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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 30, 2017 12:28:55 GMT
I forgive you. And just to remind you that an ad hominem is just as fallacious reply in disputation as special pleading is. But I guess you have been told this before.
Evasion noted, too.
You don't forgive anyone. You're a sociopath. Also, to misquote Einstein, saying the same thing over and over again while expecting different results is a sign of insanity.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 12:31:32 GMT
You don't forgive anyone. You're a sociopath. Also, to misquote Einstein, saying the same thing over and over again while expecting different results is a sign of insanity. Then I suggest you stop saying, "I forgive you." It's so lame. Not even your fellow sociopaths are going to be fooled by that bit of silliness.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 30, 2017 12:37:30 GMT
I suggest you stop saying, "I forgive you." It's so lame. I actually think it a worthy aim. And, if you reflect carefully, I am sure you can find a religion which agrees with me, and indeed makes out of such matters a lot. Hint: Col. 3:13) I still forgive you. If you spent more time looking for unambiguous signs of your god and less on insulting me, I am sure things would move along much quicker lol
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 12:47:44 GMT
I suggest you stop saying, "I forgive you." It's so lame. I actually think it a worthy aim. And, if you reflect carefully, I am sure you can find a religion which agrees with me, and indeed makes out of such matters a lot. Hint: Col. 3:13) I still forgive you. If you spent more time looking for unambiguous signs of your god and less on insulting me, I am sure things would move along much quicker lol Once again, do you see it as my responsibility to convince you and the other sociopaths that God exists?
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 30, 2017 12:49:28 GMT
Sorry to hear that. It was interesting to see that you neither dared to quote or tag me so I would be notified of your response, it was also very interesting to see that you did not repond to the main topic of my post. You honestly think that we have some evil plan? Well, now i'm of to plan B for world domination, dig free planting. Ooops, did I write that out loud? By saying we, are you implying that I think you may be one of the designers of the evil plan? No, I don't think that at all. I don't even think Al Gore helped to designed it or necessarily even knows about it. He's just a tool. So how is scientists tools for this evil plan, when the results are interpreted by our own brains after we have studied the data gathered? You perhaps think that they tell us what we should find in the future when we go to university? Like "yezziqa, in 20 years you will notice that there has been an increase of green house gases when you melt the ice core you are going to extract from that glacier"? Or perhaps they go there before me and just know where I will drill in 20 years and mess with the ice, putting pollen in every spring season layer they want me to find and changing the composition of the gas trapped in the ice etc?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 13:01:20 GMT
By saying we, are you implying that I think you may be one of the designers of the evil plan? No, I don't think that at all. I don't even think Al Gore helped to designed it or necessarily even knows about it. He's just a tool. So how is scientists tools for this evil plan, when the results are interpreted by our own brains after we have studied the data gathered? You perhaps think that they tell us what we should find in the future when we go to university? Like "yezziqa, in 20 years you will notice that there has been an increase of green house gases when you melt the ice core you are going to extract from that glacier"? Or perhaps they go there before me and just know where I will drill in 20 years and mess with the ice, putting pollen in every spring season layer they want me to find and changing the composition of the gas trapped in the ice etc? Well, it's kind of like this. You start in reverse with the desired conclusion (humans are destroying the planet with CO2), and then you rig the data to support said conclusion. And if anyone doesn't buy it, you tell them that they don't understand science, and that thinking like theirs is ruining the planet for future generations. I can't help feeling that I'm telling you something here that you already knew, but if nothing else you put me to the trouble of explaining it again.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 30, 2017 13:08:36 GMT
I actually think it a worthy aim. And, if you reflect carefully, I am sure you can find a religion which agrees with me, and indeed makes out of such matters a lot. Hint: Col. 3:13) I still forgive you. If you spent more time looking for unambiguous signs of your god and less on insulting me, I am sure things would move along much quicker lol Once again, do you see it as my responsibility to convince you and the other sociopaths that God exists? No, I think there are others who have obviously thought much more about all these sorts of matters and don't just insult by way of answer, then evade things when pushed. But thanks for offering, anyway.
Let me know when you find your god.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jun 30, 2017 13:10:29 GMT
So how is scientists tools for this evil plan, when the results are interpreted by our own brains after we have studied the data gathered? You perhaps think that they tell us what we should find in the future when we go to university? Like "yezziqa, in 20 years you will notice that there has been an increase of green house gases when you melt the ice core you are going to extract from that glacier"? Or perhaps they go there before me and just know where I will drill in 20 years and mess with the ice, putting pollen in every spring season layer they want me to find and changing the composition of the gas trapped in the ice etc? Well, it's kind of like this. You start in reverse with the desired conclusion (humans are destroying the planet with CO2), and then you rig the data to support said conclusion. And if anyone doesn't buy it, you tell them that they don't understand science, and that thinking like theirs is ruining the planet for future generations. I can't help feeling that I'm telling you something here that you already knew, but if nothing else you put me to the trouble of explaining it again. Do you have any evidence that data has been rigged? Did you forget that you foolishly thought that global warming was because "Carbon dioxide levels are too low", then, when you found out the opposite was true, you continued to make the same claim about two opposing beliefs?
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 30, 2017 13:19:10 GMT
So how is scientists tools for this evil plan, when the results are interpreted by our own brains after we have studied the data gathered? You perhaps think that they tell us what we should find in the future when we go to university? Like "yezziqa, in 20 years you will notice that there has been an increase of green house gases when you melt the ice core you are going to extract from that glacier"? Or perhaps they go there before me and just know where I will drill in 20 years and mess with the ice, putting pollen in every spring season layer they want me to find and changing the composition of the gas trapped in the ice etc? Well, it's kind of like this. You start in reverse with the desired conclusion (humans are destroying the planet with CO2), and then you rig the data to support said conclusion. And if anyone doesn't buy it, you tell them that they don't understand science, and that thinking like theirs is ruining the planet for future generations. I can't help feeling that I'm telling you something here that you already knew, but if nothing else you put me to the trouble of explaining it again. Cheating scientist do pop up from time to time, but the thing is, that if they are caught (and they most often are), they will never work again. If I submit my results and conclusions, there will be a hearing where a panel check them out, after they find no faults, others can read it to (like you), so I will always be aware of that my results and conclusions will be tested by someone else (this is actually something science want's other scientists to do, we are always trying to prove ourselves wrong). You have most definitely been one of those trying scientific results in high school, when you destilled something or made magnesium burn. Yes, those that don't believe in that humanity can change the climate don't know much about the scientific method or are on an agenda. It is actually those that you need to worry about. There are a hell of a lot more money to be made from oil, than from science. That should make you stop and think. I'm not rich, I will probably never be rich (if I don't win the lottery, but as I never buy lottery tickets,it is very unlikely to happen), I just want to save the planet, like many of us in that field do.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 13:28:09 GMT
Once again, do you see it as my responsibility to convince you and the other sociopaths that God exists? No, I think there are others who have obviously thought much more about all these sorts of matters and don't just insult by way of answer, then evade things when pushed. But thanks for offering, anyway.
Let me know when you find your god.
Calling you what you are is not an insult.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 30, 2017 13:38:38 GMT
No, I think there are others who have obviously thought much more about all these sorts of matters and don't just insult by way of answer, then evade things when pushed. But thanks for offering, anyway.
Let me know when you find your god.
Calling you what you are is not an insult. Erjen, if I was to call you what you are, it would probably insult anyone... but instead I shall continue to forgive.
God found yet? Should I extend the deadline?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 13:46:12 GMT
Well, it's kind of like this. You start in reverse with the desired conclusion (humans are destroying the planet with CO2), and then you rig the data to support said conclusion. And if anyone doesn't buy it, you tell them that they don't understand science, and that thinking like theirs is ruining the planet for future generations. I can't help feeling that I'm telling you something here that you already knew, but if nothing else you put me to the trouble of explaining it again. Cheating scientist do pop up from time to time, but the thing is, that if they are caught (and they most often are), they will never work again. If I submit my results and conclusions, there will be a hearing where a panel check them out, after they find no faults, others can read it to (like you), so I will always be aware of that my results and conclusions will be tested by someone else (this is actually something science want's other scientists to do, we are always trying to prove ourselves wrong). You have most definitely been one of those trying scientific results in high school, when you destilled something or made magnesium burn. Yes, those that don't believe in that humanity can change the climate don't know much about the scientific method or are on an agenda. It is actually those that you need to worry about. There are a hell of a lot more money to be made from oil, than from science. That should make you stop and think. I'm not rich, I will probably never be rich (if I don't win the lottery, but as I never buy lottery tickets,it is very unlikely to happen), I just want to save the planet, like many of us in that field do. I don't believe you. That doesn't mean you're not sincere, of course. For all I know you may believe what you say. www.prisonplanet.com/ipcc-scientists-caught-producing-false-data-to-push-global-warming.htmlCinemachinery tried the "big oil" angle a few times when I talked about this topic. I expect as much. Obama promised to explore alternative fuel sources, and I must admit he certainly did keep that promise, but after trillions of dollars were poured into exploration nothing really changed. Don't you think it might be better to oppose the oil companies directly instead of trying to lay a guilt trip on those of us who are fed up with falsified scientific research? The climate is changing all right, but if I had the power to cut off the funding for the "global warming" scam I would do it, and then you would see how fast interest in saving the planet wanes.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 13:50:15 GMT
Calling you what you are is not an insult. Erjen, if I was to call you what you are, it would probably insult anyone... but instead I shall continue to forgive.
God found yet? Should I extend the deadline?
You don't forgive anything. You are a sociopath with no morals. There is no deadline, and you're not making the point that you think you are. If you don't want to believe in God, you don't have to, but it's strange how you acknowledge the existence of dimensions undiscerned by human senses yet do not allow the possibility that consciousness can exist in those other dimensions. Don't you think that's strange? I think it's strange.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 30, 2017 13:56:47 GMT
You don't forgive anything. Again: don't tell me when I choose to forgive. Remember what I said about personal insults not being a real argument? I do. There is, since I haven't all day for you to show me you can tell the difference between a real and false god. No need to when you are making it for me, over and over lol Thank you, that is very kind. Please quote where I say that 'consciousness cannot exist in other dimensions'. Is it yours that's there? It might explain a lot. A lot of things apparently seem strange to you my friend from mystery planets to plane exhaust trails to the shape of the earth. I've read a lot of your posts, remember?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 14:01:58 GMT
You didn't say it, and I didn't say that you said it. What I said is that you didn't acknowledge the possibility. As you certainly must know, this is not the same as denial of existence.
If you acknowledged the possibility, then I missed it. Do you acknowledge the possibility?
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 30, 2017 14:12:22 GMT
Cheating scientist do pop up from time to time, but the thing is, that if they are caught (and they most often are), they will never work again. If I submit my results and conclusions, there will be a hearing where a panel check them out, after they find no faults, others can read it to (like you), so I will always be aware of that my results and conclusions will be tested by someone else (this is actually something science want's other scientists to do, we are always trying to prove ourselves wrong). You have most definitely been one of those trying scientific results in high school, when you destilled something or made magnesium burn. Yes, those that don't believe in that humanity can change the climate don't know much about the scientific method or are on an agenda. It is actually those that you need to worry about. There are a hell of a lot more money to be made from oil, than from science. That should make you stop and think. I'm not rich, I will probably never be rich (if I don't win the lottery, but as I never buy lottery tickets,it is very unlikely to happen), I just want to save the planet, like many of us in that field do. I don't believe you. That doesn't mean you're not sincere, of course. For all I know you may believe what you say. www.prisonplanet.com/ipcc-scientists-caught-producing-false-data-to-push-global-warming.htmlCinemachinery tried the "big oil" angle a few times when I talked about this topic. I expect as much. Obama promised to explore alternative fuel sources, and I must admit he certainly did keep that promise, but after trillions of dollars were poured into exploration nothing really changed. Don't you think it might be better to oppose the oil companies directly instead of trying to lay a guilt trip on those of us who are fed up with falsified scientific research? The climate is changing all right, but if I had the power to cut off the funding for the "global warming" scam I would do it, and then you would see how fast interest in saving the planet wanes. Things have changed a lot, perhaps not in your country, but in others. And yes, exploring for better ways do cost money, but not doing it will cost even more. If we don't do something right now, there will be nothing left to save, hoefully it is not to late, but considering the demise of poillinating insects, I am deeply worried. So, you think that money from oil has nothing to do with it. Greed is the largest danger this planet has faced, it kills people picking bananas, it kills cotton farmers, it even kills our children. It poisons land, it destroys ecosystems, but suddenly, when it comes to oil, greed are non existant? Are you saying that all those teenagers testing magnisium lied? Or you honestly think that I spent 12 years at university just to throw that away to falsify data? That is just what we do through taxes and regulations.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 30, 2017 14:18:57 GMT
More than anything else, it was the absurd "global warming" thing that did it. I realized that it is not about real science. It is about thought control. And since they are undoubtedly lying about it, doesn't it make one wonder as to what else they may be lying about? www.globalwarminghoax.com/page.php?8
Because not having a TV is really shit.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 14:24:59 GMT
This is the part that always kills me: Do what? What do we need to do? Vote for green politicians and use less electricity? I've heard that one before. Pathetic. Here is what I believe the real problem is: And it isn't going to be stopped. It is going to do what it is foretold to do. All that can be done is to prepare for the aftermath, which is being done as quietly as possible, and keep the public stupid and distracted. That is why the "global warming" scam was invented. Saving the planet has little or nothing to do with it.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jun 30, 2017 14:27:40 GMT
This is the part that always kills me: Do what? What do we need to do? Vote for green politicians and use less electricity? I've heard that one before. Pathetic. Here is what I believe the real problem is: And it isn't going to be stopped. It is going to do what it is foretold to do. All that can be done is to prepare for the aftermath, which is being done as quietly as possible, and keep the public stupid and distracted. That is why the "global warming" scam was invented. Saving the planet has little or nothing to do with it. Evidence?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2017 14:28:55 GMT
More than anything else, it was the absurd "global warming" thing that did it. I realized that it is not about real science. It is about thought control. And since they are undoubtedly lying about it, doesn't it make one wonder as to what else they may be lying about? www.globalwarminghoax.com/page.php?8
Because not having a TV is really shit.
Not having a TV anymore is one of the best things that happened to me.
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