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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 10, 2017 18:00:19 GMT
So I saw this on dvd recently. I wanted to see it in theatres and never got around to it. I regret not having seen it in theatres because its visually amazing, and has a very creepy mood setting throughout. I actually enjoyed it a lot. HOWEVER...
The last ten minutes of the movie... WTF? It really jumps the shark in several ways, almost as if its not even the same movie anymore. Did anyone else see this and agree?
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Post by naterdawg on Jul 12, 2017 22:05:39 GMT
I don't think anybody really cares, including me.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 13, 2017 0:32:25 GMT
I don't think anybody really cares, including me. Really pointless reply. --------- Haven't seen it, but I want to because unlike some people I'm not stuck in the 80s and enjoy modern horror.
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Post by naterdawg on Jul 13, 2017 0:40:05 GMT
I don't think anybody really cares, including me. Really pointless reply. --------- Haven't seen it, but I want to because unlike some people I'm not stuck in the 80s and enjoy modern horror. Wow. You didn't even see the movie. Then, I guess your reply was pretty pointless, too. Which is just the point. Nobody cares. Including YOU.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 13, 2017 0:42:17 GMT
I didn't reply to his question because I haven't seen the movie, but like I said, I want to. And I'm gonna report back when I do see it.
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Post by naterdawg on Jul 13, 2017 0:50:01 GMT
He asked if anybody saw the movie and if they agreed with him. You haven't seen the movie, therefore your posts are pointless.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 13, 2017 0:53:38 GMT
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Post by naterdawg on Jul 13, 2017 15:11:29 GMT
Well, that's pretty pointless.
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Post by Flynn on Jul 14, 2017 2:25:49 GMT
I haven't seen it, and so I can't comment on it, but I do appreciate that you posted about it. Contrary to what Naterdawg says, people do care. I hope someone does come along who has seen it and can converse with you about it.
Thanks for posting.
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Post by lostinlimbo on Jul 14, 2017 10:17:02 GMT
What i can you say, the third act eventually goes from suitably creepy to gratuitously over-the-top. It does feel like it's out of another movie. So I agree, maybe cheapening it, somewhat schlocky, yet it was still entertaining and there's something rather old-school, almost Universal monster horror or Hammer-like in its macabre reveal/ and payoff. Probably not top-drawer, which falls more on its execution, but I couldn't escape that feeling of classic gothic doom.
The lax, distorted narrative plays up the familiar mystery tropes, along with the audaciously framedd visuals that show it's influences. And how about those visual aesthetics, lush imagery and haunting compositions. I also wish I had seen it in the cinemas. It would have been a different experience, technically beautiful and a treat for the senses.
The story didn't wow me, but it's engaging enough. From its offbeat eccentrics to a willingness to shock by any means. The performances, suspense, atmosphere and production design are right on the mark. So even with its faults, the stronger aspects are that effective and ambitious, making it a yay from me.
In regards to Naterdawg's comment. If you don't care, but you reply... to say you don't care = pointless. Just a lame, witless attempt of sh!t stirring a genuine thread.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 14, 2017 14:50:26 GMT
What i can you say, the third act eventually goes from suitably creepy to gratuitously over-the-top. It does feel like it's out of another movie. So I agree, maybe cheapening it, somewhat schlocky, yet it was still entertaining and there's something rather old-school, almost Universal monster horror or Hammer-like in its macabre reveal/ and payoff. Probably not top-drawer, which falls more on its execution, but I couldn't escape that feeling of classic gothic doom. The lax, distorted narrative plays up the familiar mystery tropes, along with the audaciously framedd visuals that show it's influences. And how about those visual aesthetics, lush imagery and haunting compositions. I also wish I had seen it in the cinemas. It would have been a different experience, technically beautiful and a treat for the senses. The story didn't wow me, but it's engaging enough. From its offbeat eccentrics to a willingness to shock by any means. The performances, suspense, atmosphere and production design are right on the mark. So even with its faults, the stronger aspects are that effective and ambitious, making it a yay from me. In regards to Naterdawg's comment. If you don't care, but you reply... to say you don't care = pointless. Just a lame, witless attempt of sh!t stirring a genuine thread. ...there's something rather old-school, almost Universal monster horror or Hammer-like in its macabre reveal and payoff.
Agreed. And I would have been fine with that, except that I got the feeling more of psychological terror from the rest of the movie, rather than Boris Karloff monster flick. So that's what makes it jump the shark for me. And the finger smelling scene is just plain stupid. But so much else about this movie was so spot on that I still have to kind've recommend it.
Thanks for the comment.
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Post by lostinlimbo on Jul 15, 2017 4:57:09 GMT
It felt like they didn't know how to finish it off. I didn't hate it, but like you said, it doesn't fit (jumping the shark) and I can see why it disappointed viewers in its jarring tone swing to what had gone before it. Even during that finale it tended to over explain things, like motivations and character connections. Which the narrative did a good enough job sprinkling those clues (especially about institution's past) throughout for you to pieced together without the need of a heavy handed exposition drop. A more ambiguous and downbeat ending would have complemented its unsettling psychological build-up than the chosen direction of operatic Grand Guignol. The scene I wished it finished on was when Dane Deehan and Mia Goth are sitting together. He replies to her "Why would anyone want to leave"? And grins. Found that moment chilling. So simplistic, yet draining to hear that after what you went through watching this character. It was great delivery by Deehan and the imagery in that moment is impressive. Or at least something along those lines. For a commercial film, the risks it took, surprised me and in doing felt refreshing, even with it flaws.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Jul 18, 2017 16:19:08 GMT
I was thinking of streaming it, because like you, I missed it in the movies. Wouldn't have paid more than $7.00 to see it, but since I can get it for free, I have it on my list.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 14:49:07 GMT
I just saw it. Very good movie with an unsettling, nightmarish quality to it. I suppose the ending was a bit OTT but I didn't mind it. I liked the mythology of the baron and his sister, the water and the eels.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 15, 2018 16:13:55 GMT
I actually saw this in theaters. My biggest complaint is that it's not necessarily a complicated movie to figure out story wise. The big twist is easy to solve. However, as far as the atmosphere and cinematography was concerned, as a case of style-over-substance I was enjoying myself.
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