone was a former NBA MVP. Like Durant, Malone signed with a team (the 76ers) that had just lost the NBA Finals and had plenty of talented players (e.g. Dr. J, Bobby Jones, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Toney). And like Durant, the 76ers won the NBA Championship in Malone's 1st year with the team, going 12-1 in the playoffs.
I don't remember people hating Malone for signing with the 76ers. So I don't get the hate for Kevin Durant signing with the Warriors. Durant made the right choice and now Durant not only has a championship but also has a chance to win several more championships.
1. Not shockingly, you're wrong. Moses Malone was traded to the 76ers. Kevin Durant signed as a free agent. So no, it wasn't almost identical.
2. Even if the situations were identical, in the early 80s, social media didn't exist so people didn't have an endless array of media in which to bitch and moan ceaselessly about complete horseshit, and sports media wasn't as exploitative as it was back then to feed into such hysteria.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 13, 2017 21:26:08 GMT
That's true. Moses Malone's situation was almost identical to Kevin Durant's situation. Like Durant, Malone had previously gone to the NBA Finals and lost (with the Rockets). Like Durant, Malone was a former NBA MVP. Like Durant, Malone signed with a team (the 76ers) that had just lost the NBA Finals and had plenty of talented players (e.g. Dr. J, Bobby Jones, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Toney). And like Durant, the 76ers won the NBA Championship in Malone's 1st year with the team, going 12-1 in the playoffs.
I don't remember people hating Malone for signing with the 76ers. So I don't get the hate for Kevin Durant signing with the Warriors. Durant made the right choice and now Durant not only has a championship but also has a chance to win several more championships.
1. Not shockingly, you're wrong. Moses Malone was traded to the 76ers. Kevin Durant signed as a free agent.That's why I said "almost identical" and not "exactly identical", idiot. Learn to read!
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 13, 2017 21:37:59 GMT
1. Not shockingly, you're wrong. Moses Malone was traded to the 76ers. Kevin Durant signed as a free agent. That's why I said "almost identical" and not "exactly identical", idiot. Learn to read! Learn to read what YOU WROTE - "Malone signed with a team." Good job, ass hole. You're a fucking idiot twice.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 13, 2017 21:39:08 GMT
That's true. Moses Malone's situation was almost identical to Kevin Durant's situation. Like Durant, Malone had previously gone to the NBA Finals and lost (with the Rockets). Like Durant, Malone was a former NBA MVP. Like Durant, Malone signed with a team (the 76ers) that had just lost the NBA Finals and had plenty of talented players (e.g. Dr. J, Bobby Jones, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Toney). And like Durant, the 76ers won the NBA Championship in Malone's 1st year with the team, going 12-1 in the playoffs.
I don't remember people hating Malone for signing with the 76ers. So I don't get the hate for Kevin Durant signing with the Warriors. Durant made the right choice and now Durant not only has a championship but also has a chance to win several more championships.
1. Not shockingly, you're wrong. Moses Malone was traded to the 76ers. Kevin Durant signed as a free agent. So no, it wasn't almost identical.
2. Even if the situations were identical, in the early 80s, social media didn't exist so people didn't have an endless array of media in which to bitch and moan ceaselessly about complete horseshit, and sports media wasn't as exploitative as it was back then to feed into such hysteria. September 2, 1982: Signed as a veteran free agent with the Philadelphia 76ers; the Houston Rockets received Caldwell Jones and a 1983 1st round draft pick (Rodney McCray was later selected) as compensation.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 13, 2017 21:40:13 GMT
1. Not shockingly, you're wrong. Moses Malone was traded to the 76ers. Kevin Durant signed as a free agent. So no, it wasn't almost identical.
2. Even if the situations were identical, in the early 80s, social media didn't exist so people didn't have an endless array of media in which to bitch and moan ceaselessly about complete horseshit, and sports media wasn't as exploitative as it was back then to feed into such hysteria. September 2, 1982: Signed as a veteran free agent with the Philadelphia 76ers; the Houston Rockets received Caldwell Jones and a 1983 1st round draft pick (Rodney McCray was later selected) as compensation. MALONE GOES TO 76ERS FOR CALDWELL JONES Special to the New York Times Published: September 16, 1982 PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 15— The Philadelphia 76ers today acquired Moses Malone, the National Basketball Association's most valuable player last season, in a trade with the Houston Rockets for the veteran center Caldwell Jones and Philadelphia's No. 1 selection in next year's draft.
On Sept. 2 the 76ers signed Malone to an offer sheet that reportedly would pay him a minimum of $11.8 million for six years and in excess of $15 million if several bonus clauses materialized. The Rockets, under the league rule regarding free agency, had 15 days from Sept. 2 to match that offer, or lose Malone to the 76ers. However, on Sept. 8, the league called several provisions of the 76er offer illegal. Today, the league said from its New York office that the three most-disputed provisions had been dropped ''by mutual consent of all parties involved,'' and thus Commissioner Larry O'Brien had approved the trade. Under the new contract, Malone, the 28-year-old center who has been the league's m.v.p. twice, still stands to make a minimum of $11.2 million. He will make an additional $100,000 in each of the next six seasons that the 76ers have a home playoff game, and another $100,000 a season if he averages 30 minutes a game, which he has done throughout his career. Those clauses would bring the value of the contract to $12.4 million. Should Malone play in the maximum home playoff games over the next six years, the figure could rise to $13 million. He could make even more in a clause tied to his 5 percent share of the team's gross receipts after $4 million and 10 percent after $6 million. ''I don't think anyone knew what I was worth until Philadelphia spoke up,'' Malone said tonight after a hurriedly called news conference in Philadelphia. The trade was announced jointly in Philadelphia and Houston. Charlie Thomas, who is in the process of buying the the Rockets, confirmed the deal in Houston. ''We felt he didn't want to play here anymore,'' he said. Malone commented: ''No one in Houston recognized how much I did.'' After the challenge to the Philadelphia offer, a hearing on the validity of the contract and offer sheet was held Monday in New York under Kingman Brewster, the former president of Yale. Howard Katz, owner of the 76ers, said: ''Neither party, I thought, felt victory or defeat after the Brewster ruling. It was a nothing ruling. It didn't mean anything.'' According to the league statement today, though, certain provisions will be struck from the contract: ''The three provisions which will be deleted involve an annual bonus if Philadelphia is not among the top six teams in the N.B.A. in road attendance, a bonus if Philadelphia's home gate revenues are less than $3 million and a bonus if Philadelphia does not have a statistical leader other than Malone in any year.'' The league did allow provisions for $100,000 a year in guaranteed endorsements and the percentage of gross receipts above $4 million. Katz said that he and his attorney, Laurence Shaiman, met twice on Sunday with lawyers for Gavin Maloof, the former Rocket owner, and Thomas, and were ''not close'' to a resolution. On Monday, while the N.B.A. arbitration was held, representatives of both clubs talked again and, said Katz, ''there was no deal.'' Tuesday, Katz was in Atlanta, and at his request Shaiman called representatives of Thomas to see if there would be any reason to fly to Houston and talk further about a possible deal. ''They said yes,'' Katz said. Meanwhile, Malone was en route to Philadelphia, where he was to undergo a physical examination as part of Philadelphia's tentative offer. He was booked on a flight from here back to Houston in midafternoon, but his plans were changed. ''Late this afternoon,'' Katz said, ''we got the word agreeing, and it was go for the deal and no-go for Moses going back to Houston.''
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 13, 2017 21:42:12 GMT
Whatever, fuck Anne Hathaway Fan. I won't delete my post like he would have, I'll just chalk it up to being wrong. I'll own it up to a mistake on my part. But still, he's a pussy and should be mocked at every turn.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 13, 2017 21:44:03 GMT
Whatever, fuck Anne Hathaway Fan. I won't delete my post like he would have, I'll just chalk it up to being wrong. I'll own it up to a mistake on my part. But still, he's a pussy and should be mocked at every turn. I hate to bring this up, but why do people use "anne hathaway fan" as a way to mock him? She is hot as fuck!
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 13, 2017 21:45:43 GMT
Whatever, fuck Anne Hathaway Fan. I won't delete my post like he would have, I'll just chalk it up to being wrong. I'll own it up to a mistake on my part. But still, he's a pussy and should be mocked at every turn. I hate to bring this up, but why do people use "anne hathaway fan" as a way to mock him? She is hot as fuck! She is, and she's done some good work too, but we do it because he argues so vociferously against it when we do it that it's comical. If he weren't such a tool, we wouldn't do it.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 13, 2017 21:46:22 GMT
I hate to bring this up, but why do people use "anne hathaway fan" as a way to mock him? She is hot as fuck! She is, and she's done some good work too, but we do it because he argues so vociferously against it when we do it that it's comical. If he weren't such a tool, we wouldn't do it. Gotcha!
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 13, 2017 22:09:06 GMT
September 2, 1982: Signed as a veteran free agent with the Philadelphia 76ers; the Houston Rockets received Caldwell Jones and a 1983 1st round draft pick (Rodney McCray was later selected) as compensation. MALONE GOES TO 76ERS FOR CALDWELL JONES So Basketball Reference is technically wrong, but he signed the offer sheet before any "trade" aspects occurred. Houston didn't want him and just didn't want to get screwed.
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Post by sdm3 on Jun 14, 2017 6:09:19 GMT
No love for any of the Spurs teams? They weren't pretty, but they got the job done.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 14, 2017 7:35:26 GMT
No love for any of the Spurs teams? They weren't pretty, but they got the job done. I don't have any of the Spurs teams in my top 5 because the most wins that any of the Spurs' 5 championship teams had in 1 season was 62 wins. All of the teams in my top 5 won at least 65 games.
1. 1982-83 76ers - 65 wins
2. 1985-86 Celtics - 67 wins
3. 1986-87 Lakers - 65 wins
4. 1995-96 Bulls - 72 wins
5. 2016-17 Warriors - 67 wins
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jun 14, 2017 20:59:20 GMT
5 best I've seen, and I'm not ranking them
1982-3 76ers, 1984-5 Lakers 1985-6 Celtics, 1991-2 Bulls, 2013-14 Spurs. Honourable mentions: 1986-87 and 87-88 Lakers, 1989-90 Stones, 1995-96 Bulls, 1999-00 Lakers, 2012-13 Heat, 2016-17 Warriors.
On another day I could put any of those in. I always put the 91-92 Bulls ahead of the 95-6 edition because I honestly think what they did, as defending champs in a strong league, was more impressive.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 14, 2017 21:13:36 GMT
5 best I've seen, and I'm not ranking them 1982-3 76ers, 1984-5 Lakers 1985-6 Celtics, 1991-2 Bulls, 2013-14 Spurs. Honourable mentions: 1986-87 and 87-88 Lakers, 1989-90 Stones, 1995-96 Bulls, 1999-00 Lakers, 2012-13 Heat, 2016-17 Warriors. On another day I could put any of those in. I always put the 91-92 Bulls ahead of the 95-6 edition because I honestly think what they did, as defending champs in a strong league, was more impressive. Each of LeBron James' 8 NBA Finals opponents had a better postseason net efficiency than the best team Michael Jordan ever faced. /photo/1
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jun 14, 2017 21:42:13 GMT
Not surprised. The 90s were a fairly mediocre era saved by MJ and the Bulls, rather than some pinacle in awesomeness that rose tinted glasses remember it as.
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