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Post by sublime92 on Feb 24, 2017 20:20:45 GMT
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 24, 2017 21:01:43 GMT
190 000? Okay, she adds the swedes moving back home to the number. Should we close the borders to them to? *giggling*
Hahahahahahahha, i got to the segment with the police station. Our police stations isn't there to just report crimes, we go there for a number of thing, like getting identity cards and passports. I've been to police station about 40 times in my life, not even once to report a crime.
"Brå, curiosly droped the backgrounds of those arrested from the statistics"
Sweetie, they were never there. We aren't as obsessed with race as you are.
"Staggering increase in rape"
I love how he dont check facts.
I also love how he says that a police station was moved because it was unsafe, but dont tell where it is. I cant find any record of this happening anywhere in Sweden.
And I would like to se the video with the police officers before editing, as it is now everyone knows that it is fake.
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 24, 2017 22:24:23 GMT
Yes, they were.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 24, 2017 22:42:30 GMT
I'm not going to watch a click-baity fear-mongering video.
But I remember that after Trump made his comment about "what happened last night in Sweden", some Trump supporters felt the need to spread the stories about supposed "no-go" areas in Europe again.
These rumours about no-go areas have existed for a while in the minds of alt-right fear-mongerers. And also included so-called no-go areas in France.
Guess what? Two years ago, I was in such a supposed "No go" area in France. At night. I went to a small diner (which also happened to collect donations for a local mosque), had dinner there, paid (not for the mosque), and left. Then I went back to my hotel, and nothing bad happened.
Maybe those alt-right fear-mongerers should all move to Antarctica and build a wall around it, so that no Muslims come to bother them. On the other hand, if the alt-rightists did this, I'd feel sorry for the penguins.
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 24, 2017 22:44:00 GMT
"Yes Sweden was obsessed with race" or "Yes,Sweden listed peoples race if they were accused of a crime"?
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 24, 2017 23:55:55 GMT
I'm not going to watch a click-baity fear-mongering video. But I remember that after Trump made his comment about "what happened last night in Sweden", some Trump supporters felt the need to spread the stories about supposed "no-go" areas in Europe again. These rumours about no-go areas have existed for a while in the minds of alt-right fear-mongerers. And also included so-called no-go areas in France. Guess what? Two years ago, I was in such a supposed "No go" area in France. At night. I went to a small diner (which also happened to collect donations for a local mosque), had dinner there, paid (not for the mosque), and left. Then I went back to my hotel, and nothing bad happened. Maybe those alt-right fear-mongerers should all move to Antarctica and build a wall around it, so that no Muslims come to bother them. On the other hand, if the alt-rightists did this, I'd feel sorry for the penguins. Well, I guess if nothing bad happened to you the one time you went out in a crap area, then that area must be ok. Using similar logic, some people walked in Belfast at night in the 70's without anything bad happening to them, so I guess the IRA wasn't actually a thing. Are you going to dispute the fact that Sweden has 55 areas where the police are unable to effectively carry out their police work due to criminal gangs, because you get what you got in Stockholm the other night?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 9:59:24 GMT
These rumours about no-go areas have existed for a while in the minds of alt-right fear-mongerers. And also included so-called no-go areas in France. Guess what? Two years ago, I was in such a supposed "No go" area in France. At night. I went to a small diner (which also happened to collect donations for a local mosque), had dinner there, paid (not for the mosque), and left. Then I went back to my hotel, and nothing bad happened. Anecdotes make for weak argumentation.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 25, 2017 10:41:03 GMT
Are you going to dispute the fact that Sweden has 55 areas where the police are unable to effectively carry out their police work due to criminal gangs, because you get what you got in Stockholm the other night? I am not denying that crimes happen in Sweden, and I am not denying that Trump sympathizers pretend that no-go areas exist. However, whenever people of that alt-righty mindset bring up so-called no-go areas, they almost always do it while simultaneously advocating for immigration bans and expulsion. I don't have a car and so far have never been involved in a car accident. But I know that car accidents happen, and that on average, 10 people in Germany die every day due to traffic accidents. However, you don't hear me advocating for a ban on cars. If no-go areas exist (and I am not saying that they do), then they should stop being no-go areas. Nobody should be above the law. But as long as the answer of those who pretend that no-go areas exist is to stop immigration and ban immigrants, I guess they are fair game for mockery and being put on the same level as people who want to ban cars.
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 25, 2017 20:13:28 GMT
They do exist. At least they exist in the colloquial sense of the word, areas where the police cannot work effectively.
Which has what to do with anything?
Yes....
And if immigration is causing the no go areas?
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Post by phludowin on Feb 25, 2017 20:19:23 GMT
And if immigration is causing the no go areas? If no-go areas exist and immigration is causing them, then it should be no problem to prove that it's indeed immigration that is causing them.
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 25, 2017 20:22:17 GMT
And if immigration is causing the no go areas? If no-go areas exist and immigration is causing them, then it should be no problem to prove that it's indeed immigration that is causing them. How about you answer the question, rather than deflecting?
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Post by phludowin on Feb 25, 2017 20:28:44 GMT
How about you answer the question, rather than deflecting?[/quote] Answering a hypothetical question with a faulty premise is a waste of time. Like asking if fairies should be granted special rights, if they are the ones that makes flowers grow. Or banning dance festivals in Australia, if they cause car accidents in Europe.
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 25, 2017 21:24:54 GMT
How about you answer the question, rather than deflecting? Demonstrate the premise is faulty.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 25, 2017 21:30:18 GMT
Demonstrate the premise is faulty. Prove it isn't.
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 25, 2017 21:31:44 GMT
Demonstrate the premise is faulty. Prove it isn't. I don't need to. You claim you won't answer the question because the premise is faulty. Show it to be faulty or admit you simply don't want to answer the question.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 25, 2017 21:50:25 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 25, 2017 22:11:04 GMT
No.....you just showed that a reporter made something up. Well done. Now, Sweden has stated there are 55 areas where the ability of the police to work is greatly reduced and the activities of criminal gangs is negatively affecting the community. So how exactly does your link make my premise false?
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 25, 2017 23:35:36 GMT
No.....you just showed that a reporter made something up. Well done. Now, Sweden has stated there are 55 areas where the ability of the police to work is greatly reduced and the activities of criminal gangs is negatively affecting the community. So how exactly does your link make my premise false? The Local isn't like Fox "news", they actually report news and not fantasies. " No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incorrectly labelled 'no-go zones'. " Swedish foreign ministry
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 27, 2017 1:50:50 GMT
No.....you just showed that a reporter made something up. Well done. Now, Sweden has stated there are 55 areas where the ability of the police to work is greatly reduced and the activities of criminal gangs is negatively affecting the community. So how exactly does your link make my premise false? The Local isn't like Fox "news", they actually report news and not fantasies. " No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incorrectly labelled 'no-go zones'. " Swedish foreign ministry Yes, incorrectly labeled "no go zones" by the metric of a militarised or wall off zone. By any colloquial measure they are no go zones. Or do you think when people use that term they actually mean barricaded off, paramilitary controlled areas? Not even Fox News think that.
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 27, 2017 2:10:35 GMT
The Local isn't like Fox "news", they actually report news and not fantasies. " No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incorrectly labelled 'no-go zones'. " Swedish foreign ministry Yes, incorrectly labeled "no go zones" by the metric of a militarised or wall off zone. By any colloquial measure they are no go zones. Or do you think when people use that term they actually mean barricaded off, paramilitary controlled areas? Not even Fox News think that. You are really grasping for straws. Do you know that we have a fifth of your murder rate? 103 people got killed in 2015 with a population of 10 000 000. I USA you had 15,696 murders in 2015 with a population of 319 000 000. Do the math. Is the entire US one big no go zone perhaps?
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