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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2017 16:21:11 GMT
In case Tony Stark and Steve Rogers die in Infinity War, who do you think should lead the Avengers? Please give a convincing reason for your candidate.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 17, 2017 18:39:19 GMT
In order:
1) Thor - Extensive experience in combat and intimate knowledge of the affairs of state. Has seen magical, extraterrestrial, and ordinary threats across the known universe and beyond. He makes mistakes more than he'll admit but is capable of learning from them. Basically a god, that helps.
2) Black Panther - Aside from a skilled combatant and crimefighter, Black Panther is a head of state that is capable of diplomacy while also unafraid to take matters into his own hands. He displayed objectivity when he resolved a key conflict in Civil War opposite both Stark and Rogers by capturing Zemo but sparing Bucky.
3) Vision - Extremely powerful and knowledgeable being with a pragmatic approach to his duty. His weaknesses is that he may prove too aloof for his own good and an ironic moment in Civil War shows that he's capable of being distracted by emotions same as his human colleagues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:53:31 GMT
There can be no other.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 17, 2017 19:49:28 GMT
There can be no other. Ten dollars!!!!!1
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 17, 2017 20:25:30 GMT
Captain Marvel
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 17, 2017 20:55:36 GMT
Black Panther. He's the Batman of Marvel, and you can't beat that.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jul 18, 2017 0:55:06 GMT
Captain Marvel if they do her well.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 18, 2017 1:47:29 GMT
Professor X
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Post by Hitman's Bodyguard on Jul 18, 2017 9:57:46 GMT
Black Panther would be a perfect leader. He is a skilled strategist and tactican.
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Jul 18, 2017 10:00:09 GMT
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2017 15:25:07 GMT
Black Panther would be a perfect leader. He is a skilled strategist and tactican. But he's not a team player and seems to veer a bit too much to vigilanteism.
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Post by miike80 on Jul 18, 2017 15:47:59 GMT
Vision - Extremely powerful and knowledgeable being with a pragmatic approach to his duty. His weaknesses is that he may prove too aloof for his own good and an ironic moment in Civil War shows that he's capable of being distracted by emotions same as his human colleagues. I always thought that since he has an infinity stone Vision would die in IW.maybe I'm wrong
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 15:58:58 GMT
Vision - Extremely powerful and knowledgeable being with a pragmatic approach to his duty. His weaknesses is that he may prove too aloof for his own good and an ironic moment in Civil War shows that he's capable of being distracted by emotions same as his human colleagues. I always thought that since he has an infinity stone Vision would die in IW.maybe I'm wrong He should die. This version of him ain't great.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 16:00:05 GMT
Black Panther would be a perfect leader. He is a skilled strategist and tactican. But he's not a team player and seems to veer a bit too much to vigilanteism. He's still young and I mean come on, his father died.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 16:25:10 GMT
Black Widow- she's experienced and ruthless.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 18, 2017 18:20:00 GMT
How about wormhole?
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2017 18:36:01 GMT
But he's not a team player and seems to veer a bit too much to vigilanteism. He's still young and I mean come on, his father died. Which means he's not the right fit for a leader, yet. He might be in the future, but from what we've seen of him he's not there yet.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2017 18:51:45 GMT
The way I see it:
Vision - great analytical skills, is worthy enough to lift mjolnir, unquestionable logic... but he can be a bit too cold and calculating. He's the kind of person who will kill a whole lot of people if it means the greater good. Not sure you'd want this as a leader for the Avengers.
Black Widow - somewhat similar to Vision. She'll do what needs to be done, whatever it is that needs to be done. She has no scruples. And she has a bit too much red in her ledger for other leaders to respect her morality. She's a great asset to the team, but probably not the best fit for a leader.
Hawkeye - has the benefit of being a respected SHIELD agent, a top end agent, which means he'll be used to giving orders and following them, plus will have a lot of battlefield experience. Problem is, Clint seems a bit too lax, like he's not the kind of guy who'd take being a leader too seriously. Plus he's been trying to get out of the gig for some time now.
Dr. Strange / Scarlet Witch / Spiderman / Ant-man - All of whom are too new to this superhero gig. Too green. They've only been in a few fights since they became superheroes and are probably not the best candidates for leader.
Winter Soldier - has far too much emotional and psychological baggage.
Bruce Banner - would make a great adviser but a horrible leader in the middle of a battle. No way he can give around orders while Hulked-out.
Falcon / Warmachine - both are actually very good candidates. Both have a good amount of battlefield experience, both have experience working with troupes, both are dedicated to what they do and are morally upright. The problem is that both are ultimately sidekicks, and I feel like the rest of the Avengers will have trouble respecting their authority. Do you really see them ordering the rest of the heroes around? I feel like the team would follow Black Widow more over these two.
So.... that leaves us with two candidates: Black Panther and Thor. Both have been born into royalty and have been trained since birth in a leadership role. Both are easily able to assert authority when needed. Both are credible warriors. Both have enough financial backing to fund the Avengers if needed.
Black Panther has the edge in being calmer and a better tactician. Problem is he's not a team player and, as far as we can tell, seems predisposed to vigilanteism.
Thor has the advantage of being the oldest among them and thus has the most battle experience. He's also led more warriors into battle whereas BP seems more a lone wolf. There's also the fact that he's powerful enough and physically imposing enough that he can keep the other Avengers in check if need be. Plus he's worthy to lift Mjolnir. The problem is that Thor isn't exactly the smartest when it comes to Earth, and he's definitely not the tactician that Panther is. But I'd still pick him as a leader, because the leader can always take advice from others regarding tactics but a leader must above all else have unquestionable integrity. And I just think Thor is more morally upright and noble, especially after having learned humility, than T'Challa.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 19, 2017 4:36:59 GMT
The way I see it: Vision - great analytical skills, is worthy enough to lift mjolnir, unquestionable logic... but he can be a bit too cold and calculating. He's the kind of person who will kill a whole lot of people if it means the greater good. Not sure you'd want this as a leader for the Avengers. Black Widow - somewhat similar to Vision. She'll do what needs to be done, whatever it is that needs to be done. She has no scruples. And she has a bit too much red in her ledger for other leaders to respect her morality. She's a great asset to the team, but probably not the best fit for a leader. Hawkeye - has the benefit of being a respected SHIELD agent, a top end agent, which means he'll be used to giving orders and following them, plus will have a lot of battlefield experience. Problem is, Clint seems a bit too lax, like he's not the kind of guy who'd take being a leader too seriously. Plus he's been trying to get out of the gig for some time now. Dr. Strange / Scarlet Witch / Spiderman / Ant-man - All of whom are too new to this superhero gig. Too green. They've only been in a few fights since they became superheroes and are probably not the best candidates for leader. Winter Soldier - has far too much emotional and psychological baggage. Bruce Banner - would make a great adviser but a horrible leader in the middle of a battle. No way he can give around orders while Hulked-out. Falcon / Warmachine - both are actually very good candidates. Both have a good amount of battlefield experience, both have experience working with troupes, both are dedicated to what they do and are morally upright. The problem is that both are ultimately sidekicks, and I feel like the rest of the Avengers will have trouble respecting their authority. Do you really see them ordering the rest of the heroes around? I feel like the team would follow Black Widow more over these two. So.... that leaves us with two candidates: Black Panther and Thor. Both have been born into royalty and have been trained since birth in a leadership role. Both are easily able to assert authority when needed. Both are credible warriors. Both have enough financial backing to fund the Avengers if needed. Black Panther has the edge in being calmer and a better tactician. Problem is he's not a team player and, as far as we can tell, seems predisposed to vigilanteism. Thor has the advantage of being the oldest among them and thus has the most battle experience. He's also led more warriors into battle whereas BP seems more a lone wolf. There's also the fact that he's powerful enough and physically imposing enough that he can keep the other Avengers in check if need be. Plus he's worthy to lift Mjolnir. The problem is that Thor isn't exactly the smartest when it comes to Earth, and he's definitely not the tactician that Panther is. But I'd still pick him as a leader, because the leader can always take advice from others regarding tactics but a leader must above all else have unquestionable integrity. And I just think Thor is more morally upright and noble, especially after having learned humility, than T'Challa. BUT WHAT ABOUT WORMHOLE?!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 19, 2017 4:44:02 GMT
The way I see it: Vision - great analytical skills, is worthy enough to lift mjolnir, unquestionable logic... but he can be a bit too cold and calculating. He's the kind of person who will kill a whole lot of people if it means the greater good. Not sure you'd want this as a leader for the Avengers. Black Widow - somewhat similar to Vision. She'll do what needs to be done, whatever it is that needs to be done. She has no scruples. And she has a bit too much red in her ledger for other leaders to respect her morality. She's a great asset to the team, but probably not the best fit for a leader. Hawkeye - has the benefit of being a respected SHIELD agent, a top end agent, which means he'll be used to giving orders and following them, plus will have a lot of battlefield experience. Problem is, Clint seems a bit too lax, like he's not the kind of guy who'd take being a leader too seriously. Plus he's been trying to get out of the gig for some time now. Dr. Strange / Scarlet Witch / Spiderman / Ant-man - All of whom are too new to this superhero gig. Too green. They've only been in a few fights since they became superheroes and are probably not the best candidates for leader. Winter Soldier - has far too much emotional and psychological baggage. Bruce Banner - would make a great adviser but a horrible leader in the middle of a battle. No way he can give around orders while Hulked-out. Falcon / Warmachine - both are actually very good candidates. Both have a good amount of battlefield experience, both have experience working with troupes, both are dedicated to what they do and are morally upright. The problem is that both are ultimately sidekicks, and I feel like the rest of the Avengers will have trouble respecting their authority. Do you really see them ordering the rest of the heroes around? I feel like the team would follow Black Widow more over these two. So.... that leaves us with two candidates: Black Panther and Thor. Both have been born into royalty and have been trained since birth in a leadership role. Both are easily able to assert authority when needed. Both are credible warriors. Both have enough financial backing to fund the Avengers if needed. Black Panther has the edge in being calmer and a better tactician. Problem is he's not a team player and, as far as we can tell, seems predisposed to vigilanteism. Thor has the advantage of being the oldest among them and thus has the most battle experience. He's also led more warriors into battle whereas BP seems more a lone wolf. There's also the fact that he's powerful enough and physically imposing enough that he can keep the other Avengers in check if need be. Plus he's worthy to lift Mjolnir. The problem is that Thor isn't exactly the smartest when it comes to Earth, and he's definitely not the tactician that Panther is. But I'd still pick him as a leader, because the leader can always take advice from others regarding tactics but a leader must above all else have unquestionable integrity. And I just think Thor is more morally upright and noble, especially after having learned humility, than T'Challa. BUT WHAT ABOUT WORMHOLE?! WORMHOLE! WORMHOLE! WORMHOLE!
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