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Post by shadyvsesham on Aug 3, 2017 21:04:20 GMT
You know them, the guys that seem they got all the talent, but dont make it. Wrong place, wrong time, crap gimmick, etc.
Terry Taylor aka Red Rooster - Jesus this was bad. You got a guy clucking down the ring, what a $hit show.
Skinner/Repo Man - A low card guy, neither really went anywhere.
Mo from MOM - We all know Mabel, won KOTR, did his Viscera gimmick, but what about poor Mo? He got to be eliminated ASAP Bushwhacker style but never did jack after Men on a Mission.
Bushwhackers - A Fun team, who if you see their indy stuff youd go,"this was the Bushwhackers?" Sadly in the WWE they were the "job" team. Natural Disasters going on a run, lets have Bushwhackers job to them.
Beverly Bros, lets have Bushwhackers job to them.
I mean I knew at that one Survivor Series, 1991, when it was Bushwhackers & Rockers Vs Nasty Boys & Beverly Bros I said,"The Rockers are screwed."
And right away it was 4 on 2. I mean it did end up 3 on 2, but we all know what happened. Bushwhackers just seem to be that 'jobber' team.
Savio Vega - I never saw what anyone saw in the guy. Him replacing Shawn Michaels at No Way Out, man, talk about deflating a balloon. It was in Houston too, hell it was a 4 on 4 match
Ahmed Johnson - He came in with ll the hype, debuting at Survivor Series on Michaels/Bulldog/Sids team. Looked like he could have been the next "big" star, while he isnt a "massive" failure, he never went to heights I think people expected him too.
Adam Bomb - A Mid card jobber at best.
Justin Credible - The "Member" of the Kliq who never really got big. Nash/Hall/Shawn/HHH...I mean they all had good runs. Razor was a great IC title and the other 3 guys all got the WWE gold. I mean even the 123 Kid/XPac/Syxx did some things. Justin...he never really went anywhere. His best time was in ECW.
Tazz - Was the man in ECW. Came in beating Kurt Angle! After that.....what did he do?
Lance Storm - I really think he could have been a top mid carder, sadly, no Mic Skills. I was shocked Jericho didnt lead the UNAmericans in Test/Christian/Lance. Storm was one of those "lost in the shuffle" guys.
Bart Gunn - Billy Gunn went on to DX, NaO, had a small singles run, did pretty well.
Bart? Did Brawl For All, won, got knocked out by Butterbean and never did much else.
Disco Inferno/Alex Wright - These guys always were stuck on the low end of the card.
Maven - If you watched TE the kid seemed like he had some mic skills, but he just never seem to really learn new moves. His moveset seemed so amateurish. I mean his big moments were (- winning Tough Enough)
eliminating the UT and getting his @$$ whipped.
Losing to HHH in a title match (And maybe his best match he ever had).
OK Im gonna stop, I can probably write a book, but I need to leave room for some other folks. There are so many!
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Post by Nike316 on Aug 3, 2017 21:23:46 GMT
Sheamus & Cesaro(even though they're the tag team champions), Dolph Ziggler, and Sami Zayn are all examples of this happening right now.
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Post by Jayman on Aug 3, 2017 22:17:39 GMT
You know them, the guys that seem they got all the talent, but dont make it. Wrong place, wrong time, crap gimmick, etc.
Terry Taylor aka Red Rooster - Jesus this was bad. You got a guy clucking down the ring, what a $hit show. Skinner/Repo Man - A low card guy, neither really went anywhere. Mo from MOM - We all know Mabel, won KOTR, did his Viscera gimmick, but what about poor Mo? He got to be eliminated ASAP Bushwhacker style but never did jack after Men on a Mission. Bushwhackers - A Fun team, who if you see their indy stuff youd go,"this was the Bushwhackers?" Sadly in the WWE they were the "job" team. Natural Disasters going on a run, lets have Bushwhackers job to them. Beverly Bros, lets have Bushwhackers job to them. I mean I knew at that one Survivor Series, 1991, when it was Bushwhackers & Rockers Vs Nasty Boys & Beverly Bros I said,"The Rockers are screwed." And right away it was 4 on 2. I mean it did end up 3 on 2, but we all know what happened. Bushwhackers just seem to be that 'jobber' team. Savio Vega - I never saw what anyone saw in the guy. Him replacing Shawn Michaels at No Way Out, man, talk about deflating a balloon. It was in Houston too, hell it was a 4 on 4 match Ahmed Johnson - He came in with ll the hype, debuting at Survivor Series on Michaels/Bulldog/Sids team. Looked like he could have been the next "big" star, while he isnt a "massive" failure, he never went to heights I think people expected him too. Adam Bomb - A Mid card jobber at best. Justin Credible - The "Member" of the Kliq who never really got big. Nash/Hall/Shawn/HHH...I mean they all had good runs. Razor was a great IC title and the other 3 guys all got the WWE gold. I mean even the 123 Kid/XPac/Syxx did some things. Justin...he never really went anywhere. His best time was in ECW. Tazz - Was the man in ECW. Came in beating Kurt Angle! After that.....what did he do? Lance Storm - I really think he could have been a top mid carder, sadly, no Mic Skills. I was shocked Jericho didnt lead the UNAmericans in Test/Christian/Lance. Storm was one of those "lost in the shuffle" guys. Bart Gunn - Billy Gunn went on to DX, NaO, had a small singles run, did pretty well. Bart? Did Brawl For All, won, got knocked out by Butterbean and never did much else. Disco Inferno/Alex Wright - These guys always were stuck on the low end of the card. Maven - If you watched TE the kid seemed like he had some mic skills, but he just never seem to really learn new moves. His moveset seemed so amateurish. I mean his big moments were (- winning Tough Enough) eliminating the UT and getting his @$$ whipped. Losing to HHH in a title match (And maybe his best match he ever had). OK Im gonna stop, I can probably write a book, but I need to leave room for some other folks. There are so many! Most of those guys you mention did get over in other places, it's just the WWF has a history of killing careers with their stupid crap. |
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Post by shadyvsesham on Aug 3, 2017 22:27:13 GMT
You know them, the guys that seem they got all the talent, but dont make it. Wrong place, wrong time, crap gimmick, etc.
Terry Taylor aka Red Rooster - Jesus this was bad. You got a guy clucking down the ring, what a $hit show. Skinner/Repo Man - A low card guy, neither really went anywhere. Mo from MOM - We all know Mabel, won KOTR, did his Viscera gimmick, but what about poor Mo? He got to be eliminated ASAP Bushwhacker style but never did jack after Men on a Mission. Bushwhackers - A Fun team, who if you see their indy stuff youd go,"this was the Bushwhackers?" Sadly in the WWE they were the "job" team. Natural Disasters going on a run, lets have Bushwhackers job to them. Beverly Bros, lets have Bushwhackers job to them. I mean I knew at that one Survivor Series, 1991, when it was Bushwhackers & Rockers Vs Nasty Boys & Beverly Bros I said,"The Rockers are screwed." And right away it was 4 on 2. I mean it did end up 3 on 2, but we all know what happened. Bushwhackers just seem to be that 'jobber' team. Savio Vega - I never saw what anyone saw in the guy. Him replacing Shawn Michaels at No Way Out, man, talk about deflating a balloon. It was in Houston too, hell it was a 4 on 4 match Ahmed Johnson - He came in with ll the hype, debuting at Survivor Series on Michaels/Bulldog/Sids team. Looked like he could have been the next "big" star, while he isnt a "massive" failure, he never went to heights I think people expected him too. Adam Bomb - A Mid card jobber at best. Justin Credible - The "Member" of the Kliq who never really got big. Nash/Hall/Shawn/HHH...I mean they all had good runs. Razor was a great IC title and the other 3 guys all got the WWE gold. I mean even the 123 Kid/XPac/Syxx did some things. Justin...he never really went anywhere. His best time was in ECW. Tazz - Was the man in ECW. Came in beating Kurt Angle! After that.....what did he do? Lance Storm - I really think he could have been a top mid carder, sadly, no Mic Skills. I was shocked Jericho didnt lead the UNAmericans in Test/Christian/Lance. Storm was one of those "lost in the shuffle" guys. Bart Gunn - Billy Gunn went on to DX, NaO, had a small singles run, did pretty well. Bart? Did Brawl For All, won, got knocked out by Butterbean and never did much else. Disco Inferno/Alex Wright - These guys always were stuck on the low end of the card. Maven - If you watched TE the kid seemed like he had some mic skills, but he just never seem to really learn new moves. His moveset seemed so amateurish. I mean his big moments were (- winning Tough Enough) eliminating the UT and getting his @$$ whipped. Losing to HHH in a title match (And maybe his best match he ever had). OK Im gonna stop, I can probably write a book, but I need to leave room for some other folks. There are so many! Most of those guys you mention did get over in other places, it's just the WWF has a history of killing careers with their stupid crap. No doubt, like I even said with the Bushwhackers, you see their stuff they did outside the WWF(e) youd be like wtf. So I was more talking about didnt make it in the "big" show. (No pun intended Paul Wight). The WWE/WcWs. I mean hell, the Repo Man we all knew (Well most) was Smash. I guess I more mean, who didnt make it in the "big time." Yea, WWF can def kill careers, hell WcW did it too. |
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Post by Jayman on Aug 3, 2017 22:49:51 GMT
Yeah the Sheepherders/bushwackers or whatever were historically one of the most brutal and violent teams out there. They did have a pretty good run for Crockett though after they bought out UWF. That was nationwide. But they were winding down once they got in the wwf. I guess that stuff gave them some more longevity. I think Barry Darsow had too many damn gimmicks throughout his career. He also had a really good run with Crockett with the Koloffs as one of the Russians. But after that it was just gimmick after gimmick. Which was stupid because everybody knew it was him either way. Terry Taylor was the guy that destroyed. He had a good career for years, and He came off a hot heel run from the UWF and World class and he was pretty over. Until he came to the WWF and they completely killed his career in less than a year.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 4, 2017 13:13:55 GMT
I have to ask: what do you mean by "make it"? If you mean winning championships, then I agree with The Bushwhackers.
If you mean being "over" over, then I gotta disagree. The Bushwhackers had a fairly good 8 year run in the WWF and were hugely popular with audiences. I was watching one of the early Royal Rumbles, and when the Bushwhackers came out for their tag match, their pop was one of the loudest of the night. Almost close to Hogan's.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Aug 4, 2017 17:51:38 GMT
OK, when I mean "Make it" Im talking guys who had a run, a decent run.
Lets look at the Bushwhackers.
1990 Survivor Series - Nikolas team destroys slaughters team, making it 1 on 4. Slaughter eliminates Nikola and the Bushwhackers, look at how long it took:
4 Slaughter eliminates Nikoli @ 5:25
5 Slaughter eliminates Luke @ 6:30
6 Slaughter eliminates Butch @ 6:53
So, Slaughter on his own beat not just Luke but Butch as well....not even within 30 seconds!? (23 seconds actually). That's insanity, that's jobber status.
Whenever a new tag team came in, Bushwhackers just seemed to be fed to them. I liked them, but they never got close to a title run.
Look at the Sheephearders like Jahyn said, team was fn brutal. I guess it gave them longevity, but they never got a decent run.
SO I guess I mean guys who just never had a good legit run, it can mean a lot of things, it's all objective tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 20:36:38 GMT
didn't ahmed johnson get incredibly over in WWF?
won't talk about past accolades of the others - as you've already stated you're talking about in WWF.
i thought it was johnson's injuries that got the best of him (or was it substance abuse?)
guy was a beast in WWF. just remember when he showed up in WCW looking fat and old it was such a huge disappointment
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 7, 2017 13:09:29 GMT
Ahmed was hugely over. His pops at times rivaled Stone Cold's. But it was definitely his injuries that got the better of him. Every injury resulted in smaller and smaller crowd reactions.
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Post by Jayman on Aug 7, 2017 17:08:15 GMT
I liked him as Moadib in GWF. He did some crazy stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 17:58:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:26:28 GMT
I would have always liked to see Shane Douglas come back as his ECW character and rip on that Dean Douglas character he had.
He was great in ECW.
Great promos. There's an awesome clip on Youtube of HBK ripping on him for just dropping 'F' bombs in his promos. The Kliq apparently hated for for complaining about a bad back overseas and not working Madison Square Garden as well.
I thought Shane in ECW was great.
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Post by Jayman on Aug 7, 2017 20:58:44 GMT
I was a huge fan of Shane from the '93-'99 period. That was when I was going to a lot of the shows.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 21:02:59 GMT
I was a huge fan of Shane from the '93-'99 period. That was when I was going to a lot of the shows. he had 'it'. i get hated on for loving douglas and jarrett - so be it - i think two promotions outside of WWF(E) showed you can run with them as top dogs. people love to hate on the WCW Russo years with Jarrett on top - it was highly entertaining and to this day - i'd rather youtube that stuff then watch today's product. |
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Post by Jayman on Aug 7, 2017 21:22:31 GMT
Yeah he was the hottest thing at that point. Once he came in wcw again I thought he was a little too over the top, but he still had good matches. I always liked Jeff Jarret though. I think that company was kind of a mess at that time, but Jeff was always very good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 13:06:35 GMT
Some that come to mind 
Austin Aries (WWE wasted him in the Cruiserweight Division. He was a main eventer and former TNA World Heavyweight Champion who wrestled high profile matches with AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Jeff Hardy, Bobby Roode, James Storm, Bully Ray, Bobby Lashley etc and instead of putting him in the main event like they did with AJ Styles and Samoa Joe they put him down in the Cruiserweight Division and had him lose multiple matches to Neville of all people. I wasn't surprised he left)
Diamond Dallas Page (Another wrestler who was huge in another company but never got over 'cause of WWE. Like him or not DDP was one of the biggest names in WCW in the 90s and should have been turned face during the Invasion angle like Rob Van Dam was and feuded with Steve Austin for the WWF Championship but instead they gave him an awful stalker gimmick and then made him a comedy wrestler)
Scott Steiner. (Same as the above but this one might have had something to do with his attitude backstage. Nonetheless Scott Steiner was huge in WCW and beat a lot of the biggest names in the company but never reached the same heights in WWE 'cause of poor booking and the angle with him, Test and Stacy was awful and was never going to get him back up the top.)
James Storm (Could still come back to WWE and hoping he does so we can have Beer Money together and feuding with each other again. James Storm is the last big TNA star WWE don't have apart from Abyss and Christopher Daniels.)
Tiffany (This one is kinda funny. In WWE Taryn Terrell was like Kelly Kelly 2 when they finally let her wrestle after being the General Manager on the revamped version of ECW and her matches were awful and went for 2-3 minutes each but then Taryn goes to TNA and after being a referee for a while they let her wrestle and she not only proved she could wrestle but she was pretty awesome in the ring and put on some of the best TNA Knockout matches of all time with Gail Kim in their Last Knockout Standing match and Ladder match. Looking at how much the Women's division has improved in WWE over the last few years WWE should give her another shot.)
Gail Kim (The most wasted female wrestler in WWE history. Gail was a victim of the 'Diva' era in WWE with their crappy 2-3 minute matches and I wasn't surprised when she walked out of the company over it but now things have changed it would be awesome to see Gail have one last run in WWE)
Serena Deeb (poorly used as part of the Straight Edge Society and could have gone over better on her own.)
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Post by MooseNugget on Sept 3, 2017 16:30:03 GMT
I think Caprice Coleman should have been way more over than he was during C & C Wrestle Factory's run in ROH. I always felt he's underrated by fans.
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