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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 18:16:04 GMT
Yes, he did. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Stucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Snce no normal human being can survive a blow to the head with a large object that's harder than a large hammer, Strucker clearly died from being smashed on the had by Cap's shield. Its a made up lie by you. No, I didn't make it up. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Stucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Since no normal human being can survive a blow to the head with a large object that's harder than a large hammer, Strucker clearly died from being smashed on the had by Cap's shield. Nobody ever claimed Strucker died until you did. Not everything needs to be spoon-fed. When we see a movie where a norman human being gets shot in the back of the head, we don't need anyone in the movie to explicitly say "He's dead" to know that character was killed by the shot to the back of his head. And when we see Cap smash Strucker's skull with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer, we don't need anyone in the movie to explicitly say "He's dead" to know that Strucker was killed by Cap smashing his head with the sheld, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Being shot in the head and being hit on your head are two different things. If you dont understand the difference ask any Texas hillbilly to first hit you and than shoot you.[/quote] We're not talking about someone getting hit in the head with a person's fist. We're talking about someone getting hit in the head with a large object that's harder than a large hammer. But if you want to use your analogy, then ask any Texas hillbilly if they think there would be any difference between them shooting someone in the back of the head with a gun and hitting someone on the head with a large lead pipe. EVERY INTELLIGENT PERSON WILL TELL YOU THE RESULT WILL BE THE SAME. THE VICTIM'S SKULL WILL BE BUSTED OPEN AND THE VICTIM WILL BE DEAD.2. That depends how hard the hit was. You use smashed but the hit wasnt that hard actually. Strucker wasn't hit by a child. Strucker was smashed on the head with a shield that's harder than Thor's hammer by a super-soldier who has enhanced strength from a super_PED formula. There's nothing "soft" about such a blow.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 18:20:42 GMT
The only question is was Cap justified in killing Strucker (like Superman was justified in killing Zod because Zod was threatening to kill a family of civilians). Well, Strucker was unarmed and Strucker had no hostages and Strucker wasn't a threat to Cap or anyone else. So Cap basically killed an unarmed man in cold blood without any justification. There was no trial, no jury, no judge. Just a cold-blooded execution by Cap. Except he didn't kill him did he. That's already established...BECAUSE HE WAS LATER KILLED BY ULTRON WHILE IN A PRISON CELL!!!! Strucker was later killed by Ultron while in a prison cell AFTER CAP ALREADY EXECUTED AN UNARMED STRUCKER IN COLD BLOOD BY SMASHING STRUCKER'S HEAD IN WITH HIS SHIELD (WHICH IS HARDER THAN THOR'S HAMMER) AND THEN THE MOVIE PRETENDED THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN RETCONNED IT. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE MOVIE!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 18:20:56 GMT
why would a young Diana speak English. Because Amazons speak hundreds of different languages. Wouldnt she use Ancient Greek. Ancient Greek is just 1 of the many languages that she speaks. Amazons speak hundreds of different languages. Especially when there are only Amazonions around? When I took Spanish in high school, the teacher made us always speak Spanish only in the classroom even though everyone in the class spoke English as their 1st language. The best way to learn a language is to practice speaking that language constantly to others around you who can also speak that language. The best way for Diana to learn to speak English when she was a child was to speak English constantly to others around her who can also speak English. And since all the Amazons on the island can speak English, Diana could learn English by speaking English to all the other Amazons. And when Diana learned Spanish, she probably spoke Spanish to all the other Amazons since all the Amazons on the island can speak Spanish too. But there was no need to show child Diana learning to speak Spanish since adult Diana explained to Steve Trevor that the Amazons spoke hundreds of different languages. Beside that when Diana was young (befathered by Zeus so at least 2500 years ago) she also spoke English. A language that didnt exsist back then. Another major flaw. You don't know when Diana was young and started speaking English. She could've started speaking English 1500 years ago or 1000 years ago or 500 years ago or even just 25 years ago. We know that Diana is the daughter of Zeus but the movie doesn't indicate what year (or years, since Amazons obviously don't age at the same rate as normal humans) Diana was a child or Diana was a teen or Diana was an adult. You drag the Klingons and Romulans into this? How about Romans? Didn't Romans exist? From what I remember, Connie Neilsen and the rest of the cast spoke perfect English and not Roman in Gladiator. Again, that's a convention used in movie-making so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles. You scored Wonder Woman 10/10. Yes, because it's 1 of the best CBMs ever made and definitely better than any of MCU's movies. How can you do that when you are so honoust and these flaws are quite obviously in there? And these flaws havent been made up. They're totally real. No, your hissy fits about "speaking English" aren't flaws because those are just standard conventions used in almost all movies so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles. you call Cap a murderer ,which he isnt because you made that up I didn't make that up. Cap is a murderer. AoU clearly showed Cap smashing Strucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. I see you still haven't answered my questions, but it's true that no normal human being can survive having their head smashed by a shield that's harder than a large hammer. So Strucker did die, that's a fact that's clearly shown in the movie. The only question is was Cap justified in killing Strucker (like Superman was justified in killing Zod because Zod was threatening to kill a family of civilians). Well, Strucker was unarmed and Strucker had no hostages and Strucker wasn't a threat to Cap or anyone else. So Cap basically killed an unarmed man in cold blood without any justification. There was no trial, no jury, no judge. Just a cold-blooded execution by Cap. She hasnt aged a day in a 100 years so its safe to say that her growing up into adulthood took the 2500 years I said. Since Zeus was a God to the ancient Greeks. Maybe you can throw Jupiter in the mix (his name to the Romans) but since he was called Zeus he would have made her mother pregnant back than. English (and more specific Modern English) didnt come in exsistance until much later its a major flaw. Well in Gladiator everybody spoke English. In Wonder Woman they speak the so called native languages except for the Germans who speak English?! Flaw. Totally ridiculous. And the Belgians speak something resembling to Dutch. It was an insult. Wonder Woman was so pretentious to use different languages but didnt do it completely or correctly. Making the trench scene aftermath a more dumb comedic moment than any other is movie history. Btw have you ever been to the trenches? I have. Since you are so into reality in Hollywood movies, one machine gun? Really? Wonder Woman would have been shit into a thousand pieces in the real War. Several Machine guns aiming at her from all angles so fast she wouldnt be able to block them all. Simply impossible. That scene is really an insult to the millions who laid down their lives in that war. And fyi my greatgrandfather fought in that war so its kind of a personal thing for me. Ecept Cap didnt kill him. Only in your shitty brain he did. But we all know whats in your head isnt even close to being true. Too bad Btw how about Batman being a murdering coward?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 18:26:32 GMT
Yes, he did. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Stucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Snce no normal human being can survive a blow to the head with a large object that's harder than a large hammer, Strucker clearly died from being smashed on the had by Cap's shield. Its a made up lie by you. No, I didn't make it up. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Stucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Since no normal human being can survive a blow to the head with a large object that's harder than a large hammer, Strucker clearly died from being smashed on the had by Cap's shield. Nobody ever claimed Strucker died until you did. Not everything needs to be spoon-fed. When we see a movie where a norman human being gets shot in the back of the head, we don't need anyone in the movie to explicitly say "He's dead" to know that character was killed by the shot to the back of his head. And when we see Cap smash Strucker's skull with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer, we don't need anyone in the movie to explicitly say "He's dead" to know that Strucker was killed by Cap smashing his head with the sheld, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Being shot in the head and being hit on your head are two different things. If you dont understand the difference ask any Texas hillbilly to first hit you and than shoot you. We're not talking about someone getting hit in the head with a person's fist. We're talking about someone getting hit in the head with a large object that's harder than a large hammer. But if you want to use your analogy, then ask any Texas hillbilly if they think there would be any difference between them shooting someone in the back of the head with a gun and hitting someone on the head with a large lead pipe. EVERY INTELLIGENT PERSON WILL TELL YOU THE RESULT WILL BE THE SAME. THE VICTIM'S SKULL WILL BE BUSTED OPEN AND THE VICTIM WILL BE DEAD.2. That depends how hard the hit was. You use smashed but the hit wasnt that hard actually. Strucker wasn't hit by a child. Strucker was smashed on the head with a shield that's harder than Thor's hammer by a super-soldier who has enhanced strength from a super_PED formula. There's nothing "soft" about such a blow.[/quote] But Strucker didnt die. You made that up. How about Batman being a murdering coward?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 18:49:07 GMT
She hasnt aged a day in a 100 years so its safe to say that her growing up into adulthood took the 2500 years I said. Actually, it isn't safe to say that because there's no indication in the movie that child Amazons age at the same rate as adult Amazons. Child Amazons could age at a much faster rate than adult Amazons. Even in humans, children develop more physically in 2 years than an adult does in 2 years. Many years ago a kid pitched a perfect game in the Little League World Series. It was later discovered that his father had falsified his birth certificate and he was really 16 years old at the time, 2 years older than the maximum age for Little League. A child of 16 is much more physically developed than a child of 14. That's why he was so dominant against the younger kids and that's why Little League had a maximum age limit. But an adult of 26 isn't much more physically developed than an adult of 24 the way that a child of 16 is much more physically developed than a child of 14. Children develop at a faster rate than adults. So it's isn't safe to say that it took Diana 2500 years to grow up into adulthood because child Amazons could age at a much faster rate than adult Amazons. Zeus was a God to the ancient Greeks. Yes, most people already know that. Zeus he would have made her mother pregnant back than. English (and more specific Modern English) didnt come in exsistance until much later Again, we don't know when Diana started speaking English. It could've been 1500 years ago or 1000 years ago or 500 years ago or even just 250 years ago. The movie doesn't indicate what year (or years) Diana was a child. Well in Gladiator everybody spoke English. That's what I said. Gladiator took place in ancient Rome, but Connie Nielson and the rest of the cast spoke English in the movie. That's so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles. In Wonder Woman they speak the so called native languages except for the Germans who speak English?! Flaw. Totally ridiculous. Nope, it's not a flaw and it's not ridiculous at all. It's no different than the Romans in Gladiator speaking English instead of their native language. That's so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles. That's so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles.Several Machine guns aiming at her from all angles so fast she wouldnt be able to block them all. Simply impossible. Yes, she could've blocked them all. It's all about geometry and angles. Bullets have a straight-line trajectory and don't curve backwards like pool balls sometimes do. Since the trench is in front of her, all the bullets would be coming from the front and none from the back. So all she has to do is hold her shield in front of her and stand directly behind her shield. Ecept Cap didnt kill him. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Strucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Since no normal human being can survive a blow to the head by a large metal object that's harder than a hammer, it's pretty clear that Cap killed Strucker. Then the movie later pretended it didn't happened and retconned it to say that Ultron killed Strucker in the prison cell when Cap had already executed Strucker earlier in the movie. But Strucker didnt die. You made that up. No, I didn't make it up. It's clearly shown in the movie that Cap executed Strucker in cold blood. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Strucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Since no normal human being can survive a blow to the head by a large metal object that's harder than a hammer, it's pretty clear that Cap killed Strucker. Then the movie later pretended it didn't happened and retconned it to say that Ultron killed Strucker in the prison cell when Cap had already executed Strucker earlier in the movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:02:03 GMT
She hasnt aged a day in a 100 years so its safe to say that her growing up into adulthood took the 2500 years I said. Actually, it isn't safe to say that because there's no indication in the movie that child Amazons age at the same rate as adult Amazons. Child Amazons could age at a much faster rate than adult Amazons. Even in humans, children develop more physically in 2 years than an adult does in 2 years. Many years ago a kid pitched a perfect game in the Little League World Series. It was later discovered that his father had falsified his birth certificate and he was really 16 years old at the time, 2 years older than the maximum age for Little League. A child of 16 is much more physically developed than a child of 14. That's why he was so dominant against the younger kids and that's why Little League had a maximum age limit. But an adult of 26 isn't much more physically developed than an adult of 24 the way that a child of 16 is much more physically developed than a child of 14. Children develop at a faster rate than adults. So it's isn't safe to say that it took Diana 2500 years to grow up into adulthood because child Amazons could age at a much faster rate than adult Amazons. Zeus was a God to the ancient Greeks. Yes, most people already know that. Zeus he would have made her mother pregnant back than. English (and more specific Modern English) didnt come in exsistance until much later Again, we don't know when Diana started speaking English. It could've been 1500 years ago or 1000 years ago or 500 years ago or even 25 years ago. The movie doesn't indicate what year (or years) Diana was a child. Well in Gladiator everybody spoke English. That's what I said. Gladiator took place in ancient Rome, but Connie Nielson and the rest of the cast spoke English in the movie. That's so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles. In Wonder Woman they speak the so called native languages except for the Germans who speak English?! Flaw. Totally ridiculous. Nope, it's not a flaw and it's not ridiculous at all. It's no different than the Romans in Gladiator speaking English instead of their native language. That's so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles. That's so that people in English-speaking countries can watch the movie without having to constantly read subtitles.Several Machine guns aiming at her from all angles so fast she wouldnt be able to block them all. Simply impossible. Yes, she could've blocked them all. It's all about geometry and angles. Bullets have a straight-line trajectory and don't curve backwards like pool balls sometimes do. Since the trench is in front of her, all the bullets would be coming from the front and none from the back. So all she has to do is hold her shield in front of her and stand directly behind her shield. Ecept Cap didnt kill him. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Strucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Since no normal human being can survive a blow to the head by a large metal object that's harder than a hammer, it's pretty clear that Cap killed Strucker. Then the movie later pretended it didn't happened and retconned it to say that Ultron killed Strucker in the prison cell when Cap had already executed Strucker earlier in the movie. The trench is in front of her? Its all around here. She would be attacked from all kinds of angles. The trenches werent straight as a line. They had all kinds of corners and curves. Really you dont know anything. Oh poor English speaking countries. Reading is hard. You havent mastered the craft thats for sure. But thats beside the point. If a movie is all english fine but if you are pretending that the wonder woman can speak all kinds of languages and you use them in the movie dont fuck it uo and they did. They turned drama into slapstick at that moment. So the horrors of war you claimed they show was actually pure slapstick. And if you are going to let people speak native languages let the Germans speak German. Wonder Woman is pretentious crap that copied The First Avenger. The ancient Greeks lived around 2500 years ago. And Zeus was killed right after he hid the Amazonians and made Diana's mom pregnant right? He must have died before Christ came along otherwise he wouldnt be real good God would he now? So its a safe bet that Diana was conceived well before 1 AD. Since she hardly aged a day in 100 years (see BvS and WW) she must have been child a long time ago. Makes sense right? Common sense even? So she was using a language that didnt exsist at that time. Flaw. Major error in this slapstick comedy of a movie. Except Strucker didnt die. You made that up. How about Batman being a murdering coward?
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2017 19:02:03 GMT
Except he didn't kill him did he. That's already established...BECAUSE HE WAS LATER KILLED BY ULTRON WHILE IN A PRISON CELL!!!! Strucker was later killed by Ultron while in a prison cell AFTER CAP ALREADY EXECUTED AN UNARMED STRUCKER IN COLD BLOOD BY SMASHING STRUCKER'S HEAD IN WITH HIS SHIELD (WHICH IS HARDER THAN THOR'S HAMMER) AND THEN THE MOVIE PRETENDED THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN RETCONNED IT. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE MOVIE!!!!You are truly a gift that keeps on giving.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:02:49 GMT
But the finished Ant Man didn't really tie in either. Aside from the Falcon cameo, which was Rudd's idea btw not Marvel, there was really no universe building in the movie. Also Wright doesn't cite that as his problem. He said Marvel wanted to basically rewrite his script, which probably had more to do with creative direction than the MCU universe. It also shows us that Hydra is operating despite Black Widow's data dump, which was also an ongoing plot-thread in Agents of SHIELD at the time. Plus, the Quantum Zone is a clever way to visually foreshadow the weirdness to come in Doctor Strange. While Ant-Man might not tie in majorly, it finds little ways to do it. Well, maybe that was the reason and maybe it wasn't. We'll never know for sure. But those things seem quite inconsequential and it's a real shame if Wright and Marvel were at odds over such tiny additions to the movie. Regardless of who deserves the blame though I just wish we'd gotten Wright's version because the version we got, while good is far from great and certainly not one of the MCU's best. Whatever small amount of world building exists in Ant Man it was not worth turning a potentially fantastically creative movie into a fairly generic one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:10:53 GMT
But the finished Ant Man didn't really tie in either. Aside from the Falcon cameo, which was Rudd's idea btw not Marvel, there was really no universe building in the movie. Also Wright doesn't cite that as his problem. He said Marvel wanted to basically rewrite his script, which probably had more to do with creative direction than the MCU universe. Not just Falcon. I know not all are major appearances but SHIELD, Peggy Carter and Tony Stark are also in there. Also it touches on Pyms disdain for Stark Industries. Most of all, a major part of the story is about keeping Pym's technology out of Hydra's (and SHIELDs) hands There's nothing that suggests Wright specifically refused those additions. But the movie was always about stealing the tech back from Pym Industries. Was the inclusion of SHIELD really necessary? It's a nice bit of backstory but it's basically a glorified Easter egg. Pym's history with Shield has no real bearing on the MCU as a whole. It didn't need to be there. But again, the interference was almost certainly more intense and probably had to do more with creating a marketable movie than including references to the larger universe.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 26, 2017 19:13:05 GMT
You're really reaching right now. Grasping straws because you can't make a compelling argument against Marvel. Nope, I'm just applying common sense. You're the 1 who's grasping at straws because you have no argument and no defense for MCU retconning Strucker's execution by Captain America's hands.
But try to answer these 2 questions HONESTLY:
1. When you see a movie where a normal human being gets shot in the back of the head, do you think that he's just unconscious unless someone in the movie explicitly says "He's dead" or do you think that he's dead?
2. Do you think that a normal human being can survive getting smashed in the head by a shield that's harder than Thor's hammer?
You really want to get into human anatomy here, how did Batman survive being thrown/carried ten stories thru a building including the floors and walls then thrown violently down onto the roof? You really think that big metal suit protected him, then guess again, it's exactly like Indiana Jones with the fridge, ignoring the laws of momentum, you will not survive being thrown around while shileded by metal. Batman would have been dead.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 26, 2017 19:14:05 GMT
If you work for Wall Street studios they are going to shove their heads up your ass and puppeteer you. They pay you enough to tell the media what a wonderful time you had with a boardroom of bankers up your ass.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 26, 2017 19:35:56 GMT
Marvel's "intrusiveness" has been dealt with around the time of Age of Ultron. There was a go-between committee that was screwing things up. Now it goes straight from Marvel Studios to Disney. Also, again, it wasn't Marvel that screwed it up with Wright. It was Wright. If Wright was the only Director that left MCU due to creative differences, then you could make a case that Wright screwed it up. But when multiple Directors leave MCU due to creative differences, the commonality is MCU screwing it up. When was the last time a director left an in production MCU movie? Thor 2? And that was before AoU. Age of Ultron was when they got rid of the committee because they were the ones that made Whedon leave the MCU as a whole. Now on the flip side, how many directors left DC movies? I bet it's more than the MCU. When is that Flash movie coming out? They can't keep a director on that. Again, Wright screwed up his time on the Ant-man movie because he didn't want to make a movie in the MCU. He wanted to make a random Ant-man movie and when he couldn't he stopped working on it and went and made a movie for a friend. This delayed Ant-man to the point the character couldn't appear in The Avengers. He cries about being a director for hire. What did he think he was when they came to him to make an Ant-man movie. He didn't go to them with an Ant-man movie idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:43:48 GMT
Not just Falcon. I know not all are major appearances but SHIELD, Peggy Carter and Tony Stark are also in there. Also it touches on Pyms disdain for Stark Industries. Most of all, a major part of the story is about keeping Pym's technology out of Hydra's (and SHIELDs) hands There's nothing that suggests Wright specifically refused those additions. But the movie was always about stealing the tech back from Pym Industries. Was the inclusion of SHIELD really necessary? It's a nice bit of backstory but it's basically a glorified Easter egg. Pym's history with Shield has no real bearing on the MCU as a whole. It didn't need to be there. But again, the interference was almost certainly more intense and probably had to do more with creating a marketable movie than including references to the larger universe. Um, yes, because its an excellent on-screen example of what made Pym so distrustful decades later. He doesn't trust SHIELD or the Starks to help take down Cross, and we're shown why right at the outset of the film and he later reaffirms it by stating he's fought to keep his technology out of others' hands and he'll be damned if he lets it fall into Tony's hands. So yes, it was necessary. It did need to be there and we have no idea how Pym's history with SHIELD will have a bearing on the MCU yet. Stop assuming.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 26, 2017 19:45:02 GMT
So now we know that DC-Fan half watches a movie then fill in the blanks with his own version as he leaves the theater. He does the same thing with DC movie except he tries to make the greatest movie ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:46:08 GMT
It also shows us that Hydra is operating despite Black Widow's data dump, which was also an ongoing plot-thread in Agents of SHIELD at the time. Plus, the Quantum Zone is a clever way to visually foreshadow the weirdness to come in Doctor Strange. While Ant-Man might not tie in majorly, it finds little ways to do it. Well, maybe that was the reason and maybe it wasn't. We'll never know for sure. But those things seem quite inconsequential and it's a real shame if Wright and Marvel were at odds over such tiny additions to the movie. Regardless of who deserves the blame though I just wish we'd gotten Wright's version because the version we got, while good is far from great and certainly not one of the MCU's best. Whatever small amount of world building exists in Ant Man it was not worth turning a potentially fantastically creative movie into a fairly generic one. Fuck Wright's version. The one we got IS great. I don't feel the film is generic at all. The very concept of Ant-Man alone makes it unique enough.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 26, 2017 19:51:06 GMT
There's nothing that suggests Wright specifically refused those additions. But the movie was always about stealing the tech back from Pym Industries. Was the inclusion of SHIELD really necessary? It's a nice bit of backstory but it's basically a glorified Easter egg. Pym's history with Shield has no real bearing on the MCU as a whole. It didn't need to be there. But again, the interference was almost certainly more intense and probably had to do more with creating a marketable movie than including references to the larger universe. Um, yes, because its an excellent on-screen example of what made Pym so distrustful decades later. He doesn't trust SHIELD or the Starks to help take down Cross, and we're shown why right at the outset of the film and he later reaffirms it by stating he's fought to keep his technology out of others' hands and he'll be damned if he lets it fall into Tony's hands. So yes, it was necessary. It did need to be there and we have no idea how Pym's history with SHIELD will have a bearing on the MCU yet. Stop assuming. And didn't Pym and Janet work for SHIELD as Ant-man and the Wasp? They went on missions for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:55:40 GMT
Um, yes, because its an excellent on-screen example of what made Pym so distrustful decades later. He doesn't trust SHIELD or the Starks to help take down Cross, and we're shown why right at the outset of the film and he later reaffirms it by stating he's fought to keep his technology out of others' hands and he'll be damned if he lets it fall into Tony's hands. So yes, it was necessary. It did need to be there and we have no idea how Pym's history with SHIELD will have a bearing on the MCU yet. Stop assuming. And didn't Pym and Janet work for SHIELD as Ant-man and the Wasp? They went on missions for them. Yes, they did. So Ant-Man also serves to fill the gap between Captain America and Ironman. Nick fury does state in his introductory scene that other superheroes already exist (since Hulk didn't count as one yet as far as they were concerned).
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jun 26, 2017 20:18:44 GMT
While Ant-Man might not tie in majorly, it finds little ways to do it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 26, 2017 20:30:10 GMT
Hitting him in the head with the shield doesn't mean he's dead. Yes it does. Strucker didn't take any super PED like Steve Rogers did. Strucker is a normal human being.
And Cap would be able to control the force of the impact so it wouldn't kill him. Easy as that.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 22:34:22 GMT
The trench is in front of her? Its all around here. She would be attacked from all kinds of angles. The trenches werent straight as a line. They had all kinds of corners and curves.
The trenches may curve but they're not going to built in a circle because if it's built in a circle, then you're just shooting at your own soldiers. The trenches may curve it won't curve more than a 90% angle on either side.
It's like a goal in ice hockey. Sure, shots can be made at different angles into the goal, but all the shots are still going to be from the front of the goal. There's never going to be a straight-on shot into the goal from behind the goal or from any angle greater than 90% on either side of the goal. The same with the trenches. So all shots fired from the trenches, no matter the angle, will be slightly in front of her until she passes a certain point.
But Diana stood at a certain point where all the shots were still in front of her. Then she leaped into the air and landed inside the trench. So there was never any opportunity to fire at her from behind.
Also, the shield isn't flat. The shield is curved as well so the shield can block bullets that are coming at an angle near 90% on either side
If a movie is all english fine but if you are pretending that the wonder woman can speak all kinds of languages and you use them in the movie dont fuck it uo and they did. And if you are going to let people speak native languages let the Germans speak German. So I take it that you hate Munich since they have non-English speaking scenes as well as English-speaking scenes. Wonder Woman is pretentious crap that copied The First Avenger. Nope. Wonder Woman takes place in 1918. The First Avenger takes place in 1944. Do you MCU fans not know the difference between World War I and World War II? So you MCU fans think all movies abotu war are the same? So you MCU fans think that Saving Private Ryan is a copy of The Bridges of Toko-Ri because both movies take place during a war? Wonder Woman isn't a copy of The First Avenger, but the First Avenger is a copy of Superman: The Movie. Even MCU dictator Kevin Feige has admitted that The First Avenger and most of MCU's their movies are just copies of Superman: The Movie. The ancient Greeks lived around 2500 years ago. And Zeus was killed right after he hid the Amazonians and made Diana's mom pregnant right? He must have died before Christ came along otherwise he wouldnt be real good God would he now? The ancient Greeks were around before the founding of Rome (and thus before the Roman Empire) so Zeus was worshipped as a God long before the birth of Jesus. Given that the Roman mythology adopted Greek mythology (with Jupiter being the Roman name for Zeus), Zeus/Jupiter may have still been worshipped by the Greeks or Romans even after the death of Jesus. But whether Zeus "died" before or after Jesus is irrelevant because DCEU considers Zeus to be the Creator of Man and therefore they treat Jesus the same as Judaism treats Jesus. Christianity believes that God exists as a Trinity and that Jesus is the Son of God. Judaism believes that God exists as a single entity and rejects the notion that Jesus was the Son of God. Judaism believes that Jesus was just another prophet, an important prophet but not the Son of God. That would appear to be the same view that the DCEU takes - Zeus is the Creator of Man so Jesus was just a man and not the Son of the Creator. So whether Zeus "died before or after Jesus is irrelevant in the DCEU because the DCEU considers Jesus to be just a man and not the Son of the Creator. its a safe bet that Diana was conceived well before 1 AD. Since she hardly aged a day in 100 years (see BvS and WW) she must have been child a long time ago. Makes sense right? Common sense even? So she was using a language that didnt exsist at that time. It's not a safe bet to say when Diana was conceived or when she learned to speak English because it's never indicated in the movie what year Diana was conceived or what year (or years) Diana was a child. Diana may have learned to speak English 1500 years ago or 1000 years ago or 500 years ago or even just 250 years ago. Except Strucker didnt die. You made that up. No, I didn't make it up. It's clearly shown in the movie that Cap executed Strucker in cold blood. Again, AoU clearly shows Cap smashing Strucker's head with his shield, which is harder than Thor's hammer. Since no normal human being can survive a blow to the head by a large metal object that's harder than a hammer, it's pretty clear that Cap killed Strucker. Then the movie later pretended it didn't happened and retconned it to say that Ultron killed Strucker in the prison cell when Cap had already executed Strucker earlier in the movie.
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