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Post by enigma72 on Jun 21, 2017 2:40:24 GMT
I just started watching the reruns from years ago....
but not the beginning of the series...
why does the youngest child, Brick, look down and say a word again... is it his OCD?
Thank you!
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jun 21, 2017 6:01:43 GMT
he's weird.
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 21, 2017 12:56:05 GMT
Brick is obviously a high-functioning autistic (Asperger's), but the producers of the series have chosen to play it for laughs. The boy's condition has never been addressed by his stupid, self-absorbed parents (especially Frankie Heck, who is one of the most atrocious characters on TV today). They think he's "weird" and "quirky" and have never brought him in for evaluation anywhere, though his teachers and school officials have suggested they do just that.
Now, he's grown into an awkward teenager with a big round head, honking voice, and a scary, white face. He charges around the house like a robot, has a fascination for "fonts," and is supposedly just entering his sophomore year of high school--though the actor is almost 19.
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Post by enigma72 on Jun 21, 2017 15:53:15 GMT
Brick is obviously a high-functioning autistic (Asperger's), but the producers of the series has chosen to play it for laughs. The boy's condition has never been addressed by his stupid, self-absorbed parents (especially Frankie Heck, who is one of the most atrocious characters on TV today). They think he's "weird" and "quirky" and have never brought him in for evaluation anywhere, though his teachers and school officials have suggested they do just that. Now, he's grown into an awkward teenager with a big round head, honking voice, and a scary, white face. He charges around the house like a robot, has a fascination for "fonts," and is supposedly just entering his sophomore year of high school--though the actor is almost 19. thank you nate my husband finds brick so disturbing, he won't watch the show. his behavior has never been addressed?? that is odd. thank you!! yes frankie has a motherly instinct every once in awhile, but it always goes wrong. hope I am not a mother like that!!
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 21, 2017 17:04:41 GMT
Frankie Heck is not above lying and stealing, if it benefits her or her motley family. The Donahues, who are their neighbors and picture-perfect (and nice) in every way, are painted out to be "weird" by them and the producers of the show. But it's not "weird" for Frankie to borrow their spotless car and leave it full of trash, or when she keeps forgetting her youngest child's birthday or doesn't even know when school starts (the kids were late by a week). At first, she was written as a "harried, every day housewife" dealing with "trying to get by." But eventually, she became a manipulative, cheating liar who takes nothing seriously, including motherhood.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 24, 2017 15:02:17 GMT
I'm amazed this show lasted as long as it did and Last Man Standing got cancelled, as contrived as that one was.
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Post by sagenesse on Jun 24, 2017 23:33:26 GMT
Brick is odd but every sitcom has a weird character.
Hey! I just noticed all of you who replied to this joined this site the same day. What are the chances of that?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 25, 2017 6:01:50 GMT
enigma72 When "The Middle" first came on I saw the commercials and assumed that it was just another of those "fighting families with quirks" shows and didn't bother watching it. Around the time of season three, I had read about the show and about Atticus Shaffer and decided to give it a chance. The characters really grew on me and the stories, though exaggerated, are often rather true to life. Sometimes they are really REALLY familiar situations presented with a twist. I went out and bought the dvds of season 1 and 2 so's I could catch up. What I really appreciate about the show is that Brick's physical condition is never discussed. Just his quirks. Sue and Axel have major quirks too, also treated in a humorous manner. As far as taking mr dawg's word about the show , I suggest looking at THE MIDDLE (link) for some unbiased reviews and avoid his habitually negative analysis of everything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 13:01:44 GMT
I noticed no one is ever satisfied. If a kid is behaving strangely and the parents do nothing, they're chastised for not bringing him in for an evaluation and get diagnosed. If they do bring him in to get diagnosed, then they're still chastised for allowing their child to be among the "over diagnosed" minions of labels du jour.
I'm of the mindset that one reason we're getting so many of these "new cases" is because we are only now realizing the symptoms that yester-year we had to suppress and hide and secret. Making it more acceptable to have problems and be different makes it easier for younger kids to get help but it's causing an influx of adults being Dx'd and being deemed as fakers for their ADHD or OCD or Asperger's or whatever. These conditions are real, they were real years ago, but they were locked up in "mental hospitals" and people weren't given a chance at quality of life.
Can't win....can't please everyone. No matter what, someone's gotta get pissed off.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 25, 2017 13:17:23 GMT
Thinking more about the Middle and Brick. Brick has been evaluated. That's why he was put in that class with the "quirky" kids all of whom have varying levels of "poor social skills". That's why his family does as much as they can to encourage him to mingle and interact with people. They do what they can do. Brick's main "problem" is that he is Brick. Loves to read. Is not athletic so avoids sports. Is smarter than all get out. Is not mean ! Damn, what a problem child !
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 25, 2017 23:38:08 GMT
enigma72 When "The Middle" first came on I saw the commercials and assumed that it was just another of those "fighting families with quirks" shows and didn't bother watching it. Around the time of season three, I had read about the show and about Atticus Shaffer and decided to give it a chance. The characters really grew on me and the stories, though exaggerated, are often rather true to life. Sometimes they are really REALLY familiar situations presented with a twist. I went out and bought the dvds of season 1 and 2 so's I could catch up. What I really appreciate about the show is that Brick's physical condition is never discussed. Just his quirks. Sue and Axel have major quirks too, also treated in a humorous manner. As far as taking mr dawg's word about the show , I suggest looking at THE MIDDLE (link) for some unbiased reviews and avoid his habitually negative analysis of everything.
Sue and Axl have personality quirks. Brick is in need of medical care. Big difference. Glad you find someone who's autistic funny. You must laugh your ass off at the Special Olympics.
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 25, 2017 23:40:54 GMT
Thinking more about the Middle and Brick. Brick has been evaluated. That's why he was put in that class with the "quirky" kids all of whom have varying levels of "poor social skills". That's why his family does as much as they can to encourage him to mingle and interact with people. They do what they can do. Brick's main "problem" is that he is Brick. Loves to read. Is not athletic so avoids sports. Is smarter than all get out. Is not mean ! Damn, what a problem child ! "Quirky kids?" Who uses that term to describe children who have obvious disorders? Only people like you, apparently--and Frankie and Mike Heck. The school has recommended all number of things to help Brick, but both his stupid parents have either failed to follow through or don't take it seriously. That class of "quirky" kids included one who thought he was a cat. Big laughs at his expense, but you consider it merely "poor social skills." Brick isn't just "smarter than all get out." He doesn't know how to flush a toilet, doesn't know the difference between hot and cold on a bathtub tap, can't find his way home from the library, can't change a garbage bag without it ending up over his head, can't be trusted to go into a party store and get napkins and balloons and instead returns dressed like Batman, with no memory of why he went in there, AND he's obsessed with fonts. Fonts! Ok. No problem there, right? And you think that's peachy.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 25, 2017 23:44:42 GMT
naterdawg. Pointless to try to discuss this with you when you insist on putting words in my mouth and claiming that you can read my mind about what I find funny. Have as nice a day as you can there in NegativityWorld
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 26, 2017 1:48:54 GMT
naterdawg . Pointless to try to discuss this with you when you insist on putting words in my mouth and claiming that you can read my mind about what I find funny. Have as nice a day as you can there in NegativityWorld Just going by what you've been saying. Have fun looking through your rose-colored glasses!
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Post by sagenesse on Jun 26, 2017 4:51:39 GMT
I noticed no one is ever satisfied. If a kid is behaving strangely and the parents do nothing, they're chastised for not bringing him in for an evaluation and get diagnosed. If they do bring him in to get diagnosed, then they're still chastised for allowing their child to be among the "over diagnosed" minions of labels du jour. I'm of the mindset that one reason we're getting so many of these "new cases" is because we are only now realizing the symptoms that yester-year we had to suppress and hide and secret. Making it more acceptable to have problems and be different makes it easier for younger kids to get help but it's causing an influx of adults being Dx'd and being deemed as fakers for their ADHD or OCD or Asperger's or whatever. These conditions are real, they were real years ago, but they were locked up in "mental hospitals" and people weren't given a chance at quality of life. Can't win....can't please everyone. No matter what, someone's gotta get pissed off. I agree. Too many people today are way too quick to label others. If you are neat you are OCD or if your kid is full of energy then they are ADHD. I just see Brick as a kid who has quirks and nothing more. If you want to watch a show about about a normal kid then watch Leave It To Beaver.
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Post by sagenesse on Jun 26, 2017 4:57:09 GMT
enigma72 When "The Middle" first came on I saw the commercials and assumed that it was just another of those "fighting families with quirks" shows and didn't bother watching it. Around the time of season three, I had read about the show and about Atticus Shaffer and decided to give it a chance. The characters really grew on me and the stories, though exaggerated, are often rather true to life. Sometimes they are really REALLY familiar situations presented with a twist. I went out and bought the dvds of season 1 and 2 so's I could catch up. What I really appreciate about the show is that Brick's physical condition is never discussed. Just his quirks. Sue and Axel have major quirks too, also treated in a humorous manner. As far as taking mr dawg's word about the show , I suggest looking at THE MIDDLE (link) for some unbiased reviews and avoid his habitually negative analysis of everything.
Did you look at the reviews? Naterdawg did review it? The review is near the end & negative www.imdb.com/title/tt1442464/reviews?start=50
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 26, 2017 5:04:11 GMT
I noticed no one is ever satisfied. If a kid is behaving strangely and the parents do nothing, they're chastised for not bringing him in for an evaluation and get diagnosed. If they do bring him in to get diagnosed, then they're still chastised for allowing their child to be among the "over diagnosed" minions of labels du jour. I'm of the mindset that one reason we're getting so many of these "new cases" is because we are only now realizing the symptoms that yester-year we had to suppress and hide and secret. Making it more acceptable to have problems and be different makes it easier for younger kids to get help but it's causing an influx of adults being Dx'd and being deemed as fakers for their ADHD or OCD or Asperger's or whatever. These conditions are real, they were real years ago, but they were locked up in "mental hospitals" and people weren't given a chance at quality of life. Can't win....can't please everyone. No matter what, someone's gotta get pissed off. I agree. Too many people today are way too quick to label others. If you are neat you are OCD or if your kid is full of energy then they are ADHD. I just see Brick as a kid who has quirks and nothing more. If you want to watch a show about about a normal kid then watch Leave It To Beaver. Brick whispers and repeats words to himself and can't "control it," and you think that's merely quirky? He can't flush a toilet, can't change a garbage bag, doesn't duck when someone throws a ball at his face, and you think it's just "quirky?" Quirky is something out of the ordinary, like wearing a bowtie when everyone's wearing a necktie. Repeating words to yourself in an audible whisper is not "quirky." Sheesh. Thank God we don't have people like you working in our school systems. As for Beaver, he's far from being a "normal" kid. He's just as developmentally challenged as Brick, but in those days, they just called kids "goofy." Luckily, we've come a long way since then.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 26, 2017 5:17:39 GMT
sagenesseJust for fun I did go back and look at many of the reviews. Some of the 90 loved it. Some hated it. Many cited the "quirkyness" and the familiarity of the characters and situations. I have a friend who, as an infant, was left in a stroller outside a bank. Her mom had completely forgotten that she had the baby with her. (This was back in the day when it was safe to leave a child unattended anywhere PLUS it had been 14 years between child #1 and #2) Makes for a funny family story and is quite reminiscent of Brick being left behind. M. Dawg's review seemed to indicate that he has watched the entire series. I would have to wonder WHY, if it is such a detestable show, is he still watching it ? When I don't care for a show, I don't watch it. Silly me.
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 27, 2017 17:44:54 GMT
I didn't say it was "detestable," I said Frankie was detestable. And I enjoyed the first season especially because Patricia Heaton was a favorite of mine from Everybody Loves Raymond. Back then, the kids were cute, Frankie really was struggling, and even Mike was more engaging.
Now, 8 years later, the kids are all moronic and immature beyond belief, Brick is slowly growing into a round-headed, blank-faced automaton who charges through the house by swinging his arms and walking robotically, Mike has shown some development, in that he's no longer a curmudgeon who doesn't give a shat about his children, and Frankie has become an avaricious, cheating, lying, snake in the grass. Let's not forget what she did to the Donahue's Thanksgiving dinner. Perfect example of her "it's all about me," attitude and "screw the rest." Maybe you find that endearing, maybe it makes you laugh, but her character is definitely the worst mom on TV EVER.
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Post by naterdawg on Jun 27, 2017 17:46:57 GMT
sagenesse I have a friend who, as an infant, was left in a stroller outside a bank. Her mom had completely forgotten that she had the baby with her. (This was back in the day when it was safe to leave a child unattended anywhere PLUS it had been 14 years between child #1 and #2) Makes for a funny family story and is quite reminiscent of Brick being left behind. Brick was left behind at the used car lot by Frankie. He was also given to another family for A MONTH. Quite a bit different from your story about the sweet mom who left her child unattended. According to you, that happened "when it was safe to leave a child unattended." When was that, in the early 1940s?
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