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Post by Archelaus on Aug 7, 2017 16:19:12 GMT
Of course, they are. They paid Terrence Howard the most in Iron Man and then asked him to take a salary cut for the sequel. His other white co-stars weren't asked to do the same. They made Mordo a BLACK man who will practice BLACK magic in the sequel. Black Panther's main villain is going to be a white man in AFRICA. Jaiying, a Chinese Inhuman in Agents of SHIELD, is the most racist depiction of a Chinese native I have ever seen in my life. You're an idiot. I was using sarcasm. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 7, 2017 16:57:19 GMT
the DCEU is a million times more racist for having Cyborg as the only major black character by the time of the Justice League's creation. The MCU had Nick Fury, Rhodey, and Heimdall by the time The Avengers was released General (later Secretary of Defense) Swanwick Perry White Deadshot Amanda Waller You were saying? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 7, 2017 17:00:45 GMT
Actually, they have way more than two black characters. Nick Fury, Sam Wilson, Heimdall, Mordo, and that's the movies. Only the DCEU is failing with diversity. General (and later Defense Secretary) Swanwick Perry White Deadshot Amanda Waller Only YOU are failing with your pathetic BS to try to discredit the DCEU. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 7, 2017 17:01:00 GMT
No, because they have Black Panther, Black Iron Man, Black Falcon, Black Widow, Black Cat and Jack Black.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 7, 2017 17:16:34 GMT
He's an idiot. No sarcasm. POE's law applies. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 22:13:35 GMT
Sarcasm doesn't work on the internet, but I am sorry for misinterpreting you. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Aug 8, 2017 0:21:32 GMT
They whitewashed Mandarin and Ancient one In a way they are racist for not using Miles Morales,they have his best Pal and Uncle in Homecoming,why not all the way? The nonwhite characters are extras in Homecoming just with the name of comic book characters. There were nonwhite extras in the last two series. So much for the diversity Marvel claimed it achieved😂😂😂😂😂😂 The Mandarin wasn't actually in Iron Man 3, that was an AIM created decoy influenced by the myth of the original founder of the Ten Rings organization. The role of "The Ancient One" is a title passed down from person to person in the MCU, had they kept the literal Ancient One from the books it would've done more harm than good when trying to appeal to international audiences. Miles Morales has not proven to be successful with movie goers, general audiences associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker first and foremost. Splicing two different characters from the source material is not uncommon, even for the MCU - they blended Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo together in IM2. Your responses about The Anicent one and Mandarin are what people say when defend whitewashing its dishonest Most of these Heroes in the MCU have not proven themselves but were given a chance and suceeeded. Also they didn't blend two characters they straight stole from Miles Morales,Its dishonest using Peter when it makes more sense to use Miles. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 0:28:07 GMT
The Mandarin wasn't actually in Iron Man 3, that was an AIM created decoy influenced by the myth of the original founder of the Ten Rings organization. The role of "The Ancient One" is a title passed down from person to person in the MCU, had they kept the literal Ancient One from the books it would've done more harm than good when trying to appeal to international audiences. Miles Morales has not proven to be successful with movie goers, general audiences associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker first and foremost. Splicing two different characters from the source material is not uncommon, even for the MCU - they blended Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo together in IM2. Your responses about The Anicent one and Mandarin are what people say when defend whitewashing its dishonest Most of these Heroes in the MCU have not proven themselves but were given a chance and suceeeded. Also they didn't blend two characters they straight stole from Miles Morales,Its dishonest using Peter when it makes more sense to use Miles. Oh, give it up. We know you're just a troll. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Aug 8, 2017 0:31:24 GMT
Your responses about The Anicent one and Mandarin are what people say when defend whitewashing its dishonest Most of these Heroes in the MCU have not proven themselves but were given a chance and suceeeded. Also they didn't blend two characters they straight stole from Miles Morales,Its dishonest using Peter when it makes more sense to use Miles. Oh, give it up. We know you're just a troll. You might be a racist in deniql 😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 0:33:33 GMT
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Post by thenewnexus on Aug 8, 2017 0:36:57 GMT
Now you are ignoring the truth
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 8, 2017 0:59:20 GMT
The Mandarin wasn't actually in Iron Man 3, that was an AIM created decoy influenced by the myth of the original founder of the Ten Rings organization. The role of "The Ancient One" is a title passed down from person to person in the MCU, had they kept the literal Ancient One from the books it would've done more harm than good when trying to appeal to international audiences. Miles Morales has not proven to be successful with movie goers, general audiences associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker first and foremost. Splicing two different characters from the source material is not uncommon, even for the MCU - they blended Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo together in IM2. Your responses about The Anicent one and Mandarin are what people say when defend whitewashing its dishonest Most of these Heroes in the MCU have not proven themselves but were given a chance and suceeeded. Also they didn't blend two characters they straight stole from Miles Morales,Its dishonest using Peter when it makes more sense to use Miles. Well I'm not one of those people I'm stating truths - The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 was NOT the real Mandarin, he was a fake created by AIM to manipulate mass media who was influenced by the mythical true founder of The Ten Rings. All Hail The King clarifies that the actual Mandarin is still out there and The Ten Rings is still active, hiding in the shadows. If keeping The Ancient One the same as they were in the original books was easy to do and wouldn't have sparked any sort of controversy why was it such a problem figuring out how to depict them on screen? The character as generally depicted in the books of yesteryear is a very dated stereotype, why bother the risk? Most people associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker, its the same as how most people associate Batman with Bruce Wayne - Using Miles would not had been a wise business decision to make as the only way to do the character right on screen would've been to have Peter Parker be active as Spidey for years, that has definitely not happened yet and the seeds for Miles were already planted in Homecoming with the introduction of his uncle. You cannot steal from somebody if you are the creators, Marvel has the right to blend and swap different elements from various stories and mold them into a new narrative with newer versions of existing characters. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 8, 2017 1:04:02 GMT
the DCEU is a million times more racist for having Cyborg as the only major black character by the time of the Justice League's creation. The MCU had Nick Fury, Rhodey, and Heimdall by the time The Avengers was released General (later Secretary of Defense) Swanwick Perry White Deadshot Amanda Waller You were saying? Neither of these characters are superheroes. Deadshot is a bad guy. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 8, 2017 1:37:46 GMT
General (later Secretary of Defense) Swanwick Perry White Deadshot Amanda Waller You were saying? Neither of these characters are superheroes. Neither are Nick Fury or Heimdall. So it's really only Black Panther and Luke Cage (who isn't even in the movies) vs Cyborg. That's 1 guy in the movies and 1 guy in TV vs 1 guy in the movies. That hardly counts as being more diverse. So is Mordo. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 8, 2017 1:39:05 GMT
thenewnexus said you're a troll and told you to give up your trolling. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 8, 2017 2:11:36 GMT
Neither of these characters are superheroes. Neither are Nick Fury or Heimdall. So it's really only Black Panther and Luke Cage (who isn't even in the movies) vs Cyborg. That's 1 guy in the movies and 1 guy in TV vs 1 guy in the movies. That hardly counts as being more diverse. So is Mordo. Nick Fury qualifies as a superhero, so does Heimdall. Mordo didn't start out as a bad guy in his introduction, and his motivations are not fueled by greed and a thrill to harm others. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 8, 2017 3:27:27 GMT
Neither are Nick Fury or Heimdall. So it's really only Black Panther and Luke Cage (who isn't even in the movies) vs Cyborg. That's 1 guy in the movies and 1 guy in TV vs 1 guy in the movies. That hardly counts as being more diverse. So is Mordo. Nick Fury qualifies as a superhero, so does Heimdall. Nick Fury and Heimdall are no more superheroes than Alfred or Commissioner Gordon or Etta Candy. If you're going to call Nick Fury and Heimdall superheroes, then you also have to call Alfred and Commissioner Gordon and Etta Candy superheroes. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Aug 8, 2017 3:54:36 GMT
Your responses about The Anicent one and Mandarin are what people say when defend whitewashing its dishonest Most of these Heroes in the MCU have not proven themselves but were given a chance and suceeeded. Also they didn't blend two characters they straight stole from Miles Morales,Its dishonest using Peter when it makes more sense to use Miles. Well I'm not one of those people I'm stating truths - The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 was NOT the real Mandarin, he was a fake created by AIM to manipulate mass media who was influenced by the mythical true founder of The Ten Rings. All Hail The King clarifies that the actual Mandarin is still out there and The Ten Rings is still active, hiding in the shadows. If keeping The Ancient One the same as they were in the original books was easy to do and wouldn't have sparked any sort of controversy why was it such a problem figuring out how to depict them on screen? The character as generally depicted in the books of yesteryear is a very dated stereotype, why bother the risk? Most people associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker, its the same as how most people associate Batman with Bruce Wayne - Using Miles would not had been a wise business decision to make as the only way to do the character right on screen would've been to have Peter Parker be active as Spidey for years, that has definitely not happened yet and the seeds for Miles were already planted in Homecoming with the introduction of his uncle. You cannot steal from somebody if you are the creators, Marvel has the right to blend and swap different elements from various stories and mold them into a new narrative with newer versions of existing characters. All Hail the King was a way for Marvel to cover their asses,an Asian actor was screwed out of a role same thing with Anicent one. Thats Dishonest to use Miles Pal and Uncle and not him. Marvel ate their words when they said they were going to be about Diversity but all the nonwhite actors are pretty much extras like in the last two series and there is littke nods to Miles,but hes not there thats just. sad |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 8, 2017 4:25:36 GMT
Nick Fury qualifies as a superhero, so does Heimdall. Nick Fury and Heimdall are no more superheroes than Alfred or Commissioner Gordon or Etta Candy. If you're going to call Nick Fury and Heimdall superheroes, then you also have to call Alfred and Commissioner Gordon and Etta Candy superheroes. Heimdall is the gatekeeper of the Bifrost bridge, in addition to being a top tier warrior in battle his ability to see and hear is almost unlimited. He makes sure Asgard is not in danger and his horn signals its inhabitants to get battle-ready. Nick Fury has enough ability as a soldier, fighter, and spy as well as having a slow aging rate that he can stand toe to toe with a good number of other Marvel characters, they qualify much more as superheroes than Alfred and Etta. I'll give you Godon though, seeing as he did take the mantle of Batman for a little while, although he had help from using a mech suit. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 8, 2017 4:42:51 GMT
Well I'm not one of those people I'm stating truths - The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 was NOT the real Mandarin, he was a fake created by AIM to manipulate mass media who was influenced by the mythical true founder of The Ten Rings. All Hail The King clarifies that the actual Mandarin is still out there and The Ten Rings is still active, hiding in the shadows. If keeping The Ancient One the same as they were in the original books was easy to do and wouldn't have sparked any sort of controversy why was it such a problem figuring out how to depict them on screen? The character as generally depicted in the books of yesteryear is a very dated stereotype, why bother the risk? Most people associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker, its the same as how most people associate Batman with Bruce Wayne - Using Miles would not had been a wise business decision to make as the only way to do the character right on screen would've been to have Peter Parker be active as Spidey for years, that has definitely not happened yet and the seeds for Miles were already planted in Homecoming with the introduction of his uncle. You cannot steal from somebody if you are the creators, Marvel has the right to blend and swap different elements from various stories and mold them into a new narrative with newer versions of existing characters. All Hail the King was a way for Marvel to cover their asses,an Asian actor was screwed out of a role same thing with Anicent one. Thats Dishonest to use Miles Pal and Uncle and not him. Marvel ate their words when they said they were going to be about Diversity but all the nonwhite actors are pretty much extras like in the last two series and there is littke nods to Miles,but hes not there thats just. sad Doesn't matter what the reason was to create AHTK, what happened in its narrative is canon with the overall MCU, and that is this - The Mandarin is a real figure, has been around for a very long time and has legions of worshipers in the form of The Ten Rings...And he is not happy at how Trevor and AIM used his name in the events of IM3. You haven't answered my question about The Ancient One - the character is not generally viewed positively in their portrayal in the majority of the stories using them, bringing them to the screen would not be anywhere as easy as you make it sound like. The Ancient One is an extremely dated stereotype that would not go very well with international audiences, hence they decided to change it and the movie worked in the end so they accomplished all that they needed to set out to do. The Mandarin is also not a positive stereotype throughout his publication history, why do you think various writers and artists have rebooted the character every couple of years? And it was never really down for narrative purposes, it was all a business venture to present the character differently and wash away the bad taste of their previous portrayals in the books. But again, The Mandarin( the real deal) was not in IM3. It's called set-up, they've established Prowler in the MCU and given that the MCU has no end date and they intend to use Peter as long as they see fit and if interest goes down for Parker but there is desire for a different Spider-Man then they can bring in Miles. Marvel has shown plenty of diversity in their movies and television shows and you know it. |
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