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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 2:08:17 GMT
You're violently opposed to free speech, just like Youtube. It doesn't matter where you wrote down your list of banned words. You're also naive to take for granted that giant corporations are going to protect the oppressed from the oppressors. How does that even work? How am I opposed to free speech you clown, try reading what I wrote, let me re-say it for the slow of thinking (you and erjen) I do not think she should have been censored, I believe (short of inciting violence) people can say what they want, but they must accept the consequences of that speech, in this instance youtube has terms and conditions that were broken by the poster and so her video was removed. would you care to comment on my actual stance? Your actual stance seems to be that it isn't a suppression of free speech as long as the government isn't the nominal suppressor.
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Post by gadreel on Jul 31, 2017 2:19:53 GMT
How am I opposed to free speech you clown, try reading what I wrote, let me re-say it for the slow of thinking (you and erjen) I do not think she should have been censored, I believe (short of inciting violence) people can say what they want, but they must accept the consequences of that speech, in this instance youtube has terms and conditions that were broken by the poster and so her video was removed. would you care to comment on my actual stance? Your actual stance seems to be that it isn't a suppression of free speech as long as the government isn't the nominal suppressor. Like I say, you should re-read, I am not in favour of any sort of censorship, but if a person has agreed to T&C of where they are posting, they are subject to those T&C. Please use your own words to explain how you got what you got out of what I said.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 2:25:07 GMT
Your actual stance seems to be that it isn't a suppression of free speech as long as the government isn't the nominal suppressor. Like I say, you should re-read, I am not in favour of any sort of censorship, but if a person has agreed to T&C of where they are posting, they are subject to those T&C. Please use your own words to explain how you got what you got out of what I said. She never used the N-word. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/6h2ujupw9/nope.gif)
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Post by gadreel on Jul 31, 2017 2:27:13 GMT
Like I say, you should re-read, I am not in favour of any sort of censorship, but if a person has agreed to T&C of where they are posting, they are subject to those T&C. Please use your own words to explain how you got what you got out of what I said. She never used the N-word. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/6h2ujupw9/nope.gif) Something I addressed in my second post. She posted a video with that word in it, she therefore holds culpability to youtube as she is the one that broke the T&C. Honestly, thinking she has been hard done by is clutching at straws.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 2:35:38 GMT
She never used the N-word. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/6h2ujupw9/nope.gif) Something I addressed in my second post. She posted a video with that word in it, she therefore holds culpability to youtube as she is the one that broke the T&C. Honestly, thinking she has been hard done by is clutching at straws. So says you and your blaspheming sodomite friends.
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Post by gadreel on Jul 31, 2017 2:39:35 GMT
Something I addressed in my second post. She posted a video with that word in it, she therefore holds culpability to youtube as she is the one that broke the T&C. Honestly, thinking she has been hard done by is clutching at straws. So says you and your blaspheming sodomite friends. And we get to the point in every argument you ever engage in when you have run out of spurious arguments and mis-representing people and you are forced to throw out insults and vitriol in lieu of thinking. Once again Erjen you have proven what an idiot you are. You and Maya are well suited to each other.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 2:52:17 GMT
So says you and your blaspheming sodomite friends. And we get to the point in every argument you ever engage in when you have run out of spurious arguments and mis-representing people and you are forced to throw out insults and vitriol in lieu of thinking. Once again Erjen you have proven what an idiot you are. You and Maya are well suited to each other. Thank you. I agree that Maya and I are well-suited to each other. Sometimes I wish Blade were still here to take care of my light work. That would be you, sir.
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Post by vernuf on Jul 31, 2017 5:17:02 GMT
The guy who says people disagreeing with him are trying to control his thoughts and dehumanizes them by calling them vermin is in no position to call anyone a coward.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 6:39:57 GMT
The guy who says people disagreeing with him are trying to control his thoughts and dehumanizes them by calling them vermin is in no position to call anyone a coward. I don't care if you disagree with me. No problem. When you try to rewrite the language and limit free speech, now we got a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 8:05:24 GMT
I think that most forums should aim to allow the broadest possible range of speech that they are able to without falling foul of the territories in which they are operating; although failure to allow this on their own private platform isn't really tantamount to suppression of free speech (although in effect, it can add up to essentially the same thing if all the major advertisers pull their advertising in protest at the content).
Having said that, I could have sworn that I have seen you advocating for strict restrictions upon what would be acceptable discourse on this forum with respect to religion, so if you are now positioning yourself as a champion of free expression, this would signal a marked departure from what your attitude was back in February when this forum was first formed.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 8:12:05 GMT
I think that most forums should aim to allow the broadest possible range of speech that they are able to without falling foul of the territories in which they are operating; although failure to allow this on their own private platform isn't really tantamount to suppression of free speech (although in effect, it can add up to essentially the same thing if all the major advertisers pull their advertising in protest at the content). Having said that, I could have sworn that I have seen you advocating for strict restrictions upon what would be acceptable discourse on this forum with respect to religion, so if you are now positioning yourself as a champion of free expression, this would signal a marked departure from what your attitude was back in February when this forum was first formed. I have been an outspoken opponent of harassment and cyberstalking. If that translates in your mind as an opponent of discourse, then you are indeed pitiful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 9:11:03 GMT
I think that most forums should aim to allow the broadest possible range of speech that they are able to without falling foul of the territories in which they are operating; although failure to allow this on their own private platform isn't really tantamount to suppression of free speech (although in effect, it can add up to essentially the same thing if all the major advertisers pull their advertising in protest at the content). Having said that, I could have sworn that I have seen you advocating for strict restrictions upon what would be acceptable discourse on this forum with respect to religion, so if you are now positioning yourself as a champion of free expression, this would signal a marked departure from what your attitude was back in February when this forum was first formed. I have been an outspoken opponent of harassment and cyberstalking. If that translates in your mind as an opponent of discourse, then you are indeed pitiful. It's not only been that; you've stated on numerous occasions that someone's religious beliefs simply shouldn't be up for debate, let alone ridicule. And that you were worried about this board becoming too atheistic and that the admin should do something to prevent that from occurring.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 9:17:16 GMT
I have been an outspoken opponent of harassment and cyberstalking. If that translates in your mind as an opponent of discourse, then you are indeed pitiful. It's not only been that; you've stated on numerous occasions that someone's religious beliefs simply shouldn't be up for debate, let alone ridicule. And that you were worried about this board becoming too atheistic and that the admin should do something to prevent that from occurring. At least you got some of that right. In my opinion no one's religious beliefs should be up for ridicule on this forum.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 31, 2017 11:23:11 GMT
So says you and your blaspheming sodomite friends. And we get to the point in every argument you ever engage in when you have run out of spurious arguments and mis-representing people and you are forced to throw out insults and vitriol in lieu of thinking. Once again Erjen you have proven what an idiot you are. You and Maya are well suited to each other. Haha, you seriously expected this conversation to go any differently than any other involving erjen? He can't win, realizes he can't win, so must resort to the type of insults he would personally find offensive (but are really just laughable). "Sodomite" ![](https://s26.postimg.org/tek3suwt5/laugh.gif)
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 31, 2017 11:25:27 GMT
It's not only been that; you've stated on numerous occasions that someone's religious beliefs simply shouldn't be up for debate, let alone ridicule. And that you were worried about this board becoming too atheistic and that the admin should do something to prevent that from occurring. At least you got some of that right. In my opinion no one's religious beliefs should be up for ridicule on this forum. So then you are a complete hypocrite who stands against "free speech" (or at least what you think free speech means), and ultimately defeating your own argument.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 11:28:28 GMT
At least you got some of that right. In my opinion no one's religious beliefs should be up for ridicule on this forum. So then you are a complete hypocrite who stands against "free speech" (or at least what you think free speech means), and ultimately defeating your own argument. Faggots deserve to burn in hell. Put that in your free speech pipe and smoke it.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 31, 2017 13:31:26 GMT
So then you are a complete hypocrite who stands against "free speech" (or at least what you think free speech means), and ultimately defeating your own argument. Faggots deserve to burn in hell. Put that in your free speech pipe and smoke it. Homophobic meltdown reported. Admins, please admonish member for violating rules of the forum. Thank you.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 31, 2017 13:38:03 GMT
Faggots deserve to burn in hell. Put that in your free speech pipe and smoke it. Homophobic meltdown reported. Admins, please admonish member for violating rules of the forum. Thank you.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 31, 2017 15:43:03 GMT
Circular argument is circular, she is entitled to free speech, but she must not contravene the rules of the platform she is speaking on. Didn't the likes of Mark Twain and William Faulkner use that word in their stories? Do you agree that their books should be banned from public libraries? ![](https://s26.postimg.org/tek3suwt5/laugh.gif) From the modern day Youtube TOS to century old novels that realistically depict the language of their time. Amazing.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 31, 2017 15:44:33 GMT
Homophobic meltdown reported. Admins, please admonish member for violating rules of the forum. Thank you. Dude you're seriously confused as to what free speech rights as defined in the US entail.
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