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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 29, 2017 20:38:26 GMT
I think there would have still been the MCU and Avengers without Superman: The Movie. It just wouldn't be the same as it is now. Because most all comic book movies took cues from Superman: The Movie. My reasoning for this is Star Wars. It came out before Superman: The Movie and was really big for pop culture. If you wiped out Superman: The Movie from existence, Star Wars would be that reference. Hell, I would even say that CBMs took more cues from Star Wars than they did from Superman: The Movie. The only thing that they took from Superman is the structure of the movie (origin for the 1st half to going up against the villain for the 2nd). But them using The Hero's Journey is pretty much taken from Star Wars. Look at the characters in Avengers (and even X-men) and how they match up to Star Wars. You're missing the most important point. I think Superman: The Movie was the most expensive movie ever made at that time. Without the success of Superman: The Movie, movie studios wouldn't be producing big-budget superhero movies like today. The success of Superman: The Movie is what led to the big-budget superhero movies today. It's the same with the success Wonder Woman. It had been over a decade since the last female-led superhero movie. If Wonder Woman hadn't been successful, there wouldn't be another female-led superhero movie for a long time. The success of Wonder Woman not only opens the door for more female-led superhero movies but also opens the door for more female Directors to be given the opportunity to direct big-budget franchise movies. Jaws. That movie started the summer blockbuster. Superman being the most expensive means nothing. Actually, there would have been a female-led superhero movie. The problem was Ike Perlmutter. He didn't want a female-led anything. He works for Trump and isn't in charge of Marvel. Without him there would have been a Captain Marvel, and possibly Black Widow, movie by now.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 29, 2017 23:03:00 GMT
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 30, 2017 0:33:12 GMT
You haven't seen VEEP then. Sad. Of course I've seen Veep, I doubt that, and plenty of people know him just as much for VEEP as Arrested. Of course I take the comparison to a Personal Aide to an important Politician quite well, so thank you.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 30, 2017 0:39:48 GMT
Of course I've seen Veep, I doubt that, and plenty of people know him just as much for VEEP as Arrested. Of course I take the comparison to a Personal Aide to an important Politician quite well, so thank you. Nah, you're a worthless loser and nobody knows him from Veep.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 30, 2017 12:50:10 GMT
I doubt that, and plenty of people know him just as much for VEEP as Arrested. Of course I take the comparison to a Personal Aide to an important Politician quite well, so thank you. Nah, you're a worthless loser and nobody knows him from Veep. It's not my fault you didn't know him from VEEP and walked into such an easy trap.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 30, 2017 13:16:17 GMT
Nah, you're a worthless loser and nobody knows him from Veep. It's not my fault you didn't know him from VEEP and walked into such an easy trap. It's not my fault you didn't know him from Arrested and tried to make excuses.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 31, 2017 1:34:31 GMT
It's not my fault you didn't know him from VEEP and walked into such an easy trap. It's not my fault you didn't know him from Arrested and tried to make excuses. Actually, it IS your fault for not doing your proper research on Tony Hale's career.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 31, 2017 2:04:47 GMT
It's not my fault you didn't know him from Arrested and tried to make excuses. Actually, it IS your fault for not doing your proper research on Tony Hale's career. This from the person who can't cite a single source to back up anything he's ever claimed.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 31, 2017 18:33:37 GMT
Actually, it IS your fault for not doing your proper research on Tony Hale's career. This from the person who can't cite a single source to back up anything he's ever claimed. The artificial boosters? They exist, DC fans just can't own up and admit it.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 31, 2017 19:55:52 GMT
This from the person who can't cite a single source to back up anything he's ever claimed. The artificial boosters? They exist, DC fans just can't own up and admit it. So, prove it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 1, 2017 20:39:18 GMT
The artificial boosters? They exist, DC fans just can't own up and admit it. So, prove it. I did, DC fans just can't own up.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 1, 2017 23:15:13 GMT
I did, DC fans just can't own up. You cited an article with a single Warner exec saying as much? Or anyone besides your idiotic self, for that matter?
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 2, 2017 0:38:43 GMT
I did, DC fans just can't own up. You cited an article with a single Warner exec saying as much? They aren't going to ADMIT it openly that WW needed artificial boosts to get a reception. But it's fairly obvious.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 2, 2017 5:02:03 GMT
You cited an article with a single Warner exec saying as much? They aren't going to ADMIT it openly that WW needed artificial boosts to get a reception. But it's fairly obvious. I accept your surrender.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 2, 2017 16:23:50 GMT
They aren't going to ADMIT it openly that WW needed artificial boosts to get a reception. But it's fairly obvious. I accept your surrender. You accept how obviously WW had artificial boosters to make it look better, good.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 3, 2017 0:27:11 GMT
You accept how obviously WW had artificial boosters to make it look better, good. Nah, I accept that you can't prove it but refuse to behave like an adult and concede the point.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 3, 2017 12:39:37 GMT
You accept how obviously WW had artificial boosters to make it look better, good. Nah, I accept that you can't prove it but refuse to behave like an adult and concede the point. I don't have to prove it, it's fairly obvious. 2+2, after all.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 3, 2017 13:54:12 GMT
Nah, I accept that you can't prove it but refuse to behave like an adult and concede the point. I don't have to prove it, it's fairly obvious. 2+2, after all. So you're just a gasbag child who can't back up anything he says, got it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 3, 2017 21:59:06 GMT
I don't have to prove it, it's fairly obvious. 2+2, after all. So you're just a gasbag child who can't back up anything he says, got it. Once again, you're ignoring the obvious boosters in WW that artificially augmented it.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 4, 2017 1:46:09 GMT
So you're just a gasbag child who can't back up anything he says, got it. Once again, you're ignoring the obvious boosters in WW that artificially augmented it. Nah, I'm saying the film succeeded on its own merit and you've done nothing to prove otherwise.
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