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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 15, 2017 5:45:34 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view.
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Post by gromel on Jul 15, 2017 8:48:10 GMT
Leave them alone and they'll leave us alone.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 15, 2017 12:33:12 GMT
Leave them alone and they'll leave us alone. He can't, he's a wannabe bully.
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Post by northernlad on Jul 15, 2017 14:51:09 GMT
You're absolutely full of it. You're a disgrace to DC fans every where.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 15, 2017 15:21:00 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view. Except BvS actually copied the Avengers. BvS was DC's reaction to the Avengers.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 15, 2017 18:37:15 GMT
You're absolutely full of it. You're a disgrace to DC fans every where. I think that's what he's aspiring to be, I think he hates DC and just wants to make their fans look bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 0:37:04 GMT
You're absolutely full of it. You're a disgrace to DC fans every where. I think that's what he's aspiring to be, I think he hates DC and just wants to make their fans look bad. He's succeeding wonderfully.
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jul 16, 2017 11:27:13 GMT
Civil War crushed BVS it was a superior film , SMH crushed Wonder Woman it was a superior film, DCEU in decline, DC Fan in panic mode
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 16, 2017 11:37:56 GMT
He's upset at Wonder Woman being a copy of Captain America: First Avenger and The 5th Element. So he's trying to find ways that Marvel copied a DC movie. He can't say that they copied the best of the franchise so he went to the better of the two movies with the most heroes (BvS and Suicide Squad).
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 16, 2017 11:45:41 GMT
He's upset at Wonder Woman being a copy of Captain America: First Avenger and The 5th Element. So he's trying to find ways that Marvel copied a DC movie. He can't say that they copied the best of the franchise so he went to the better of the two movies with the most heroes (BvS and Suicide Squad). And soon he'll be babbling about how Marvel copied DC's characters, when in truth DC copied plenty of their own contemporaries/predecessors to create Superman and Batman to begin with.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 16, 2017 11:46:37 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view. Except BvS actually copied the Avengers. BvS was DC's reaction to the Avengers. It's funny that the people behind the DCEU said that they are going to do it the opposite way of Marvel by bringing them together in a movie then doing their solo movies. But they already made Iron Man (MoS), Incredible Hulk through Thor (BvS, Suicide Squad), and First Avenger (WW).* Now they are heading into The Avengers with Justice League. If they weren't copying the MCU way of building this up, Justice League would have come right after MoS with them coming together like Justice League War. *Not saying they are copies of them, but are lead in movies to the Justice League.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 16, 2017 11:48:33 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view. Are you saying that BvS is the first movie with a recap?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 16, 2017 16:14:18 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view. Are you saying that BvS is the first movie with a recap? BvS is only the 2nd movie I can recall that shows a previous battle from the point-of-view of 1 specific character, but BvS is the 1st superhero movie to do it.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 16, 2017 17:32:26 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view. You're really grasping straws here. Who cares if they're copying each other?!?! Movies do it all the time. Get over it dude.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 16, 2017 17:52:48 GMT
Are you saying that BvS is the first movie with a recap? BvS is only the 2nd movie I can recall that shows a previous battle from the point-of-view of 1 specific character, but BvS is the 1st CBM to do it. So you are admitting that other movies have done it and it is not new to BvS.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 16, 2017 18:04:35 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view. You're really grasping straws here. Who cares if they're copying each other?!?! Movies do it all the time. Get over it dude. I'm just responding to all the MCU fans that claimed Wonder Woman is a copy of The First Avenger because both movies take place during a war. 1st, Wonder Woman takes place in World War I while The First Avenger takes place in World War II. There's a huge difference between the 2 wars. 2nd, plenty of movies take place during a war (e.g. The Bridges of Toko-Ri, The Great Escape, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List, The Zookeeper's Wife). It would be stupid to say that Saving Private Ryan is a copy of The Great Escape because both movies take place during a world war. And it's just as stupid to say Wonder Woman is a copy of The First Avenger because both movies take place during 2 different wars.
In fact, if we look at my examples above, those copies are more specific than Wonder Woman and The First Avenger taking place during 2 different wars. MCU is promoting Thor: Ragnarok not only by using Lex Luthor's line describing the fight between Batman and Superman as the "greatest gladiator match in history" but also by having posters of Thor facing off against Hulk, similar to the many BvS posters of Batman facing off against Superman. The copying there couldn't be more obvious than that.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 16, 2017 18:06:07 GMT
BvS is only the 2nd movie I can recall that shows a previous battle from the point-of-view of 1 specific character, but BvS is the 1st superhero movie to do it. So you are admitting that other movies have done it and it is not new to BvS. As far as I can recall, only 1 other movie has done something similar (not exactly, but similar). But as far as I can recall, BvS is the 1st superhero movie to do it.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 16, 2017 18:08:32 GMT
So you are admitting that other movies have done it and it is not new to BvS. As far as I can recall, only 1 other movie has done something similar (not exactly, but similar). But as far as I can recall, BvS is the 1st superhero movie to do it. So you are saying CBMs can only look to other CBMs for inspiration? You are really reaching to try and make the DCEU something better than it is.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 16, 2017 18:56:53 GMT
You're really grasping straws here. Who cares if they're copying each other?!?! Movies do it all the time. Get over it dude. I'm just responding to all the MCU fans that claimed Wonder Woman is a copy of The First Avenger because both movies take place during a war. 1st, Wonder Woman takes place in World War I while The First Avenger takes place in World War II. There's a huge difference between the 2 wars. 2nd, plenty of movies take place during a war (e.g. The Bridges of Toko-Ri, The Great Escape, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List, The Zookeeper's Wife). It would be stupid to say that Saving Private Ryan is a copy of The Great Escape because both movies take place during a world war. And it's just as stupid to say Wonder Woman is a copy of The First Avenger because both movies take place during 2 different wars.
In fact, if we look at my examples above, those copies are more specific than Wonder Woman and The First Avenger taking place during 2 different wars. MCU is promoting Thor: Ragnarok not only by using Lex Luthor's line describing the fight between Batman and Superman as the "greatest gladiator match in history" but also by having posters of Thor facing off against Hulk, similar to the many BvS posters of Batman facing off against Superman. The copying there couldn't be more obvious than that.
Again, films copy each other all the time, whether it's what's in the film or just through promoting the film. Not sure why you're acting like this is new all of a sudden. Not to mention, BvS ideas aren't particularly original either. Plus no one is saying Wonder Woman and Captain America take place during the same war. That's just you twisting words around as usual. It's just the concept of a superhero during a war. The MCU did it first with Captain America, now the DCEU does it with Wonder Woman. That's why it is essentially a copy. Not to mention they both have a shield and it their first time being revealed to society respectively. So yeah, there's a lot of similar stuff, but no one is saying it's a carbon copy of each other. Not sure why you can't get that thru your thick skull
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 16, 2017 19:47:10 GMT
I'm just responding to all the MCU fans that claimed Wonder Woman is a copy of The First Avenger because both movies take place during a war. 1st, Wonder Woman takes place in World War I while The First Avenger takes place in World War II. There's a huge difference between the 2 wars. 2nd, plenty of movies take place during a war (e.g. The Bridges of Toko-Ri, The Great Escape, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List, The Zookeeper's Wife). It would be stupid to say that Saving Private Ryan is a copy of The Great Escape because both movies take place during a world war. And it's just as stupid to say Wonder Woman is a copy of The First Avenger because both movies take place during 2 different wars.
In fact, if we look at my examples above, those copies are more specific than Wonder Woman and The First Avenger taking place during 2 different wars. MCU is promoting Thor: Ragnarok not only by using Lex Luthor's line describing the fight between Batman and Superman as the "greatest gladiator match in history" but also by having posters of Thor facing off against Hulk, similar to the many BvS posters of Batman facing off against Superman. The copying there couldn't be more obvious than that.
it their first time being revealed to society respectively. It's an origin story. The point of an origin story is to reveal the hero to society for the 1st time. If you're going to claim that's copying, then every superhero origin movie is a copy of Superman: The Movie because Superman: The Movie reveals Superman to society for the 1st time ever. Moreover, the reveal in Wonder Woman is nothing like the reveal in The First Avenger and is more like the reveal in Superman: The Movie.
Let's look at how Superman, Wonder Woman, and Captain America were revealed to society for the 1st time in their respective origin movies:
Superman - flies up, catches Lois, and then catches the falling helicopter with 1 hand, while John Williams' classic theme music (1 of the most recognized theme music in movie history) is playing. Saves Lois and saves dozens of people on the street who would've been crushed by the falling helicopter. Most iconic scene in CBM history.
Wonder Woman - climbs up the ladder, crosses No Man's Land, takes out a sniper at the top of the clock tower, and liberates the town from German soldiers. 2nd-most iconic scene in CBM history.
Captain America - does a dance with cheerleaders on stage for Stan Lee and punches out an actor dressed up to look like Hitler. No lives saved. No town liberated.
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