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Jul 23, 2017 17:34:04 GMT
Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 23, 2017 17:34:04 GMT
did horse or PLO get any tv coverage I remember seeing both games a couple times in the post-Moneymaker days, when they would show any poker game on TV. ESPN even showed Razz a couple times. No Limit Hold 'Em is to poker what 9-Ball is to pool. The game that lends itself to TV the best. If you don't have the possibility of the "All In" call, no one watches.
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Jul 23, 2017 17:39:19 GMT
Post by Jayman on Jul 23, 2017 17:39:19 GMT
did horse or PLO get any tv coverage I remember seeing both games a couple times in the post-Moneymaker days, when they would show any poker game on TV. ESPN even showed Razz a couple times. No Limit Hold 'Em is to poker what 9-Ball is to pool. The game that lends itself to TV the best. If you don't have the possibility of the "All In" call, no one watches. I used to watch the entire wsop coverage. I used to enjoy seeing the other games. You're right about people not wanting to watch the other games. But for me that would've kept me watching poker on tv. I just couldn't watch strictly no limit hold'em anymore. It just got to be too much watching the same game for years and years.
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Jul 23, 2017 17:50:42 GMT
Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 23, 2017 17:50:42 GMT
I remember seeing both games a couple times in the post-Moneymaker days, when they would show any poker game on TV. ESPN even showed Razz a couple times. No Limit Hold 'Em is to poker what 9-Ball is to pool. The game that lends itself to TV the best. If you don't have the possibility of the "All In" call, no one watches. I used to watch the entire wsop coverage. I used to enjoy seeing the other games. You're right about people not wanting to watch the other games. But for me that would've kept me watching poker on tv. I just couldn't watch strictly no limit hold'em anymore. It just got to be too much watching the same game for years and years. I tapped out watching poker for a while, but I like when ESPN started showing it live. The old coverage was just a highlight reel. Now you get a feel of what a grind a big tournament is. I do hate that Hold 'Em dominates the poker world. I grew up playing 7 card stud. I knew how to play that before I knew how to play Solitaire or Gin Rummy and long before I heard of Hold 'Em. Forget TV, the game has disappeared from the tables at any of the local casinos.
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Jul 24, 2017 0:59:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 0:59:47 GMT
Predictable finish. Ott couldn't do much against that enormous stack (the chips I mean, not Blumstein)
Remember in your 20s when you won 8 million? Yeah, me neither.
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Jul 24, 2017 3:58:25 GMT
Post by Jayman on Jul 24, 2017 3:58:25 GMT
I used to watch the entire wsop coverage. I used to enjoy seeing the other games. You're right about people not wanting to watch the other games. But for me that would've kept me watching poker on tv. I just couldn't watch strictly no limit hold'em anymore. It just got to be too much watching the same game for years and years. I tapped out watching poker for a while, but I like when ESPN started showing it live. The old coverage was just a highlight reel. Now you get a feel of what a grind a big tournament is. I do hate that Hold 'Em dominates the poker world. I grew up playing 7 card stud. I knew how to play that before I knew how to play Solitaire or Gin Rummy and long before I heard of Hold 'Em. Forget TV, the game has disappeared from the tables at any of the local casinos. I don't know how you feel about this, but when the big boom first started you really had some different personalities and the viewers got to know all the top players which was good for the viewer. Once all these amateurs and internet players came in full force you had the majority of the programs stacked with players that the viewers do not know and don't care about so I felt that hurt the product and made the viewer much less invested in it. The poker junkies just love the game and it doesn't matter to them. But for the casual viewer I think they were more likely to just tune out.
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Jul 24, 2017 9:56:32 GMT
Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 24, 2017 9:56:32 GMT
I tapped out watching poker for a while, but I like when ESPN started showing it live. The old coverage was just a highlight reel. Now you get a feel of what a grind a big tournament is. I do hate that Hold 'Em dominates the poker world. I grew up playing 7 card stud. I knew how to play that before I knew how to play Solitaire or Gin Rummy and long before I heard of Hold 'Em. Forget TV, the game has disappeared from the tables at any of the local casinos. I don't know how you feel about this, but when the big boom first started you really had some different personalities and the viewers got to know all the top players which was good for the viewer. Once all these amateurs and internet players came in full force you had the majority of the programs stacked with players that the viewers do not know and don't care about so I felt that hurt the product and made the viewer much less invested in it. The poker junkies just love the game and it doesn't matter to them. But for the casual viewer I think they were more likely to just tune out. Very, very true. The lipstick cam and Chris Moneymaker were part of the Poker boom. But the game got lucky with the big pros that were on top of the game at the time. Brunson, Ivey, Esfandiari, Laak, Negreanu, Matusow and especially Hellmuth were as made for TV characters as any WWE writers could come up with. Especially Hellmuth, Talented, hateable and unpredictable. Funny though. I met Phil Hellmuth at a WSOP satellite tourney in Niagara Falls. He was just supposed to put in a token appearance, just wave to the crown, yell "shuffle up and deal" and leave. But he stayed for the whole thing. He made sure to introduce himself to every (150) players and took the trouble to know their names and something about them. I played and got busted very early but hung around. Two and a half hours later, Hellmuth came up to me, remembered my name (I had no nametag) and asked my what happened. He might be a horses ass when he has cards on the table, but he's one hell of a nice guy when he's not playing.
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Jul 24, 2017 16:20:38 GMT
Post by koskiewicz on Jul 24, 2017 16:20:38 GMT
...luck is the key...
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Jul 25, 2017 0:26:58 GMT
Post by Jayman on Jul 25, 2017 0:26:58 GMT
I don't know how you feel about this, but when the big boom first started you really had some different personalities and the viewers got to know all the top players which was good for the viewer. Once all these amateurs and internet players came in full force you had the majority of the programs stacked with players that the viewers do not know and don't care about so I felt that hurt the product and made the viewer much less invested in it. The poker junkies just love the game and it doesn't matter to them. But for the casual viewer I think they were more likely to just tune out. Very, very true. The lipstick cam and Chris Moneymaker were part of the Poker boom. But the game got lucky with the big pros that were on top of the game at the time. Brunson, Ivey, Esfandiari, Laak, Negreanu, Matusow and especially Hellmuth were as made for TV characters as any WWE writers could come up with. Especially Hellmuth, Talented, hateable and unpredictable. Funny though. I met Phil Hellmuth at a WSOP satellite tourney in Niagara Falls. He was just supposed to put in a token appearance, just wave to the crown, yell "shuffle up and deal" and leave. But he stayed for the whole thing. He made sure to introduce himself to every (150) players and took the trouble to know their names and something about them. I played and got busted very early but hung around. Two and a half hours later, Hellmuth came up to me, remembered my name (I had no nametag) and asked my what happened. He might be a horses ass when he has cards on the table, but he's one hell of a nice guy when he's not playing. That's a cool story thanks for sharing that. From what everybody says Phil is a real class act and a super cool guy. As you say, when he loses a hand or gets knocked out of a tournament, he's not a pleasant person but I guess we all have our faults.
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