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Post by xystophoros on Jul 22, 2017 1:13:00 GMT
...I will never watch or attend any Knicks game ever again.
I know, not much of a threat, even though I am a native New Yorker, and I've been a fan since I was a kid. But this is too much. There's talk that they would actually trade Carmelo and his 2-years, $54 million remaining, and take Ryan Anderson and his 3 years, $61 million in return.
How does that make any sense?
As much as I loathe Carmelo, he only has two more years on his contract, and if the Knicks keep him with Jackson out of the picture, he will almost certainly raise his trade value significantly, when a more attractive offer would allow the Knicks to get more value back by the mid-season trade deadline.
But Ryan Anderson? A guy almost 7 feet tall who averages 4.6 rebounds per game? Ryan Anderson The Undiesel, who loves pointing his stringbean arms at the sky like he's thanking God after he does the only thing he can do -- hit a three pointer while completely open because the other team collapses on Harden. Ryan Anderson, the megascrub who averages more turnovers than assists. Ryan Anderson, a player who has no value in any system except in Houston with D'Antoni, as a stretch four. Ryan Anderson, who can't guard a paper bag.
If they bring in this piece of shit in exchange for Melo, they should be automatically relegated to the D-League.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 22, 2017 19:59:35 GMT
...I will never watch or attend any Knicks game ever again. I know, not much of a threat, even though I am a native New Yorker, and I've been a fan since I was a kid. But this is too much. There's talk that they would actually trade Carmelo and his 2-years, $54 million remaining, and take Ryan Anderson and his 3 years, $61 million in return. How does that make any sense? As much as I loathe Carmelo, he only has two more years on his contract, and if the Knicks keep him with Jackson out of the picture, he will almost certainly raise his trade value significantly, when a more attractive offer would allow the Knicks to get more value back by the mid-season trade deadline. But Ryan Anderson? A guy almost 7 feet tall who averages 4.6 rebounds per game? Ryan Anderson The Undiesel, who loves pointing his stringbean arms at the sky like he's thanking God after he does the only thing he can do -- hit a three pointer while completely open because the other team collapses on Harden. Ryan Anderson, the megascrub who averages more turnovers than assists. Ryan Anderson, a player who has no value in any system except in Houston with D'Antoni, as a stretch four. Ryan Anderson, who can't guard a paper bag. If they bring in this piece of shit in exchange for Melo, they should be automatically relegated to the D-League. Im in Houston, and HEY IT'S A GOOD DEAL! ANDERSON FOR CARMELO...well...it's a good deal from my prospective  Come on dont be so selfish!  |
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 22, 2017 20:16:57 GMT
Oh the Rockets are sitting pretty with CP3, no doubt about that. When they gave the $80 mil to Anderson I thought they were out of their minds, and now it's come back to bite them in the ass because he's the main impediment to a Carmelo deal and they can't find a third team willing to absorb his salary without getting major assets in return. Teams won't even take the dude for free.
But honestly I think the Rockets are better off without Melo...they have plenty of offense with Harden, Paul and Gordon.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 22, 2017 20:35:06 GMT
Oh the Rockets are sitting pretty with CP3, no doubt about that. When they gave the $80 mil to Anderson I thought they were out of their minds, and now it's come back to bite them in the ass because he's the main impediment to a Carmelo deal and they can't find a third team willing to absorb his salary without getting major assets in return. Teams won't even take the dude for free. But honestly I think the Rockets are better off without Melo...they have plenty of offense with Harden, Paul and Gordon. No doubt...but if someone is gonna say,"FINE ANDERSON FOR CARMELO..." Whatcha wanna guy to do? Hell from where Im sitting that be a pure hose job. We gave up so many assets to get CP3, idk what's left for us to try and get Melo. (IDK if we even have any 1st round picks to give!) I do think they insanely overpaid Anderson, huge mistake. (Some teams are over-paying players now in FA.) If somehow the Rockets steal Carmelo, yea I get why, you as a Knicks fan, would be furious. Me...well  |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jul 23, 2017 3:08:56 GMT
anderson isn't a ball hog, tho.
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 23, 2017 5:13:45 GMT
Oh the Rockets are sitting pretty with CP3, no doubt about that. When they gave the $80 mil to Anderson I thought they were out of their minds, and now it's come back to bite them in the ass because he's the main impediment to a Carmelo deal and they can't find a third team willing to absorb his salary without getting major assets in return. Teams won't even take the dude for free. But honestly I think the Rockets are better off without Melo...they have plenty of offense with Harden, Paul and Gordon. No doubt...but if someone is gonna say,"FINE ANDERSON FOR CARMELO..." Whatcha wanna guy to do? Hell from where Im sitting that be a pure hose job. We gave up so many assets to get CP3, idk what's left for us to try and get Melo. (IDK if we even have any 1st round picks to give!) I do think they insanely overpaid Anderson, huge mistake. (Some teams are over-paying players now in FA.) If somehow the Rockets steal Carmelo, yea I get why, you as a Knicks fan, would be furious. Me...well No, as a Knicks fan I never liked Melo, I didn't like what he cost us, I hated his drama, and I can never see any team winning with him as its focal point. The only thing I want is for the Knicks to get decent value for him. If I'm looking at this from the Rockets' perspective, I would not give up much to get Melo. He's not a two-way player and the team doesn't really need the firepower. I mean, you've got Harden, CP3, Gordon, and good role players. Also, Melo has drama and bad blood with D'Antoni. CP3 is criminally underrated and people always, always discount how good he actually is. He's a complete beast in the postseason every year, and he remains by far the best pure PG in the league and the best PG at handling and taking care of the ball. People who think Westbrook and Wall are on par with him, PG-wise, are insane. There's a huge difference between a PG who averages 2.4 turnovers per game, and a PG who turns the ball over 5.5 times per game. So if I'm a Rockets fan right now, I'd be extremely happy. I think the combo of Harden and Paul is going to be something to behold, elevating the Rockets to a team that can compete with GSW. I also think it's going to virtually eliminate Houston's TO problem with CP3 running the offense instead of Harden. |
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 23, 2017 15:20:53 GMT
No doubt...but if someone is gonna say,"FINE ANDERSON FOR CARMELO..." Whatcha wanna guy to do? Hell from where Im sitting that be a pure hose job. We gave up so many assets to get CP3, idk what's left for us to try and get Melo. (IDK if we even have any 1st round picks to give!) I do think they insanely overpaid Anderson, huge mistake. (Some teams are over-paying players now in FA.) If somehow the Rockets steal Carmelo, yea I get why, you as a Knicks fan, would be furious. Me...well No, as a Knicks fan I never liked Melo, I didn't like what he cost us, I hated his drama, and I can never see any team winning with him as its focal point. The only thing I want is for the Knicks to get decent value for him. If I'm looking at this from the Rockets' perspective, I would not give up much to get Melo. He's not a two-way player and the team doesn't really need the firepower. I mean, you've got Harden, CP3, Gordon, and good role players. Also, Melo has drama and bad blood with D'Antoni. CP3 is criminally underrated and people always, always discount how good he actually is. He's a complete beast in the postseason every year, and he remains by far the best pure PG in the league and the best PG at handling and taking care of the ball. People who think Westbrook and Wall are on par with him, PG-wise, are insane. There's a huge difference between a PG who averages 2.4 turnovers per game, and a PG who turns the ball over 5.5 times per game. So if I'm a Rockets fan right now, I'd be extremely happy. I think the combo of Harden and Paul is going to be something to behold, elevating the Rockets to a team that can compete with GSW. I also think it's going to virtually eliminate Houston's TO problem with CP3 running the offense instead of Harden. No doubt, I agree with you again, BUT, put yourself in my shoes, a Houston fan. I know it's hard cuz youre a Knick guy....but hell with it, lets pretend the entire teams swapped. Meaning my Rockets, CP3/Harden/Gordon are now all Knicks, with the rest of our roster. Melo and company, all Rockets. Knicks say we will take Melo for Anderson. Come on you wouldnt take another talent? I mean....I think it's obvious who youd rather have, and if Knicks wanna be stupid and say,"Ok, Melo and Ryan Anderson (Maybe another scrub, like a 10-11th-12th bench guy for Melo) Man, ill take it. Melo has to know, youre basically Kevin Love. Lebron, Kyrie, than love. Houston would go Harden, CP3, Melo. I mean if the Knicks wanna be dumb dumbs and say Anderson for Melo, in my shoes, can you blame me going,"hell yea, come on down!" The thing that does worry bout my Rockets, we gave up some depth. Lou was a monster off the bench. While beverly is no CP3, the guy is a fn defensive little pest. He has heart, I love players that know, no Im not as talented as Harden or Westbrook or Lebron and bring everythin they got night after night. That's Patrick. Im js, we can ditch a scrub in Anderson for a semi star in Carmelo? Im being selfish, no doubt, can you blame me? BUT I get where youre coming from...but man get rid of Andersons contract and nab Melo...Ill try it. With that, a little OT fun. What do you think happens to Kyrie? He seems to wanna go to SAS/Heat/Knicks/TWolves. Which of these 4 could put a good package for him? (I dont see SAS giving up Leonard.) Maybe Kyrie for Melo? Kyrie for Dragic and Waiters? Aldridge for Kyrie? TWolves maybe Teague and Towns for Kyrie? What would you do, Im enjoying your insight and this convo my friend. |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jul 23, 2017 21:55:31 GMT
No doubt...but if someone is gonna say,"FINE ANDERSON FOR CARMELO..." Whatcha wanna guy to do? Hell from where Im sitting that be a pure hose job. We gave up so many assets to get CP3, idk what's left for us to try and get Melo. (IDK if we even have any 1st round picks to give!) I do think they insanely overpaid Anderson, huge mistake. (Some teams are over-paying players now in FA.) If somehow the Rockets steal Carmelo, yea I get why, you as a Knicks fan, would be furious. Me...well No, as a Knicks fan I never liked Melo, I didn't like what he cost us, I hated his drama, and I can never see any team winning with him as its focal point. The only thing I want is for the Knicks to get decent value for him. If I'm looking at this from the Rockets' perspective, I would not give up much to get Melo. He's not a two-way player and the team doesn't really need the firepower. I mean, you've got Harden, CP3, Gordon, and good role players. Also, Melo has drama and bad blood with D'Antoni. CP3 is criminally underrated and people always, always discount how good he actually is. He's a complete beast in the postseason every year, and he remains by far the best pure PG in the league and the best PG at handling and taking care of the ball. People who think Westbrook and Wall are on par with him, PG-wise, are insane. There's a huge difference between a PG who averages 2.4 turnovers per game, and a PG who turns the ball over 5.5 times per game. So if I'm a Rockets fan right now, I'd be extremely happy. I think the combo of Harden and Paul is going to be something to behold, elevating the Rockets to a team that can compete with GSW. I also think it's going to virtually eliminate Houston's TO problem with CP3 running the offense instead of Harden. harden & cp3 will have a huge fight in the 1st round of the playoffs---and the rockets won't get past that round. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 21:59:59 GMT
...I will never watch or attend any Knicks game ever again. I'm way ahead of you. |
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 24, 2017 3:26:44 GMT
No doubt, I agree with you again, BUT, put yourself in my shoes, a Houston fan. I know it's hard cuz youre a Knick guy....but hell with it, lets pretend the entire teams swapped. Meaning my Rockets, CP3/Harden/Gordon are now all Knicks, with the rest of our roster. Melo and company, all Rockets. Knicks say we will take Melo for Anderson. Come on you wouldnt take another talent? I mean....I think it's obvious who youd rather have, and if Knicks wanna be stupid and say,"Ok, Melo and Ryan Anderson (Maybe another scrub, like a 10-11th-12th bench guy for Melo) Man, ill take it. Melo has to know, youre basically Kevin Love. Lebron, Kyrie, than love. Houston would go Harden, CP3, Melo. I mean if the Knicks wanna be dumb dumbs and say Anderson for Melo, in my shoes, can you blame me going,"hell yea, come on down!" The thing that does worry bout my Rockets, we gave up some depth. Lou was a monster off the bench. While beverly is no CP3, the guy is a fn defensive little pest. He has heart, I love players that know, no Im not as talented as Harden or Westbrook or Lebron and bring everythin they got night after night. That's Patrick. Im js, we can ditch a scrub in Anderson for a semi star in Carmelo? Im being selfish, no doubt, can you blame me? BUT I get where youre coming from...but man get rid of Andersons contract and nab Melo...Ill try it. With that, a little OT fun. What do you think happens to Kyrie? He seems to wanna go to SAS/Heat/Knicks/TWolves. Which of these 4 could put a good package for him? (I dont see SAS giving up Leonard.) Maybe Kyrie for Melo? Kyrie for Dragic and Waiters? Aldridge for Kyrie? TWolves maybe Teague and Towns for Kyrie? What would you do, Im enjoying your insight and this convo my friend. Same, dude, and I sincerely apologize for being a dickhead in the past, I judged you too quickly. Well here's the thing with Melo and the Rockets -- Melo was actually crazy effective at the 4 for the Knicks when they went with small lineups. That became a big thing during the Woodson era when they had that one decent season. Melo at the 4 can create matchup problems and it's not a liability in this age of small ball. So yeah...the question then is: How much of the Rockets' future will they mortgage to get him? Now we're talking about draft picks in 2020, 2021 and beyond because IIRC they've already traded their 2019 first round pick. With Kyrie honestly I have no clue. If/when he's dealt money and cap space will be big impediments. I don't think Wolves part with Towns to get him...too young and promising of a player with too much upside to give up, even in the age of guards and SFs. But who knows? Spurs would never trade Leonard, not even for Lebron...doesn't make sense to trade a young MVP caliber player, atop 3 or top 5 guy, for a 33-year-old. Leonard is what, 26? We haven't seen his ceiling yet either. Unfortunately they don't have assets to return to Cleveland, even if they offered Aldridge. Heat would take Irving for Dragic + Chalmers in a second, Cavs wouldn't like that ROI though. They'd have to be desperate. I'm not sure how the money works out with those guys either. Although I really like the idea of Irving with Hassan Whiteside. And the Knicks...well, if Cleveland doesn't find a better offer, they have to make a move. Their whole franchise is geared toward "win now," and ownership is under pressure to surround James and Love with more talent. In that case Melo fits their timetable. That move might mollify Lebron in the short term. Melo would waive his no trade clause and the kicker for that deal. What a pain in the ass trade, though, with two stars who each have only a short list of teams they'd accept. Basically I think Cleveland will only consider any deal that will give them an immediate impact player in return. They don't care about the future. And maybe you'll have a different viewpoint on this, but I don't think the rift between Irving and Lebron can be healed at this point. Not with it all in the press now, and Lebron is a stubborn dude who holds grudges when he feels disrespected...so at this point, Irving has to go somewhere. |
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 24, 2017 17:24:37 GMT
No doubt, I agree with you again, BUT, put yourself in my shoes, a Houston fan. I know it's hard cuz youre a Knick guy....but hell with it, lets pretend the entire teams swapped. Meaning my Rockets, CP3/Harden/Gordon are now all Knicks, with the rest of our roster. Melo and company, all Rockets. Knicks say we will take Melo for Anderson. Come on you wouldnt take another talent? I mean....I think it's obvious who youd rather have, and if Knicks wanna be stupid and say,"Ok, Melo and Ryan Anderson (Maybe another scrub, like a 10-11th-12th bench guy for Melo) Man, ill take it. Melo has to know, youre basically Kevin Love. Lebron, Kyrie, than love. Houston would go Harden, CP3, Melo. I mean if the Knicks wanna be dumb dumbs and say Anderson for Melo, in my shoes, can you blame me going,"hell yea, come on down!" The thing that does worry bout my Rockets, we gave up some depth. Lou was a monster off the bench. While beverly is no CP3, the guy is a fn defensive little pest. He has heart, I love players that know, no Im not as talented as Harden or Westbrook or Lebron and bring everythin they got night after night. That's Patrick. Im js, we can ditch a scrub in Anderson for a semi star in Carmelo? Im being selfish, no doubt, can you blame me? BUT I get where youre coming from...but man get rid of Andersons contract and nab Melo...Ill try it. With that, a little OT fun. What do you think happens to Kyrie? He seems to wanna go to SAS/Heat/Knicks/TWolves. Which of these 4 could put a good package for him? (I dont see SAS giving up Leonard.) Maybe Kyrie for Melo? Kyrie for Dragic and Waiters? Aldridge for Kyrie? TWolves maybe Teague and Towns for Kyrie? What would you do, Im enjoying your insight and this convo my friend. Same, dude, and I sincerely apologize for being a dickhead in the past, I judged you too quickly. Well here's the thing with Melo and the Rockets -- Melo was actually crazy effective at the 4 for the Knicks when they went with small lineups. That became a big thing during the Woodson era when they had that one decent season. Melo at the 4 can create matchup problems and it's not a liability in this age of small ball. So yeah...the question then is: How much of the Rockets' future will they mortgage to get him? Now we're talking about draft picks in 2020, 2021 and beyond because IIRC they've already traded their 2019 first round pick. With Kyrie honestly I have no clue. If/when he's dealt money and cap space will be big impediments. I don't think Wolves part with Towns to get him...too young and promising of a player with too much upside to give up, even in the age of guards and SFs. But who knows? Spurs would never trade Leonard, not even for Lebron...doesn't make sense to trade a young MVP caliber player, atop 3 or top 5 guy, for a 33-year-old. Leonard is what, 26? We haven't seen his ceiling yet either. Unfortunately they don't have assets to return to Cleveland, even if they offered Aldridge. Heat would take Irving for Dragic + Chalmers in a second, Cavs wouldn't like that ROI though. They'd have to be desperate. I'm not sure how the money works out with those guys either. Although I really like the idea of Irving with Hassan Whiteside. And the Knicks...well, if Cleveland doesn't find a better offer, they have to make a move. Their whole franchise is geared toward "win now," and ownership is under pressure to surround James and Love with more talent. In that case Melo fits their timetable. That move might mollify Lebron in the short term. Melo would waive his no trade clause and the kicker for that deal. What a pain in the ass trade, though, with two stars who each have only a short list of teams they'd accept. Basically I think Cleveland will only consider any deal that will give them an immediate impact player in return. They don't care about the future. And maybe you'll have a different viewpoint on this, but I don't think the rift between Irving and Lebron can be healed at this point. Not with it all in the press now, and Lebron is a stubborn dude who holds grudges when he feels disrespected...so at this point, Irving has to go somewhere. First, all good my friend, I understand (Mostly the politic thing and I get it. It pains me to admit, some people on the left have lost their mfering minds. I try not to do that, TBH, I was sort of crushed when I saw my fellow leftists standing up for CNN after clearly using blackmail, but ok Im going OT) I agree, Leonard is untouchable. I dont see it, the only player I can see...maybe Alridge. (I feel he doesnt truly fit in with SAS). I agree as well, Aldridge alone wont be enough. SAS are so deep, and Greg isnt gonna wanna lose his bench. BUT is Parker coming back? They did just sign Gay. Maybe Alridge, P. Mills, Miler, Anthony and a pick? I mean, they got Leonard, lee, Gasol, Green, P. Gasol, Parker and others. IDK If theyd ever trade Parker or even if theyd want him (He is def at the end.) Parker could be a 6th man (and Manu too). Theyd need Gasol/Lee to step in for Aldridge but Kyrie and Leonard....nice. I mean, like you said if Kyrie is going, get something for him. Aldridge and Mills are good pieces, lets be real, I dont see how Cleveland is going to get pure = value for him. (OK, going let here with Melo/Rockets thing. I ___ it so if youre just into Kyrie, go to the next line.) ____________________ Now with Melo, again, if Knicks wanna be dumby dumbs and give us Melo for Anderson and maybe someone else (No Harden/CP3/Gordon) I mean, Anderson is over paid, you cant blame a guy right? Yea, that worries me too. 2019 pick, gone. Now do we wanna give up maybe Anderson and another depth bench player and maybe a 2020 pick? We are really mortgaging the future. I mean, I think we could have 2-3 years with those 3 (CP3/Harden/Melo) but we will def not have much depth. We will be what....6-7 guys? ATM it looks like our lineup is: PG = CP3 SG = Harden SF = Ariza PF = Ryan Anderson C = C. Capela Our best depth Gordon is def the 6th man Troy Williams (He had the most MPG last season) Nene was next After that, Im not sure. We gave up so much freaking depth to nab CP3. I mean if somehow we did a Melo for Anderson and maybe Troy or a little more of our depth, we got no choice but to put Melo at the 4. We will be so dang thin. :/ (Beverly/Lou are gone and both had a lot of MPG) ______________________________________ Ok sorry back to Kyrie. Now the Heat. Dragic and Chalmer for Kyrie....Dragic isnt a bad player. Is Dragic "Kyrie" No. Would Dragic/Chalmers be enough, theyd probably throw in Haslem as he has time with Lebron, but that wouldnt be much. IDK how Kyrie and Whiteside would work either. I dont think theyd give up Waiters. Dragic isnt a scrub, but again it goes back to, youre not getting = value for Kyrie, youre just not. Now TWolves. Yea, they arent ditching Towns, Wiggins or Butler. Teague def, Crawford? IDK what package they can put together. Now that leaves you guys, Knicks. I heard Rose wants to go to Cleveland. (WOW, big deal). Porzingas aint moving, I dont see you guys giving him up. Im looking at the Knicks depth chart: www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/ny/new-york-knicksNow dont get mad at me, IDK jack about Ron Baker.  Is he good?? Im so sorry. Maybe Melo and Baker for Kyrie. (It seems theyre-Cavs-are going for Rose too). With Melo....where do they slot him? Lebron is a SF. Love is a PF. Those are Melos 2 spots. Do they got bigger? Maybe Love center, Lebron PF and Melo SF (Or vice versa). Now that hurts Tristian. I dont think Melo can play SG, that's a problem right there. Where would he fit? That's a problem Im having with Melo. You go the Love/Lebron/Melo, Tristian becomes a 6th man? Also they need a PG and Rose wont cut it. SG theyre okay, Korver and JR. I also remember hearing/reading Kyrie has NO trade clause, so they could tell him to eat eggs, put him on the block and see who gives them the best offer. I agree, it has to be a star or semi star, a win now type package. Theyre not gonna trade for the "future" aka Boston style. Phew sorry, I can get into these "what if" where can he go type scenarios, maybe too much, lol. On a random note, let me bold the thing I agree 200 percent with this is a pain in the @$$. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 21:27:18 GMT
I don't get Carmelo. Him and Jackson butted heads. Wouldn't waive that no trade clause correct - and things were ugly. Apparently he 'loved' New York. Now Jackson is gone. What's the problem? Carmelo reminds me of that guy who complained about his wife/girlfriend - but wouldn't leave for years. Then she left him for greener fields. Now he's left with egg on his face and - he's like - I was going to leave anyway! Who wants me?!?  |
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 25, 2017 6:21:02 GMT
shadyvsesham I love the idea of Kyrie and Kawhi, I just don't know how the money would work out if the Spurs went after him. The Aldridge contract would be almost 1:1 with Kyrie per year, but Aldridge has 2 years, $44m, while Kyrie has 3 years/$60m. The Spurs have almost no cap space to take on additional contracts, so the Cavs would have to bite the bullet and take a lot less value for Kyrie because they can't even get SA to take a bad contract (maybe JR Smith for example) to smooth out the deal. I have to admit though, figuring out the money side isn't my thing. From a basketball perspective though? The Spurs would love to have a superstar PG in his prime because it's not just that Parker has a long rehab ahead of him, but he's already been on a long decline. That's why I thought Chris Paul would've been a great match, but they didn't have the cap space to make it happen or the assets to offer the Clippers. Either way, Parker can extend his career a few more years off the bench and then retire to a cushy assistant coach or front office job in San Antonio. On the Cleveland side, they've got Tristan Thompson signed for 3 more years at an average of almost $18m a season, and they've got K Love, so even without the money issues they're gonna need a third team. If I was Cleveland I wouldn't be happy with aldridge as the Kyrie return. With Melo, they can play him, Love and Lebron in a small ball lineup, which is what they used throughout playoffs anyway. It'll be a downgrade on the defensive end because even though Kyrie is not a good defender by any measure, at least he tries and he has intensity especially in the postseason. Melo has never been accused of being a good defender or a hustle player. @screamingtreefrogs It's the ongoing Melodrama! Just like his departure from Denver, this one is long, drawn out and ridiculous. He's one of those dudes who's hung up on "respect," mistakenly believing he's due any. For what? Showing up and putting in the bare minimum effort on only one end of the court? For leading the Knicks nowhere? For refusing to learn or grow and being the same player he was 10 years ago? So I think that, in Carmelo's mind, this is an irreparable rift. He's been disrespected, so he thinks he has to leave. Plus he really wants to join a super team and have better players carry him through some postseason success.
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