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Post by gadreel on Jul 31, 2017 18:17:02 GMT
Dude you're seriously confused as to what free speech rights as defined in the US entail. I am beginning to think that he is actually quite stupid, not the funny haha stupid we give him stick for, but the actually not understanding what words mean and incapable of following a conversation type of stupid. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 31, 2017 18:25:55 GMT
Dude you're seriously confused as to what free speech rights as defined in the US entail. I am beginning to think that he is actually quite stupid, not the funny haha stupid we give him stick for, but the actually not understanding what words mean and incapable of following a conversation type of stupid. It's hard to tell (not the "stupid" thing but whether he actually knows how FS rights apply) - so much time spent crying "Why don't you arrest me then?!" and "Thought crimes, eh?" in the face of simple things like forum debates shows a real desire for some perceived oppression. This could just be more of that "drum it up if it ain't coming" stuff. |
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Post by gadreel on Jul 31, 2017 18:31:45 GMT
I am beginning to think that he is actually quite stupid, not the funny haha stupid we give him stick for, but the actually not understanding what words mean and incapable of following a conversation type of stupid. It's hard to tell (not the "stupid" thing but whether he actually knows how FS rights apply) - so much time spent crying "Why don't you arrest me then?!" and "Thought crimes, eh?" in the face of simple things like forum debates shows a real desire for some perceived oppression. This could just be more of that "drum it up if it ain't coming" stuff. Oh honestly don't get me wrong, the video he posted was a whiny complainer who was not able to face up to what they did, but because she is one of Erjen's idols, it is not possible that she did anything wrong, she must have been chosen as a martyr to advance the leftist agenda to world destruction. At the end of the day Erjen's MO is look at the right wing tool and be in awe, if you disagree at all I can put up the semblance of a conversation about it, but after a while I will realise I have no clue and call you a sodomite. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 31, 2017 18:32:47 GMT
^ Sodomite.
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Post by Marv on Jul 31, 2017 19:00:50 GMT
YouTube does not support all encompassing free speech. There are plenty of things that videos and content can get flagged for. Basically they want you to make entertaining vids but don't want you to piss off their sponsors. YouTube is a business just like any other, with rules and guidelines. It isn't an infringement on anyone's first amendment if they decide to take down the videos anyone puts on their site.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 19:56:23 GMT
It's not only been that; you've stated on numerous occasions that someone's religious beliefs simply shouldn't be up for debate, let alone ridicule. And that you were worried about this board becoming too atheistic and that the admin should do something to prevent that from occurring. At least you got some of that right. In my opinion no one's religious beliefs should be up for ridicule on this forum. So why were you criticising websites run by private companies for having restrictions on free expression in their terms and conditions, if you believe that the rules on this private website should severely curtail freedom of expression with respect to religious beliefs? And what would even be the point of a 'Religion, Faith and Spirituality' forum if it were just a case of everybody complimenting each other on their illogical belief systems? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 20:00:08 GMT
So then you are a complete hypocrite who stands against "free speech" (or at least what you think free speech means), and ultimately defeating your own argument. Faggots deserve to burn in hell. Put that in your free speech pipe and smoke it. It's always so amusing when you lose an argument.  |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 1, 2017 7:08:28 GMT
At least you got some of that right. In my opinion no one's religious beliefs should be up for ridicule on this forum. So why were you criticising websites run by private companies for having restrictions on free expression in their terms and conditions, if you believe that the rules on this private website should severely curtail freedom of expression with respect to religious beliefs? And what would even be the point of a 'Religion, Faith and Spirituality' forum if it were just a case of everybody complimenting each other on their illogical belief systems? I didn't say it should be curtailed. I said in my opinion religious beliefs should not be ridiculed. Don't you see the difference? I'll try to make it simple for you. I think that you and your kind should, all on your own and without any urging, have the basic decency to not ridicule someone's religion. Would that be too much to expect? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 1, 2017 7:18:29 GMT
YouTube does not support all encompassing free speech. There are plenty of things that videos and content can get flagged for. Basically they want you to make entertaining vids but don't want you to piss off their sponsors. YouTube is a business just like any other, with rules and guidelines. It isn't an infringement on anyone's first amendment if they decide to take down the videos anyone puts on their site. That's all understandable, Marv, and I'm sorry I didn't have time to reply when you posted earlier. What is not considered acceptable speech is decided arbitrarily and when it happens it is automatically labeled as "hate speech." Cinemachinery used the word "faggot" on this board once. Never mind the context. He still used it. Eddy Hopper used the N-word on the Politics board and I'm sure he got away with it because he was doing a racist impersonation of someone who criticizes Obama. Personally, if we're going to outlaw certain words, I think "homophobe" and "anti-Semite" should be outlawed along with the rest. Neither word is technically accurate and both are used by the globalists in an attempt to vilify those who speak out against them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 7:40:06 GMT
So why were you criticising websites run by private companies for having restrictions on free expression in their terms and conditions, if you believe that the rules on this private website should severely curtail freedom of expression with respect to religious beliefs? And what would even be the point of a 'Religion, Faith and Spirituality' forum if it were just a case of everybody complimenting each other on their illogical belief systems? I didn't say it should be curtailed. I said in my opinion religious beliefs should not be ridiculed. Don't you see the difference? I'll try to make it simple for you. I think that you and your kind should, all on your own and without any urging, have the basic decency to not ridicule someone's religion. Would that be too much to expect? It would reasonable if we ever got to the point where you and your kind, all on your own and without any urging, have the basic decency not to try and force your religion into people's lives via the political system. And in any case, I do seem to remember that you did want the admin to take charge of deleting posts that are offensive to religion, rather than just wanting people such as myself to "have the basic decency...". |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 1, 2017 7:53:31 GMT
I didn't say it should be curtailed. I said in my opinion religious beliefs should not be ridiculed. Don't you see the difference? I'll try to make it simple for you. I think that you and your kind should, all on your own and without any urging, have the basic decency to not ridicule someone's religion. Would that be too much to expect? It would reasonable if we ever got to the point where you and your kind, all on your own and without any urging, have the basic decency not to try and force your religion into people's lives via the political system. And in any case, I do seem to remember that you did want the admin to take charge of deleting posts that are offensive to religion, rather than just wanting people such as myself to "have the basic decency...". How am I and my kind doing this awful thing? And if you can find where I said I wanted the admin to delete posts, show me, because I don't seem to remember it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 8:06:39 GMT
It would reasonable if we ever got to the point where you and your kind, all on your own and without any urging, have the basic decency not to try and force your religion into people's lives via the political system. And in any case, I do seem to remember that you did want the admin to take charge of deleting posts that are offensive to religion, rather than just wanting people such as myself to "have the basic decency...". How am I and my kind doing this awful thing? And if you can find where I said I wanted the admin to delete posts, show me, because I don't seem to remember it. I don't know if you are, but Christians on the whole continue to try and push their religion into the law. Suppressing laws such as the right to die, abortion, etc. If that weren't the case, I'd probably be less single-minded about ridiculing religion; although I'd still find it funny. I don't know if I can be bothered to locate the post (and some of them were on the old IMDb board), but I do remember you stating that the admin ought to be proactive in weeding out content which ridicules personal belief. I'm in no doubt that you expressed the sentiment that you did wish to see censorship on the forum. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 1, 2017 8:10:12 GMT
How am I and my kind doing this awful thing? And if you can find where I said I wanted the admin to delete posts, show me, because I don't seem to remember it. I don't know if you are, but Christians on the whole continue to try and push their religion into the law. Suppressing laws such as the right to die, abortion, etc. If that weren't the case, I'd probably be less single-minded about ridiculing religion; although I'd still find it funny. I don't know if I can be bothered to locate the post (and some of them were on the old IMDb board), but I do remember you stating that the admin ought to be proactive in weeding out content which ridicules personal belief. I'm in no doubt that you expressed the sentiment that you did wish to see censorship on the forum. Well, when you find it let me know. |
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Post by Marv on Aug 1, 2017 10:34:07 GMT
YouTube does not support all encompassing free speech. There are plenty of things that videos and content can get flagged for. Basically they want you to make entertaining vids but don't want you to piss off their sponsors. YouTube is a business just like any other, with rules and guidelines. It isn't an infringement on anyone's first amendment if they decide to take down the videos anyone puts on their site. That's all understandable, Marv, and I'm sorry I didn't have time to reply when you posted earlier. What is not considered acceptable speech is decided arbitrarily and when it happens it is automatically labeled as "hate speech." Cinemachinery used the word "faggot" on this board once. Never mind the context. He still used it. Eddy Hopper used the N-word on the Politics board and I'm sure he got away with it because he was doing a racist impersonation of someone who criticizes Obama. Personally, if we're going to outlaw certain words, I think "homophobe" and "anti-Semite" should be outlawed along with the rest. Neither word is technically accurate and both are used by the globalists in an attempt to vilify those who speak out against them. Personally, I always try to mind the context. But YouTube and any other media platform may not, and that's perfectly within their right. The same way that the KKK can't burn a cross in your living room or BLM hold a rally in your backyard. Their property their rules. YouTube creators are essentially renting space. There are no universally outlawed words. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 1, 2017 16:04:09 GMT
Wouldn't have moaned if they scrubbed it, either.  It's not a public space. But whatever the case, "never mind the context" rarely underlines a very good point. I mean "He said it... never mind he was quoting me!"? Really? Come on.  |
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Post by drystyx on Aug 1, 2017 21:46:56 GMT
Free speech is overrated.
Particularly in the U.S.A., where truth means nothing to an entire generation who worship the internet as their truth, when it simply is a place for demonic free speech to get the most play. Why? We're all demon possessed. Some of us are just not deluded about it.
For example, six people are hired in to open business at an office. In the U.S., for the "Xenophobe Generation", this means singling one to abuse and falsely accuse of anything that goes wrong, and often just making up lies. One can expect at least 3 in the office to agree on this, and lie, cheat, and destroy. It's pure Satanism.
Three people can agree to testify on anything. When all three agree every word for word recital against another, that's proof enough that they're lying to an experienced person. However, "free speech" means they can slander and abuse and target anyone they believe they can get away with it on.
If most people weren't atheists at heart, free speech would be more promising.
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 2, 2017 13:52:50 GMT
Personally, if we're going to outlaw certain words, I think "homophobe" and "anti-Semite" should be outlawed along with the rest. Neither word is technically accurate and both are used by the globalists in an attempt to vilify those who speak out against them. And butterflies still aren't made of butter, damn it all to hell.
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