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Post by captainbryce on Jul 25, 2017 18:49:44 GMT
Is suicide an acceptable method of dealing with depression?
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Post by Vegas on Jul 25, 2017 18:52:22 GMT
Wouldn't it depend on the situation of the individual? Technically, to one extreme..... Somebody throwing themselves on a grenade, to save others, is suicide.
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Post by gadreel on Jul 25, 2017 18:53:25 GMT
Is suicide an acceptable method of dealing with depression? I think that question is unanswerable. You are asking a generalisation on something that is so personal no generalisation can be made. Your first question, is suicide selfish, yes. Is it okay, yes. Your second question is easier, suicide is a sub par method of dealing with depression, but having said that there are a small minority of depressed people that will never get better, for them suicide eases the pain. Personally I am not convinced I agree with suicide, although I have had suicidal ideation both historically and in my current situation, so I can understand the rationale.
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Post by general313 on Jul 25, 2017 19:01:47 GMT
The poll questions aren't even comprehensive nor mutually exclusive (ie. one is not the inverse of the other).
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Post by islandmur on Jul 25, 2017 19:05:34 GMT
Idiot.
No one said suicide was acceptable, it is however understandable which is a difference you seem unable to grasp.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Jul 25, 2017 19:27:53 GMT
Is suicide an acceptable method of dealing with depression? Would you support someone being able to commit suicide if they had a terminal and unbearably painful disease?
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Post by progressiveelement on Jul 25, 2017 19:37:01 GMT
If it meant saving others?
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Post by phludowin on Jul 25, 2017 19:38:46 GMT
Are polls with only two answer options stupid?
Yes.
The other possible answers? "No" and "It depends".
But apparently the OP is one of those narrow minded people who tend to see things only in black or white.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 25, 2017 20:09:28 GMT
It may not be selfish although it is almost always stupid &/or irrational.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 25, 2017 20:14:03 GMT
I think so, depends on the situation though. If it's someone that's already pretty much dying and suicide would end their suffering, I don't think it's selfish in that situation.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 25, 2017 23:34:59 GMT
Wouldn't it depend on the situation of the individual? Technically, to one extreme..... Somebody throwing themselves on a grenade, to save others, is suicide. No, that would be "sacrifice". Sacrificing oneself to save the lives of others would generally not be considered in the same light as what we typically call suicide. Most suicides involved a person taking their own lives in a senseless way, for no purpose other than as a means to end their own suffering.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 25, 2017 23:39:13 GMT
Idiot. No one said suicide was acceptable, it is however understandable which is a difference you seem unable to grasp. If you cannot reply to a question without throwing out insults, then you're better off not replying at all. You have contributed nothing of substance to the discussion. I suspect based on our last conversation that there are many things that you are unable to grasp, but that conversation has run it's course on a different thread. For the record, someone DID in fact say that suicide was acceptable, which is what inspired this question. If you are unaware of what has actually been said on other threads, you should keep up!
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 25, 2017 23:40:49 GMT
Is suicide an acceptable method of dealing with depression? Would you support someone being able to commit suicide if they had a terminal and unbearably painful disease?
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 25, 2017 23:41:48 GMT
If it meant saving others? Sacrifice doesn't count. Hell, even the description and depiction of Jesus's death isn't considered a suicide by most rational thinkers (theist and atheist alike).
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 25, 2017 23:43:30 GMT
It may not be selfish although it is almost always stupid &/or irrational. That much is certain!
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 25, 2017 23:43:54 GMT
I think so, depends on the situation though. If it's someone that's already pretty much dying and suicide would end their suffering, I don't think it's selfish in that situation. Fair enough.
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Post by Moviefan on Jul 25, 2017 23:48:25 GMT
I don't believe suicide is selfish but I also don't consider it acceptable.
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Post by gadreel on Jul 25, 2017 23:51:04 GMT
It may not be selfish although it is almost always stupid &/or irrational. That much is certain! No it is not, that much is an opinion. Someone who has been diagnosed with Alzheimers may want to end their life as opposed to suffer the degradation of their mental faculties.
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Post by general313 on Jul 26, 2017 0:04:06 GMT
Why should it matter whether the motives are selfish or not? This distinction isn't brought up when the topic is slavery or women's suffrage. A person should be free to choose their own fate and not be challenged because others think that person is deficient in selflessness.
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Post by bonerxmas on Jul 26, 2017 0:10:12 GMT
the great cultures, rome, japan, demanded suicide if you disgraced yourself
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