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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 27, 2017 16:15:37 GMT
Apparently, The 2 Directors of the "HAN SOLO" Movie really were at fault for what was wrong with it. They apparently (again!), were making changes to Lawrence Kasdan's script without his approval, they were not giving him any input on set, they were not listening to reason from both him and Kathleen Kennedy, and even worse....they were also apparently (again!) turning the movie into some sort of a comedy like their previous movies.
Now of course, I don't know if all of that is indeed true (so far, we have only heard 1 side of the story) but if it is then I think that Ron Howard should just throw out everything that was filmed and start all over with the cast & crew and stick with Lawrence Kasdan's original script without whatever changes that had been made to it without his consent. What does everyone else think ?
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Post by politicidal on Jun 27, 2017 16:17:25 GMT
I think a lot of heads are gonna roll if this turns out bad.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2017 16:19:48 GMT
I think a lot of heads are gonna roll if this turns out bad.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 27, 2017 16:23:20 GMT
I think a lot of heads are gonna roll if this turns out bad. Oh That's Not Something You Need To Think!.....It will Definitely Happen if it is Bad!
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Post by Jerk on Jun 27, 2017 16:54:33 GMT
They didn't need Kasdans approval for script changes. He's just a writer for hire. It's the producers they need to compromise with.
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Post by johnspartan on Jun 27, 2017 16:55:28 GMT
I think a lot of heads are gonna roll if this turns out bad. If it makes money, Disney won't care if it turns out bad, like The Force Awakens.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 27, 2017 19:00:50 GMT
I think a lot of heads are gonna roll if this turns out bad. If it makes money, Disney won't care if it turns out bad, like The Force Awakens. LOL, I thought "THE FORCE AWAKENS" was a Great Movie!
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 27, 2017 19:24:35 GMT
The writers are at the bottom of the rung when it comes to final script changes. Heck, that's why they keep writers on the set. For further revisions.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jun 27, 2017 19:58:30 GMT
this project has seemed doomed from the outset.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2017 20:17:10 GMT
They didn't need Kasdans approval for script changes. He's just a writer for hire. It's the producers they need to compromise with. Not true: JUNE 20, 2017 7:24pm PT by Borys Kit 'Star Wars': Why the Han Solo Film Directors Were Fired
"Creative differences" is a term that is often used loosely when a director is fired from a Hollywood movie. But it actually appears to ring true in the case of Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, who have been let go by Lucasfilm chief Kathleen Kennedy from directing the Star Wars spinoff that centers on the fan-favorite character Han Solo. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the style and vision of Lord and Miller clashed with that of Lawrence Kasdan, the legendary screenwriter behind the classics Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark, who also wrote, with his son Jon Kasdan, the script for the Han Solo stand-alone set ( for now ) to be released in 2018. Lord and Miller ( 21 Jump Street, The Lego Movie ) have a comedic sensibility and improvisational style while Kasdan favors a strict adherence to the written word — what is on the page is what must be shot.
The creative clash, according to one insider, also came down to differences in understanding the character of Han Solo. "People need to understand that Han Solo is not a comedic personality. He's sarcastic and selfish," said that source. The friction was felt almost immediately after the movie began shooting in February, sources say, but the directors thought it could be worked through. Kennedy, the producer and head of Lucasfilm, decided to back her lifelong colleague, who shaped much of Solo's character in Empire and Return of the Jedi and who had a specific tone in mind for the new movie.
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Post by Jerk on Jun 27, 2017 20:42:12 GMT
They didn't need Kasdans approval for script changes. He's just a writer for hire. It's the producers they need to compromise with. Not true: JUNE 20, 2017 7:24pm PT by Borys Kit 'Star Wars': Why the Han Solo Film Directors Were Fired
"Creative differences" is a term that is often used loosely when a director is fired from a Hollywood movie. But it actually appears to ring true in the case of Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, who have been let go by Lucasfilm chief Kathleen Kennedy from directing the Star Wars spinoff that centers on the fan-favorite character Han Solo. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the style and vision of Lord and Miller clashed with that of Lawrence Kasdan, the legendary screenwriter behind the classics Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark, who also wrote, with his son Jon Kasdan, the script for the Han Solo stand-alone set ( for now ) to be released in 2018. Lord and Miller ( 21 Jump Street, The Lego Movie ) have a comedic sensibility and improvisational style while Kasdan favors a strict adherence to the written word — what is on the page is what must be shot.
The creative clash, according to one insider, also came down to differences in understanding the character of Han Solo. "People need to understand that Han Solo is not a comedic personality. He's sarcastic and selfish," said that source. The friction was felt almost immediately after the movie began shooting in February, sources say, but the directors thought it could be worked through. Kennedy, the producer and head of Lucasfilm, decided to back her lifelong colleague, who shaped much of Solo's character in Empire and Return of the Jedi and who had a specific tone in mind for the new movie. Kasdan still needs approval for every decision he makes. There's a reason they didn't just make him the replacement director. Even though he is the obvious choice.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2017 20:47:22 GMT
There's a reason they didn't just make him the replacement director. Even though he is the obvious choice. "The DGA has a strict rule which prohibits replacing the director with someone else from the film’s team except for a brief emergency. It's designed to discourage producers from forcing out a helmer and taking over a picture. And it means that despite speculation that veteran writer-director Lawrence Kasdan, an Executive Producer on the film who has written the new screenplay with his son Jon Kasdan, could step in to direct, such a move would violate the DGA rule."
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Post by Jerk on Jun 27, 2017 21:14:57 GMT
There's a reason they didn't just make him the replacement director. Even though he is the obvious choice. "The DGA has a strict rule which prohibits replacing the director with someone else from the film’s team except for a brief emergency. It's designed to discourage producers from forcing out a helmer and taking over a picture. And it means that despite speculation that veteran writer-director Lawrence Kasdan, an Executive Producer on the film who has written the new screenplay with his son Jon Kasdan, could step in to direct, such a move would violate the DGA rule."Like I said. There's a reason he's not the director.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 21:45:17 GMT
Apparently, The 2 Directors of the "HAN SOLO" Movie really were at fault for what was wrong with it. They apparently (again!), were making changes to Lawrence Kasdan's script without his approval, they were not giving him any input on set, they were not listening to reason from both him and Kathleen Kennedy, and even worse....they were also apparently (again!) turning the movie into some sort of a comedy like their previous movies. Who could possibly have thought that hiring directors with a track record of making comedies could result in them trying to make a comedic take on the material? Crazy. Just crazy. Nobody could have seen that coming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:01:16 GMT
Wait, let me get this straight. The guys behind 21 Jump Street and The Lego Movie...were injecting COMEDY into their film?!
If you hire Lord and Miller and then act surprised when they do their thing, you don't get any sympathy from me. It's like hiring Ed Gein as a set designer. What'd you think would happen?
On that note, heaven forbid a Shakespearean drama like "The Han Solo Solo Movie" be too funny. It's a stupid idea for a movie in the first place.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 27, 2017 22:02:53 GMT
Apparently, The 2 Directors of the "HAN SOLO" Movie really were at fault for what was wrong with it. They apparently (again!), were making changes to Lawrence Kasdan's script without his approval, they were not giving him any input on set, they were not listening to reason from both him and Kathleen Kennedy, and even worse....they were also apparently (again!) turning the movie into some sort of a comedy like their previous movies. Who could possibly have thought that hiring directors with a track record of making comedies could result in them trying to make a comedic take on the material? Crazy. Just crazy. Nobody could have seen that coming. The fact that Lord and Miller were actually doing all of that makes me wonder if they were even really "STAR WARS" Fans to begin with. Real "STAR WARS" Fans definitely have ideas for things that they would like to see in the movies but they definitely wouldn't turn "STAR WARS" into something that it's not which is a Comedy. That being said, I wonder what George Lucas thinks of all of this ?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2017 22:07:03 GMT
I wonder what George Lucas thinks of all of this ?
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 27, 2017 22:09:53 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2017 22:11:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:17:44 GMT
Who could possibly have thought that hiring directors with a track record of making comedies could result in them trying to make a comedic take on the material? Crazy. Just crazy. Nobody could have seen that coming. The fact that Lord and Miller were actually doing all of that makes me wonder if they were even really "STAR WARS" Fans to begin with. Real "STAR WARS" Fans definitely have ideas for things that they would like to see in the movies but they definitely wouldn't turn "STAR WARS" into something that it's not which is a Comedy. There's no real need for the directors to be fans of the universe. In fact in many ways it can be an impediment. And for me, it would be nice to see a different take on Star Wars. But then as Rich Evans said, the nasty little secret of the Star Wars universe is that it's really a very small and limited place. You're only ever going to see the same basic things in any of these movies. Who cares? He took the money, so it doesn't really matter what he thinks of it any more.
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