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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jul 3, 2017 21:04:45 GMT
The answer to Sony's Venom-Verse problem is Miles Morales. They can skip Peter Parker altogether and create a true Ultimates type universe where there is no Peter Parker. No connection to the MCU - no tensions with Disney/Marvel or MCU fans.  A video breakdown of the rights agreement from Collider. One thing though, in addition to their producing fee, shouldn't Marvel get their licensing fee? After all, they did license the rights to the character to Sony, right? Or, did they flat out sell the film rights to Sony for a one-time flat fee (with the industry-standard 7-year lapse clause). SaveSaveSaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 3, 2017 21:07:33 GMT
The answer to Sony's Venom-Verse problem is Miles Morales. They can skip Peter Parker altogether and create a true Ultimates type universe where there is no Peter Parker. No connection to the MCU - no tensions with Disney/Marvel or MCU fans. A video breakdown of the rights agreement from Collider. One thing though, in addition to their producing fee, shouldn't Marvel get their licensing fee? After all, they did license the rights to the character to Sony right? Or, did they flat out sell the film rights to Sony for a one-time flat fee (with a 7-year lapse clause). SaveSaveI'd rather them work together to create a larger MCU, even if their part is only loosely connected. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:11:34 GMT
The answer to Sony's Venom-Verse problem is Miles Morales. They can skip Peter Parker altogether and create a true Ultimates type universe where there is no Peter Parker. No connection to the MCU - no tensions with Disney/Marvel or MCU fans. A video breakdown of the rights agreement from Collider. One thing though, in addition to their producing fee, shouldn't Marvel get their licensing fee? After all, they did license the rights to the character to Sony right? Or, did they flat out sell the film rights to Sony for a one-time flat fee (with a 7-year lapse clause). SaveSaveI'd rather them work together to create a larger MCU, even if their part is only loosely connected. Agreed. Just like comic books. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jul 3, 2017 21:11:42 GMT
The answer to Sony's Venom-Verse problem is Miles Morales. They can skip Peter Parker altogether and create a true Ultimates type universe where there is no Peter Parker. No connection to the MCU - no tensions with Disney/Marvel or MCU fans. A video breakdown of the rights agreement from Collider. One thing though, in addition to their producing fee, shouldn't Marvel get their licensing fee? After all, they did license the rights to the character to Sony right? Or, did they flat out sell the film rights to Sony for a one-time flat fee (with a 7-year lapse clause). SaveSaveI'd rather them work together to create a larger MCU, even if their part is only loosely connected. I know, ArArArchStanton but, sit with it for a while. It could be miraculous to have two Spider-Men on the big-screen at one. SaveSave |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jul 3, 2017 21:13:45 GMT
I'd rather them work together to create a larger MCU, even if their part is only loosely connected. Agreed. Just like comic books. Don't dismiss this out of hand, Raptor. Sony could leverage the hard-R trend and make Spider-Man movies like no one has ever seen before. SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:18:59 GMT
Agreed. Just like comic books. Don't dismiss this out of hand, Raptor. Sony could leverage the hard-R trend and make Spider-Man movies like no one has ever seen before. SaveSave Oh, yes, the trend that's doomed to die before too much longer, because it excludes the demographic that should be a natural part of the comic book movie audience. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 3, 2017 21:19:44 GMT
I know, ArArArchStanton but, sit with it for a while. It could be miraculous to have two Spider-Men on the big-screen at one. SaveSaveThat honestly doesn't sound appealing to me at all. I'm ok with Miles, but if they keep it separate I'm just not going to care. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jul 3, 2017 21:35:23 GMT
I know, ArArArchStanton but, sit with it for a while. It could be miraculous to have two Spider-Men on the big-screen at one. SaveSaveThat honestly doesn't sound appealing to me at all. I'm ok with Miles, but if they keep it separate I'm just not going to care. What isn't appealing to me is a Venom movie where Spider-Man is somehow a supporting character. It doesn't make sense. With great, big sharp teeth comes, ridiculously high dentist's bills? SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jul 3, 2017 21:38:30 GMT
Don't dismiss this out of hand, Raptor. Sony could leverage the hard-R trend and make Spider-Man movies like no one has ever seen before. SaveSave Oh, yes, the trend that's doomed to die before too much longer, because it excludes the demographic that should be a natural part of the comic book movie audience. Alright Debby Downer, tell me, what's so great about Venom that he deserves a movie and how does Marvel integrate his gooey majesty into their pristine vision? SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 3, 2017 21:42:19 GMT
That honestly doesn't sound appealing to me at all. I'm ok with Miles, but if they keep it separate I'm just not going to care. What isn't appealing to me is a Venom movie where Spider-Man is somehow a supporting character. It doesn't make sense. With great, big sharp teeth comes, ridiculously high dentist's bills? SaveSaveSaveSaveEh, if he can have his own titles, he can have his own films.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:30:30 GMT
Oh, yes, the trend that's doomed to die before too much longer, because it excludes the demographic that should be a natural part of the comic book movie audience. Alright Debby Downer, tell me, what's so great about Venom that he deserves a movie and how does Marvel integrate his gooey majesty into their pristine vision?SaveSaveSaveSaveFirst bolded statement: Nothing in particular, but Spider-Man's connection to the Symbiote IS the reason he exists. They're basically severing a huge chunk of Venom's story by putting a wall between him and Spidey. Second bolded statement: they really wouldn't have to work him into their larger scope vision at all. Despite his alien origins, Venom has pretty much always been a non-factor to the big picture of Marvel. He works a Spider-man villain and sometimes a campy antihero. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jul 3, 2017 23:56:11 GMT
What isn't appealing to me is a Venom movie where Spider-Man is somehow a supporting character. It doesn't make sense. With great, big sharp teeth comes, ridiculously high dentist's bills? SaveSaveSaveSaveEh, if he can have his own titles, he can have his own films. Mr. President, I don't think having your own title should automatically qualify you for your own movie. Admittedly, I've never read any of those titles. I just don't trust Sony to make good on their Marvel Universe implementation. In the end I suppose it's no different than Fox's X-Men. SaveSave |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 3, 2017 23:58:36 GMT
Eh, if he can have his own titles, he can have his own films. Mr. President, I just don't trust Sony to make good on their Marvel Universe implementation. Haha, fair enough! |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jul 4, 2017 0:02:57 GMT
Alright Debby Downer, tell me, what's so great about Venom that he deserves a movie and how does Marvel integrate his gooey majesty into their pristine vision?SaveSaveSaveSaveFirst bolded statement: Nothing in particular, but Spider-Man's connection to the Symbiote IS the reason he exists. They're basically severing a huge chunk of Venom's story by putting a wall between him and Spidey. Second bolded statement: they really wouldn't have to work him into their larger scope vision at all. Despite his alien origins, Venom has pretty much always been a non-factor to the big picture of Marvel. He works a Spider-man villain and sometimes a campy antihero. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way... Marvel is really going to earn their production fees if they can get this Venom nonsense to work with the MCU. This isn't life or death but, in my mind, once Tom Holland's Peter Parker enters the Sony Marvel Universe, it's canon. And canon, in the context of the MCU, is a serious thing. SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 0:40:17 GMT
First bolded statement: Nothing in particular, but Spider-Man's connection to the Symbiote IS the reason he exists. They're basically severing a huge chunk of Venom's story by putting a wall between him and Spidey. Second bolded statement: they really wouldn't have to work him into their larger scope vision at all. Despite his alien origins, Venom has pretty much always been a non-factor to the big picture of Marvel. He works a Spider-man villain and sometimes a campy antihero. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way... Marvel is really going to earn their production fees if they can get this Venom nonsense to work with the MCU. This isn't life or death but, in my mind, once Tom Holland's Peter Parker enters the Sony Marvel Universe, it's canon. And canon, in the context of the MCU, is a serious thing. SaveSaveI understand. I really hate the idea of having Spider-Man cut off from a huge chunk of his own world, though. The MCU Spider-man should have full access to all the characters associated with him as an option to appear in his films. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 4, 2017 0:43:30 GMT
Isn't Sony making a animated film starring Miles? Seems like they're testing the waters with him.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 5, 2017 17:47:25 GMT
I would support Sony striking out against Disney/MCU under every single circumstance BUT this one. Miles Morales is probably the worst comic book character I've ever had the displeasure of reading. He is utterly insipid -- Marvel Comics' equivalent to Rey from The Force Awakens.
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