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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 10:11:35 GMT
I do believe that may be the only truthful thing I've ever seen you say. Look up the word sarcasm sometime. Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster can help you. Oh, I know you weren't trying to be truthful. You're not really capable of that. But you managed it anyway. Well done you, I guess. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 2, 2017 10:15:27 GMT
PC/SJWs are anything but "not hostile to outsiders" I think that's his point, man. Cults want adherents. If anything, the far left is mired in am "ideological purity" litmus test of sorts. Not to say I think that's a positive... It seemed sarcastic to me. |
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 2, 2017 10:39:29 GMT
All kidding aside, I don't get it, either... I know two otherwise intelligent people that are Trump supporters because of his business background. Really? Declaring bankruptcy - failing - is a good business move? It seems so obvious that this jerk is just lining his pockets, how can anyone interpret anything else? To be fair, most successful businessmen, at least those that go into business for themselves, fail at some point, my experience with the entrepreneurs that I know is two or three business failures before they end up with something that sticks. Trump had something that stuck (he inherited a successful business from his father) and lost it all due to bad decisions. He didn't even bounce back himself, he was bailed out by the government. |
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 2, 2017 10:53:06 GMT
Did you see JK Rowling moaning on Twitter about Trump ignoring that disabled kid, when he did no such thing? She was corrected multiple times and refused to retract or apologise. She has been slated in the British press and even after that she still hasn't aopologised or admitted error. I think JKR should stay out of politics full stop to be honest. She partly financed the disastrous Saving Labour campaign. |
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 2, 2017 13:47:32 GMT
Donald Trump is the most polarising figure in politics I can remember. And the thing is the both sides are mired in fantasy. Did you see JK Rowling moaning on Twitter about Trump ignoring that disabled kid, when he did no such thing? She was corrected multiple times and refused to retract or apologise. She has been slated in the British press and even after that she still hasn't aopologised or admitted error. For the Never Trumpers, nothing the guy does will ever be good enough, or even good. He could perform CPR on a dying puppy and saves its life and some people will still slag him off. You seen his twitter? Blue check after Blue Check slagging him off, regardless of the tweets contents. Honoring Veterans, offering condolences to the UK after Manchester. They are they calling the guy. Similarly, I think if he actually started rounding up Mexicans and shooting them, there would still be people saying "yeah but MAGA!" I frequently see Americans accusing Trump of making the US a laughing stock, but it isn't him thats doing that. Its the constant hystrionics surrounding the guy. IT even flows in the UK, with that tosser Jeremy Corbyn standing n the stage at Glastonbury moaning about Trump building a wall. Thats right Jeremy, don't moan about Pakistan sentencing a guy to death for blasphemy. Or North Korea for pushing the World closer to war. You jump on what matters. No matter how much you wish for it, no manner of opposite lunacy can mitigate the great bark-bawling crazy that is Trump. One or any number of idiots doesn't cancel out the supreme caricature of a caricature that currently heads the U.S. And sorry, sensible people will never drop everything else for one or two hot items, regardless of how often they're used to try to bury. People can and do consider multiple issues, their urgency and their impact, simultaneously.
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Post by gadreel on Aug 2, 2017 16:38:18 GMT
To be fair, most successful businessmen, at least those that go into business for themselves, fail at some point, my experience with the entrepreneurs that I know is two or three business failures before they end up with something that sticks. Trump had something that stuck (he inherited a successful business from his father) and lost it all due to bad decisions. He didn't even bounce back himself, he was bailed out by the government. Fair point, honestly I don't really know a lot of Trumps backstory, but failure is pretty common in the business world I think. I think I read somewhere that if trump had just invested the money he got when he was young in stocks he would have twice as much as he does now. |
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 2, 2017 16:46:17 GMT
Trump had something that stuck (he inherited a successful business from his father) and lost it all due to bad decisions. He didn't even bounce back himself, he was bailed out by the government. Fair point, honestly I don't really know a lot of Trumps backstory, but failure is pretty common in the business world I think. I think I read somewhere that if trump had just invested the money he got when he was young in stocks he would have twice as much as he does now. Wouldn't surprise me.
I'm not saying trump is a terrible businessman by any means but he's nowt special. He just had a lot more to start with than most.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 2, 2017 16:50:33 GMT
Fair point, honestly I don't really know a lot of Trumps backstory, but failure is pretty common in the business world I think. I think I read somewhere that if trump had just invested the money he got when he was young in stocks he would have twice as much as he does now. Wouldn't surprise me.
I'm not saying trump is a terrible businessman by any means but he's nowt special. He just had a lot more to start with than most.
I once heard that the best way to become a millionaire is the way Donald Trump did it; Start out as a billionaire, and work your way down. |
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Post by gadreel on Aug 2, 2017 16:50:55 GMT
Fair point, honestly I don't really know a lot of Trumps backstory, but failure is pretty common in the business world I think. I think I read somewhere that if trump had just invested the money he got when he was young in stocks he would have twice as much as he does now. Wouldn't surprise me.
I'm not saying trump is a terrible businessman by any means but he's nowt special. He just had a lot more to start with than most.
Absolutely agree, and actually now that i think about it more, all the people I am thinking of started with pretty much nothing. |
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 2, 2017 17:07:32 GMT
PC/SJW culture indicated a culture ripe for cults long before Trump made any political aspirations public. Nothing says cult quite like thinking people should be judged on their actions not their religious beliefs, skin color, gender identity, or sexual identity. Yep. Cults are well known for not being hostile to outsiders. being white, particularly male, is practically a crime to SJWs and liberals judge religious people (mostly Christian variety) all the time. |
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 2, 2017 17:08:57 GMT
This isn't anything new. Politics, like religion, does something to people to make them rabid and irrational.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 2, 2017 17:12:40 GMT
I think that's his point, man. Cults want adherents. If anything, the far left is mired in am "ideological purity" litmus test of sorts. Not to say I think that's a positive... It seemed sarcastic to me. I'm not sure it's a good measurement either way. You could certainly say the alt-right crowd is hostile to outsiders that don't share their values. Scientology, on the other hand, will take all comers. An insular nature isn't necessarily cultish. |
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Aug 2, 2017 17:19:37 GMT
Yeah, the 3D chess one is especially funny. Yeah, he's only behaving like an obnoxious boorish 10 year old because it's all part of his master plan...lol.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 2, 2017 17:22:58 GMT
It seemed sarcastic to me. I'm not sure it's a good measurement either way. You could certainly say the alt-right crowd is hostile to outsiders that don't share their values. Scientology, on the other hand, will take all comers. An insular nature isn't necessarily cultish. That's garbage. You say the "alt-right" crowd is hostile to outsiders who don't share their values. And the "LGBT" community isn't? What a load. And if you want to join Scientology, you'd better bring a big wallet full of money. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 2, 2017 17:29:55 GMT
I'm not sure it's a good measurement either way. You could certainly say the alt-right crowd is hostile to outsiders that don't share their values. Scientology, on the other hand, will take all comers. An insular nature isn't necessarily cultish. That's garbage. You say the "alt-right" crowd is hostile to outsiders who don't share their values. And the "LGBT" community isn't? What a load. I literally just typed, above, that the left is mired in a "purity test" and noted it was hostile to outsiders. Yet again, you're addressing imagined censure. LGBT is a weird subsection to grasp at, though. I wouldn't expect someone to be welcoming to me if I opposed their right to marry the individual they loved or used their labels as slurs on par with "n**ger". |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 2, 2017 17:31:21 GMT
This isn't anything new. Politics, like religion, does something to people to make them rabid and irrational. To what administration would you compare what I'm describing? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 2, 2017 17:32:52 GMT
That's garbage. You say the "alt-right" crowd is hostile to outsiders who don't share their values. And the "LGBT" community isn't? What a load. I literally just typed, above, that the left is mired in a "purity test" and noted it was hostile to outsiders. Yet again, you're addressing imagined censure. LGBT is a weird subsection to grasp at, though. I wouldn't expect someone to be welcoming to me if I opposed their right to marry the individual they loved or used their labels as slurs on par with "n**ger". One more time.......HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A RACE. I'm not angry. I just used all caps in the hope that you might see it better. |
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 2, 2017 17:47:17 GMT
This isn't anything new. Politics, like religion, does something to people to make them rabid and irrational. To what administration would you compare what I'm describing? Administration it's followers? Because I would say that both Republican politicians and voters generally, not always, both tend to be rabid ideologues. They care about their beliefs, not the truth. When it comes to the left, I would say that there are more rational politicians than there are voters. Clinton was a moderate, but the average liberal? Nutty as all hell. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 2, 2017 17:57:17 GMT
Why argue with things no one has said?
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 2, 2017 18:00:07 GMT
To what administration would you compare what I'm describing? Administration it's followers? No, which administration? The level of blatant bungling, abandonment or even betrayal of key campaign promises, lie after lie (Trump: "The boy scouts called to praise my speech!" Boy Scouts: "No. No we didn't.") Outside of some of the early 1800s, I can't think of an administration that's required this level of blind praise in order to remain a supporter. |
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