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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 13:47:45 GMT
MMA fans will it happen.
And do you care?
Me? I love Brock - but truth be told, I don't know squat about Jones other than he's been in trouble - and has been regarded as one of the best.
Been around for years and I can't recall one interesting storyline other than him getting in trouble.
Does he have a personality? It's why the McGregor/Money fight intrigues me a bit - they both can 'talk' and put up the 'theatrics'.
This is what boxing and MMA is missing to me - the personalities. I loved me some Hector Camacho, Jorge Paez, Vinny Pazienza, Prince Hamed, etc.
MMA - gimme Chael Sonnen running his mouth.
I want to be 'entertained'.
MMA fans - prove me wrong - gimme a clip or show me where Jones is that 'entertaining guy'.
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Post by granny on Aug 1, 2017 0:07:18 GMT
No
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 1:04:49 GMT
me neither. i couldn't pick john jones out from a police lineup with 3 mexicans, 2 whites and an oriental. he does nothing for me |
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Post by granny on Aug 1, 2017 14:23:48 GMT
Nah
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Post by xystophoros on Aug 1, 2017 21:31:47 GMT
Not only is it crazy, but Lesnar doesn't deserve the fight. His biggest victories came against a 45-year-old Randy Couture, Heath Herring on the verge of retirement, a Korean can with a 3-7 lifetime record, and Shane Carwin. Carwin actually flash KO'd Lesnar in the first round of that fight, but somehow Lesnar was allowed to continue.
Then Lesnar got abused by Cain Velasquez and lost via first-round KO. And finally, Alistair Overeem knocked him into retirement only 2:26 into the first round.
Lesnar's big comeback was a "win" against a 42-year-old Mark Hunt -- a win that was changed to a No Contest after Lesnar was popped for 'roids.
So why does this asshole with a tattoo of a cock on his chest deserve to fight one of the best in the world?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 21:35:00 GMT
Not only is it crazy, but Lesnar doesn't deserve the fight. His biggest victories came against a 45-year-old Randy Couture, Heath Herring on the verge of retirement, a Korean can with a 3-7 lifetime record, and Shane Carwin. Carwin actually flash KO'd Lesnar in the first round of that fight, but somehow Lesnar was allowed to continue. Then Lesnar got abused by Cain Velasquez and lost via first-round KO. And finally, Alistair Overeem knocked him into retirement only 2:26 into the first round. Lesnar's big comeback was a "win" against a 42-year-old Mark Hunt -- a win that was changed to a No Contest after Lesnar was popped for 'roids. So why does this asshole with a tattoo of a cock on his chest deserve to fight one of the best in the world? i agree. that being said he's a 'name' with name recognition and i'm willing to bet more people know of him more than jon jones - which is kind of my point - UFC has done a horrible job promoting this guy - and Jones has done a horrible job self promoting himself ala McGregor, Chael Sonnen, etc. MMA needs some personalities to hook the 'casual viewer'. this guy is apparently at the top of the UFC - but seems rather 'vanilla' other than his personal troubles if you call that intriguing and news worthy. |
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Post by xystophoros on Aug 1, 2017 22:16:40 GMT
His personal and drug problems may be one reason why UFC hasn't marketed him as aggressively as they have others. But you're right, he's not the kind of magnetic personality that transcends the sport itself.
I think UFC has to be careful here. I get the appeal of these circus matches, at least to casual fans, but regular MMA fans don't get hyped by fights like this, and if they embrace the circus fight thing, they undercut their own credibility as a sport.
It would be like the NBA stepping in and taking a conference finals away from a team like the Spurs because they don't have outsize personalities, and then sliding OKC in there because they think fans want to see Westbrook and Paul George.
The UFC has already had complaints about fast-tracking guys based on personality and appeal while disregarding legit title contenders. They need to minimize that or risk being seen as a slightly more real version of the WWE.
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