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Post by blade on Jun 16, 2017 20:43:17 GMT
Wow this thread has attracted NOBODY i enjoy talking to. Trump promised change.  Surely you enjoyed watching superdud being made a fool of.. for the 37th[?] time? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 20:45:39 GMT
Wow this thread has attracted NOBODY i enjoy talking to. Trump promised change. Surely you enjoyed watching superdud being made a fool of.. for the 37th[?] time? You said "I used to tell Ada to kill herself" That is a lie. Produce evidence for what you claim. What seems to be the delay coward? This is the 6th time I've asked you. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 16, 2017 20:59:47 GMT
tpfkar You and kitten will always have "fudge". 
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Post by islandmur on Jun 16, 2017 22:38:13 GMT
From what i've read it's not only that she encouraged him to kill himself, but that he was killing himself and she knew it, she told him to get back in the truck and she didn't alert anyone that he was in the process of suiciding. Isn't there a law about non assistance to a person in danger? or is that in france? This seems to be happening more and more, kids being targeted because they are unstable and being pushed to suicide, this is like the 3rd or 4th incident i've read about this year I think. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 16, 2017 23:56:21 GMT
So that means you don't like it either? It's plain crazy -- like saying her parents killed the boy by raising a daughter who encouraged him to commit suicide. Where does the buck stop? The concept of personal responsibility is lost. The notion that the girl had "power" over the boy to the extent of "forcing" him to kill himself is totally absurd and an absolute travesty of justice. If she had any power or authority whatsoever over the boy and misused that then it approaches placing some responsibility on her. People today have no concept of power or authority except what "most people" think, and most people rather obviously do not think. This is not to say that encouraging suicide is acceptable. It is not. It is something that ought to be discouraged, perhaps even by regulation. It is not the same thing as murder though. That is the absurdity. |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jun 17, 2017 1:07:19 GMT
I thought that the US had freedom of speech.  Do you even know what freedom of speech means? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 2:06:24 GMT
I thought that the US had freedom of speech. Do you even know what freedom of speech means? Yes, it means that unpopular speech or writing is permitted as well as popular speech or writing. |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jun 17, 2017 3:26:45 GMT
Do you even know what freedom of speech means? Yes, it means that unpopular speech or writing is permitted as well as popular speech or writing. At no time in history has freedom of speech meant freedom to bully. That's as ridiculous as saying freedom of religion includes the freedom to engage in human sacrifice. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Jun 17, 2017 6:02:09 GMT
Yes, it means that unpopular speech or writing is permitted as well as popular speech or writing. At no time in history has freedom of speech meant freedom to bully. That's as ridiculous as saying freedom of religion includes the freedom to engage in human sacrifice. Freedom of Religion means you can chop off a baby boy's penis, suck the blood out, give him herpes, and kill him. Don't conflate how things are with how things should be. You have a right not be be human sacrificed. You don't have a right not to be "bullied". If you did, you'd be the bully. |
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Post by Morgana on Jun 17, 2017 11:44:24 GMT
I think it was the right decision and I am glad it sets a precedent. Not only did she not call 911 but she actively encouraged him to do it. I hope this will apply to internet bullies that are the cause of so many young people committing suicide. |
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Post by Vegas on Jun 17, 2017 12:41:58 GMT
Wow this thread has attracted NOBODY i enjoy talking to. Trump promised change.  |
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Post by Vegas on Jun 17, 2017 12:49:01 GMT
Oh. I thought this was some link to a case of a person being a bully.... This is about that weird, creepy girl who encouraged/horrifically goaded her boyfriend into killing himself... including the "Get back into the car" text. Yeah. She was definitely guilty of something evil.... She was an active participant in that kid's death. |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jun 17, 2017 13:59:08 GMT
At no time in history has freedom of speech meant freedom to bully. That's as ridiculous as saying freedom of religion includes the freedom to engage in human sacrifice. Freedom of Religion means you can chop off a baby boy's penis, suck the blood out, give him herpes, and kill him. Don't conflate how things are with how things should be. You have a right not be be human sacrificed. You don't have a right not to be "bullied". If you did, you'd be the bully. Once again, stop trying to think, it's never worked out well for you. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jun 17, 2017 15:12:19 GMT
At first I thought it was bad, but the more I think about it the better I feel about it. Maybe it's time for people to start taking responsibility for their actions. Not just the suicide victim, obviously they're ultimately responsible, but it's not acceptable to push someone else towards that end. Maybe it's time to say it's not alright to tell people to kill themselves just because it's online. Maybe they need to set some examples of some of the people who behave in such a manner. Public shaming is actually all that's needed. These days many employers will do an internet search of their applicants names, probably won't look good to see you were in the news at one point for telling someone to kill themselves. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jun 17, 2017 15:16:33 GMT
So that means you don't like it either? It's plain crazy -- like saying her parents killed the boy by raising a daughter who encouraged him to commit suicide. Where does the buck stop? The concept of personal responsibility is lost. The notion that the girl had "power" over the boy to the extent of "forcing" him to kill himself is totally absurd and an absolute travesty of justice. If she had any power or authority whatsoever over the boy and misused that then it approaches placing some responsibility on her. People today have no concept of power or authority except what "most people" think, and most people rather obviously do not think. This is not to say that encouraging suicide is acceptable. It is not. It is something that ought to be discouraged, perhaps even by regulation. It is not the same thing as murder though. That is the absurdity. And yet Charlie Manson can serve life in prison for basically telling other people to kill and most of us are fine with that. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 17, 2017 15:18:58 GMT
tpfkar You've got to distinguish between somebody saying "You suck!" in a coarse, ragey manner and somebody actually trying to lead someone to offing themselves.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 17, 2017 23:47:59 GMT
It's plain crazy -- like saying her parents killed the boy by raising a daughter who encouraged him to commit suicide. Where does the buck stop? The concept of personal responsibility is lost. The notion that the girl had "power" over the boy to the extent of "forcing" him to kill himself is totally absurd and an absolute travesty of justice. If she had any power or authority whatsoever over the boy and misused that then it approaches placing some responsibility on her. People today have no concept of power or authority except what "most people" think, and most people rather obviously do not think. This is not to say that encouraging suicide is acceptable. It is not. It is something that ought to be discouraged, perhaps even by regulation. It is not the same thing as murder though. That is the absurdity. And yet Charlie Manson can serve life in prison for basically telling other people to kill and most of us are fine with that. Charlie Manson was the "leader" of his "family" of followers and had considerable control over them. He managed their affairs. They were dependent on him. This is not to say they were blameless obviously. If a drill instructor in the marines encouraged a soldier to commit suicide it would be worse. If a doctor encouraged a patient to commit suicide it would be worse. My point was that the girl had no such power, authority or control over the boy who committed suicide. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jun 18, 2017 6:25:03 GMT
And yet Charlie Manson can serve life in prison for basically telling other people to kill and most of us are fine with that. Charlie Manson was the "leader" of his "family" of followers and had considerable control over them. He managed their affairs. They were dependent on him. This is not to say they were blameless obviously. If a drill instructor in the marines encouraged a soldier to commit suicide it would be worse. If a doctor encouraged a patient to commit suicide it would be worse. My point was that the girl had no such power, authority or control over the boy who committed suicide. I'm not too familiar with this case but if it's the one I'm thinking of then the girl was a couple years older than the teenage guy she was dating, and obviously had considerable control over him. Maybe the kid felt dependent on her? Seems strange that you automatically assume that the girl had no power, authority or control over her younger boyfriend. She obviously had some. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jun 18, 2017 6:27:57 GMT
tpfkar You've got to distinguish between somebody saying "You suck!" in a coarse, ragey manner and somebody actually trying to lead someone to offing themselves.
Blue for You"You suck", or "I don't like you!" is considerably different from "You should kill yourself". IMO people who lack empathy to the point they actively tell other people to suicide are probably not the kind of people you want in a healthy, positive society. Probably be better to euthanize them. |
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Post by Vegas on Jun 18, 2017 8:29:31 GMT
tpfkar You've got to distinguish between somebody saying "You suck!" in a coarse, ragey manner and somebody actually trying to lead someone to offing themselves.
Blue for You"You suck", or "I don't like you!" is considerably different from "You should kill yourself". IMO people who lack empathy to the point they actively tell other people to suicide are probably not the kind of people you want in a healthy, positive society. Probably be better to euthanize them. That explains why half of this board is stuck on this board..... |
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