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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 17, 2017 21:33:31 GMT
Another case of a "alpha white males are evil/failures."
Highly praised like the Sopranos which is the same theme.
The media owners and their colleagues praise it
not the audiences.
Similar thing in Canada when they did a movie on child molesting priests. Must see tv, they said.
These media folk of the tribe do not think very differently when it comes to this message.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 22:35:08 GMT
Idk what you guys are talking about. I was hooked by episode 2.
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Post by geezer on Jul 18, 2017 1:21:50 GMT
I thought it was great. The pace was slow at times, much better to binge watch without commercials or waiting a week for each episode.
But hey, I am not one of those people who think everyone has to like the same shows that I do. I never liked Friends, Fraiser, and many other shows people raved about.
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Post by bd74 on Jul 18, 2017 13:58:35 GMT
To this day, I have never seen even one episode of this show. I don't know if I'll ever get around to seeing it. Though, reading this thread makes think that the show is not all that it's cracked up to be.
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Post by mysterioman007 on Jul 26, 2017 14:32:25 GMT
I loved Breaking Bad. It took a while to get invested, but once I did, I steamrolled through it. Oddly enough, I've never rewatched it, so I can't honestly say it's one of my favorites, but I did enjoy it while it was airing.
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Post by wonderburstanger on Jul 29, 2017 1:48:08 GMT
Pretty sure fanboys will call you uneducated and simple and don't understand character development.
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Post by itsthatguyme on Aug 2, 2017 16:39:50 GMT
Its good overall but it's not SOOO AMAZING !.. as people make it out to be. The ending really isn't that great. It was a bit of a letdown to be honest.
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Post by itsthatguyme on Aug 2, 2017 16:45:36 GMT
Another case of a "alpha white males are evil/failures." Highly praised like the Sopranos which is the same theme. The media owners and their colleagues praise it not the audiences. Similar thing in Canada when they did a movie on child molesting priests. Must see tv, they said. These media folk of the tribe do not think very differently when it comes to this message. WTF are u talking about? It's a show about a teacher who becomes a drug dealer to pay for his cancer treatment and support his family. It's not as simple as " white ppl are evil" What kinda shows do u watch where there isn't any kind of struggle with the characters ..or conflict? Name one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 16:49:24 GMT
It was good but my friends went on and on about it like it was gonna make me jizz or something.
An okay TV show.
Move on.
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 2, 2017 16:51:38 GMT
The show is a 10/10 and one of the greatest shows ever made.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 2, 2017 17:15:24 GMT
WTF are u talking about? It's a show about a teacher who becomes a drug dealer to pay for his cancer treatment and support his family. It's not as simple as " white ppl are evil" What kinda shows do u watch where there isn't any kind of struggle with the characters ..or conflict? Name one. The underlying message is white man failure. Does it end with him deciding crime is bad and trying to redeem himself? I see they throw in white nationalists near the end as the bad guys. How many black or latino drug gangs do they show in the series and how malicious are they? Anything like real life? I know in the Sopranos they never portrayed other races as being violent and immoral like they did with the Italian-Americans. |
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Post by itsthatguyme on Aug 2, 2017 17:25:23 GMT
WTF are u talking about? It's a show about a teacher who becomes a drug dealer to pay for his cancer treatment and support his family. It's not as simple as " white ppl are evil" What kinda shows do u watch where there isn't any kind of struggle with the characters ..or conflict? Name one. The underlying message is white man failure. Does it end with him deciding crime is bad and trying to redeem himself? I see they throw in white nationalists near the end as the bad guys. How many black or latino drug gangs do they show in the series and how malicious are they? Anything like real life? I know in the Sopranos they never portrayed other races as being violent and immoral like they did with the Italian-Americans. Why would they show inner city problems in a show about a suburban white drug dealer? Haven't we seen blacks and Latino's portrayed in that way in like 90% of the movies and shows like Law and Order or pretty much any cop show? By your logic , every show needs to show Blacks and Latino's doing crime ? As for the Sopranos..again. WHY would the show focus on anything but Italian/ Sicilian Americans , when the show is about the Mafia. Isn't the Mafia run and founded by Sicilians and Italians ? Aren't all the Mafua members Italian ? How's that demonizing them? Did you watch Boyz n the Hood and feel like it demonized Black ppl? Do you watch the show cops and feel that as well? Cmon ..really? |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 2, 2017 17:43:13 GMT
Haven't we seen blacks and Latino's portrayed in that way in like 90% of the movies and shows like Law and Order or pretty much any cop show? By your logic , every show needs to show Blacks and Latino's doing crime ? To disprove the theory find me either a white character (white as in Western European-if blonde a bonus point--male, an extra point, tall and strong and attractive, one more point) who is presented as smart, moral etc. and/or a black latino character portrayed as a cruel irredeemable rapist, wife beater, etc. If you have seen the Joe Pantoliano character in the Sopranos who beats his pregnant heroin addicted girlfriend to death in a parking lot, you have your guideline--find me the equivalent of that with a different race, in a major media tv show in the last 20 years. I am betting 20 shekels you have a hard time finding one. The so-called new golden age of cable tv is full of bad white characters. Flaws have always existed, but flaws without redemption or a positive outcome is what I am talking about. The final message of the Sopranos was that Tony was irredeemable, his family corrupt, the psychiatrist had wasted her time seeing him. Its presented as black comedy but the message is irrefutable. I watched every episode of the show and they never had any positive or normal white characters. The two most stable recurring characters were the psychiatrist and her psychiatrist Peter Bogdonavich. Even the FBI characters were cold and cruel. On the other hand the black cop portrayed by Charles Dutton was hard working and moral. And the black student Tony's daughter ends up dating was also presented as smart and normal. |
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Post by itsthatguyme on Aug 2, 2017 18:04:32 GMT
Haven't we seen blacks and Latino's portrayed in that way in like 90% of the movies and shows like Law and Order or pretty much any cop show? By your logic , every show needs to show Blacks and Latino's doing crime ? To disprove the theory find me either a white character (white as in Western European-if blonde a bonus point--male, an extra point, tall and strong and attractive, one more point) who is presented as smart, moral etc. and/or a black latino character portrayed as a cruel irredeemable rapist, wife beater, etc. If you have seen the Joe Pantoliano character in the Sopranos who beats his pregnant heroin addicted girlfriend to death in a parking lot, you have your guideline--find me the equivalent of that with a different race, in a major media tv show in the last 20 years. I am betting 20 shekels you have a hard time finding one. The so-called new golden age of cable tv is full of bad white characters. Flaws have always existed, but flaws without redemption or a positive outcome is what I am talking about. The final message of the Sopranos was that Tony was irredeemable, his family corrupt, the psychiatrist had wasted her time seeing him. Its presented as black comedy but the message is irrefutable. I watched every episode of the show and they never had any positive or normal white characters. The two most stable recurring characters were the psychiatrist and her psychiatrist Peter Bogdonavich. Even the FBI characters were cold and cruel. On the other hand the black cop portrayed by Charles Dutton was hard working and moral. And the black student Tony's daughter ends up dating was also presented as smart and normal. The point your not getting is that |
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Post by itsthatguyme on Aug 2, 2017 18:16:17 GMT
Why should The writers keep perpetuating common stereotypes in shows? The whole point is to show the audience something that isn't common. It makes for a more interesting story. Why should they keep showing White Men as heroes over and over again, and non whites as villains over and over again? We've seen that story already for decades..and we will see it again. I can name countless examples of Whites looking morally right and non whites looking " bad ". The whole history of Hollywood has shown that. Just because nowadays a different story is being told that show non whites in a different light , you have an issue with it? Society in general always demonizes non whites , so why keep telling that story in TV shows and Movies? I don't think the White Mans reputation or social status is in any danger because if a few fictional portrayals on screen.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 2, 2017 18:44:35 GMT
Society in general always demonizes non whites , so why keep telling that story in TV shows and Movies? I don't think the White Mans reputation or social status is in any danger because if a few fictional portrayals on screen. What do you mean? The media is controlled by Wall Street. When the Rodney King incident happened, it was the cops that were demonized, not the criminal suspect who refused to stay down like the other two who were arrested. There was a case a few months ago of a black daycare worker in Baltimore who beat a white baby to death on surveillance camera. Where is the media coverage? A few years ago a black woman kidnapped a twelve year old white boy in Texas, tied him up and killed him by blowtorch. Where is the media coverage? Non whites are protected by the media, not demonized. The question is, why are there NO white role models at all? None. Zero. Even Hamlet is a story of redemption. Horatio. And that was a popular play for centuries. There is nothing wrong with stories that have unhappy endings, but this is not what we are talking about. This is a case where all the stories involve white male failure with no redeeming qualities at all. Over and over again. |
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Post by itsthatguyme on Aug 2, 2017 19:15:11 GMT
Ridiculous. Anyone can pick and choose ..for every story u have showing black ppl in a negative light or highlighting them , there are similar ones about whites and vice versa. Most crime is committed in the US by whites. Most drug users and sellers are white..yet Black people are arrested and sentenced 3 x more than whites are ? Black ppl only make up about 20 % of the population ( or lower ) yet they are arrested by police 3x more than whites are? They get harsher jail and prison sentences as well. A White Collar criminal does 10x as much damage by cheating ppl out of millions and billions of dollars , than a low level drug dealer Yet the low level drug dealer gets a harsher penalty? If you don't think something is queer about that , then u likely are seeing things how u wanna see them and not the truth. Racism exists and is a real thing that affects the lives of non whites pretty much every single day as long as they live in the US.
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Post by schicklgruber on Aug 4, 2017 18:03:50 GMT
Okay.
This group, that group, the other group, my group, your group. Stereotypes are the way our brains learn to organize the world.
I would suggest sticking to shows that make you feel better about yourself. Dancing with the Stars and the Bachelor are both quite popular.
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